Audi TT 225
Don't think you get the point "We would all buy the RS500 if we had the £££". If you need to save the 7k you don't have the money. lolz.
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Focus RS500 vs. Clio 200 Cup [Brown Bear will appreciate this]
Don't think you get the point "We would all buy the RS500 if we had the £££". If you need to save the 7k you don't have the money. lolz.
Golf GTD Mk7
You having a laugh?
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
No. Similar size, but one doesn't have the added weight and losses of a 4wd system. He said rolling, so traction isn't an issue.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Nonsense. Utter garbage. So now we can't compare 2 hot hatches because of the price difference? So can we not compare a 911turbo with a gallardo? Or a 458?
I think you kids are forgetting that comparing, and considering buying both are 2 different things.
And as in all these situations, the driver makes all the difference. Crap driver in a FRS will be slower than someone with any talent in a 200, 172 etc etc.
Its only worth comparing if its actually close in specs and performance........the RS500 has atleast twice the torque of the 200, this is the true measure of power, BHP is just a made up figure. For instance, all dyno's measure torque, then approximate BHP at the fly / wheels.....BHP is BS, torque is what you can actually measure.
Its like comparing a EVO to a scobby, thats a good comparison.........but a GTR to a 360 EVO....you could, but whats the point.
Evo 5 RS
And my point is no, we all wouldn't. I don't need to save 7k as much as I'd prefer to instead of spunking it on novelty
Golf GTD Mk7
Surely the RS would spin up quite a bit though. Top end it would be quicker no doubt. Not sure on the weight though.
Evo 5 RS
I think he mentioned it being torque limited in 1st and 2nd on the RS500? Not sure if it's the same deal on the norm mk2
Might aswell buy a Clio 172 cup over a 200cup then.......
FN2 Type R +MK6 Golf
Evo 5 RS
Mk2 ph1 or no mk2 at all for me, sorry. Thanks for the insight though lol, I never saw the 200 as a novelty until now
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Of course they can be compared! Why? Because people who are genuinely interested in cars, want to see it. I would say an exige can be compared to a gt3. A gt3 to a scuderia. Price, bhp means nothing in the equation.
182cup & 172 racecar
The Clio is slower because he gets out and changes his shirt to a white one half way through.
PMSL at some of this. Good stuff
Two things that I'd like to add. Firstly, the RS500 will not be 'spinning up' anywhere. It's proper quick. M3/Z4M/Evo quick. IF that's your bag. Secondly, and probably more importantly in the ownership proposition, is that if you do a lot of motorway miles, the RS is a LOT better at doing that for sure?
The value for money aspect can be discussed all day long and reach no conclusion because it's personal preference. You can also buy something cheaper than the Clio that's 'faster' than both, so that's a moot point. The aim of the vid is to show how both cars are enjoyable but in slightly different ways. Both very capable and stronger in different areas than the other. The joy of driving if you will. You'd expect most people on a car forum to understand that but unfortunately, as always, the measure of a car on CS seems to be how fast someone else can get a car around a track. The 200 is doubtless an amazing car, but I promise with 100% certainty that no one would get out of an RS500 using words like, "needs 4WD", or "it's a bus".
Two things that I'd like to add. Firstly, the RS500 will not be 'spinning up' anywhere. It's proper quick. M3/Z4M/Evo quick. IF that's your bag. Secondly, and probably more importantly in the ownership proposition, is that if you do a lot of motorway miles, the RS is a LOT better at doing that for sure?
The value for money aspect can be discussed all day long and reach no conclusion because it's personal preference. You can also buy something cheaper than the Clio that's 'faster' than both, so that's a moot point. The aim of the vid is to show how both cars are enjoyable but in slightly different ways. Both very capable and stronger in different areas than the other. The joy of driving if you will. You'd expect most people on a car forum to understand that but unfortunately, as always, the measure of a car on CS seems to be how fast someone else can get a car around a track. The 200 is doubtless an amazing car, but I promise with 100% certainty that no one would get out of an RS500 using words like, "needs 4WD", or "it's a bus".
Fiesta ST Stage 3
I have to agree with this .
On a side note Roy how does your one compare with the RS500 ???
On a side note Roy how does your one compare with the RS500 ???
PMSL at some of this. Good stuff
Two things that I'd like to add. Firstly, the RS500 will not be 'spinning up' anywhere. It's proper quick. M3/Z4M/Evo quick. IF that's your bag. Secondly, and probably more importantly in the ownership proposition, is that if you do a lot of motorway miles, the RS is a LOT better at doing that for sure?
The value for money aspect can be discussed all day long and reach no conclusion because it's personal preference. You can also buy something cheaper than the Clio that's 'faster' than both, so that's a moot point. The aim of the vid is to show how both cars are enjoyable but in slightly different ways. Both very capable and stronger in different areas than the other. The joy of driving if you will. You'd expect most people on a car forum to understand that but unfortunately, as always, the measure of a car on CS seems to be how fast someone else can get a car around a track. The 200 is doubtless an amazing car, but I promise with 100% certainty that no one would get out of an RS500 using words like, "needs 4WD", or "it's a bus".
Fiesta ST Stage 3
It ain't just about the power though is it, as an overall car the evo is a more capable car.
Fiesta ST Stage 3
Very Nice what does that take the 0-100 time down to with the extra power & torque ? a std FRS is about 14.5 i think
182cup & 172 racecar
My comment was just an observation,I really don't give a toss.
182cup & 172 racecar
Ah,that will be it then.
Fiesta ST Stage 3
same as me but i do like to no what it can do . have been told after my live remap the 0-100 is around 13 ish so should be fun
FN2 Type R +MK6 Golf
I knew i'd seen it somewhere,Taken from evo roy...
Changes are mainly limited to the engine and trim. Power for the RS500 is increased by 44bhp over the standard RS and torque also rises to 339lb ft. An improved induction package is responsible for much of power gains. Modifications include a larger intercooler and improved airflow through air box as well as a larger diameter exhaust downpipe and uprated fuel pump. Changes to the ECU software allow the RS500 to retain the emissions and fuel consumption of the standard RS.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Exactly. Value is subjective!
ipodsandguns
ClioSport Club Member
GW X200 CUP
both great cars but for different folks of different strokes.
