Getting rid of power steering

[Timi]

thinking of going to manual steering as power steering pipe bust twice now. Ive heard the dci racks fit on, is this true?
What else is involved, is it change rack, remove pump, smaller belt?

 

[TimR26]

MarkCup has done it might be worth sending him a PM.

 

[cliosportcraig]

Do you want to keep the AC?

 

[Danmalone1999]

Forget manual steering if you want to drive fast, the clio racks arent quick enough in manual guise to be any use.

 

[Timi]

Got rid of the AC already

 

[Rob669]

MarkCup has done it might be worth sending him a PM.

I think Rentech did Mark's - not 100% certain.

 

[cliosportap]

you can also apply electric power steering

 

[SBV116]

lol, we did it for a customers track car, it is HORRID! my advice leave it alone!!!

 

[Fred@BTM]

^behave its mint! the dynacup runs no pas, its awesome (knackering, but awesome!)

 

[cliosportcraig]

You need these parts then put them on like this:

with a 5 rib belt to miss the cam covers, the brackets can be found on non PAS R5 1.7's, volvo 440/460 and 480's

You can also use the brackets that come on PAS volvos with slight modification to the bottom bracket to miss the subframe.

 

[cliosportcraig]

Keep the same rack, just fill it with grease and seal it up

Manual ones are slower

 

[SBV116]

^behave its mint! the dynacup runs no pas, its awesome (knackering, but awesome!)

It's terrible man!!!

 

[Fred@BTM]

man up you northern(ish) gayer!

 

[mini-valver]

You have got computer geek arms though kev.....


You need a good tator dinner lad!!!

 

[SBV116]

no, i need pas, and not vintage tractor like steering!! But i do have girl arms

Edit, WTF are tator's? Patato? if so yack.

 

[cliosportcraig]

It's terrible man!!!

Define terrible.

At driving speeds the lack of assistance is hardly noticeable it's only at parking speeds that you miss it. Especially when using the same rack.

 

[SBV116]

Define terrible.

At driving speeds the lack of assistance is hardly noticeable it's only at parking speeds that you miss it. Especially when using the same rack.

A lot worse than when it left the factory!:rasp:

 

[Nick172Cup]

Converted my Mk1 16v clio to manual steering, didnt see a massive difference in drivability and parking wasnt a problem either. It did only weigh 850kg so that probably made it easier for low speed turning. Made the car much more free revving doing the conversion, a definate worthwhile modification to do if its easy enough!

 

[rich_1989]

ha lol. wait till ben sees this thread, he was just asking me about if he should and i told him he will be fucked after driving work and back!
my bros mk2 golf gti has no pas and its lighter than the clio and its like driving a lorry in mud

 

[maynard]

what's the benefit of removing the pas?

 

[Fred@BTM]

its quicker innit!

 

[maynard]

what the steering/turn in lol?

 

[rich_1989]

if you have no PAS pulley for the aux belt to spin then ther is less strain on the belt, thus less strain on the engine thus>>> BWAAAAPPP

 

[SBV116]

what's the benefit of removing the pas?

You get big arms?!?!?!

 

[maynard]

You get big arms?!?!?!

may aswell do this to get some exercise then :rasp:

 

[Cooksport]

The hi-pressure power steering line has burst on my car, any way of quick fixing it, so i have no powersteering but leave it all in place?


Thanks

 

[sammyhale22]

I ran mine with no PAS pump attached(changed belt for shorter one) and it was very heavy, although i`ve heard that in relation the DCI rack is easier to manage than a PAS rack with no pump working!

 

[daddycool]

I ran mine with no PAS pump attached(changed belt for shorter one) and it was very heavy, although i`ve heard that in relation the DCI rack is easier to manage than a PAS rack with no pump working!

not too sure on that. got my dci rack up and running today and it feels just as heavy as broken pas

 

[sammyhale22]

Ah right, so pretty much the same then??
Suppose its the wide 16s that make it heavy.

 

[sammyhale22]

Just out of interest which pipes do you 'Loop' on the PAS rack if you want to disconnect the PAS pump? Is it the two pipes that go upto the Oil well? and does the car pass MOT if you remove the pump?

 

[word_easy]

I'm guessing you never want to sell the car then?

Buyer: There's no power steering?
Seller: Nope i took it out!
Buyer: Right... bye!

 

[Floodie]

Id like to have pas back in my vag cup but god knows if its possible - any ideas welcome

 

[Fred@BTM]

yeah, saxo or kangoo pump, bit of pipe work, done

 

[Silent_Scone]

I did away with the aircon on mine yonks ago but this I be not sure of

 

[Floodie]

yeah, saxo or kangoo pump, bit of pipe work, done

Cheers Freddy - Do you still "do wheels"?, might need the ones you did for me years ago re-doing again soon if you do chap.

ta

 

[sammyhale22]

I'm guessing you never want to sell the car then?

Buyer: There's no power steering?
Seller: Nope i took it out!
Buyer: Right... bye!

That didn`t even answer my question....thanks

 

[MATT BLACK]

Id like to have pas back in my vag cup but god knows if its possible - any ideas welcome

Find a donor clio with an elec PAS pump built onto the column ( no 13 )

I take it you have changed your rack when you removed the PAS system. If not it will be very hard to steer. I fitted a standard 1.2 Steering rack on my conversion and it was very easy to steer.

 

[daddycool]

that's starting to bother me now. when i changed my rack out for a dci/1.2 rack, it felt horrible, as hard to steer as broken power steering so i put the original rack back in. seen a few people now saying they've had no problems with the manual rack conversion. am i just weak?

 

[Hutchie]

manual rack in my car
can park with little finger

Spoiler

but i do have electric steering column, but on the plus side im sure im the only one to get it to work on aftermarket ecu

 

[word_easy]

That didn`t even answer my question....thanks

It wasn't meant to...thanks