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Golf VR6 race





lol dogmaul im sure tis a big conspiracy that every vw owner foesnt report faults.

sorry im a veedub owner thought id add my 2p while i pass through.

at the end of the day vws are renound for being very reliable for an old car (mk2 and mk1 etc), but the later models arnt holding up so much to that title.

cleos are nice cars and the 172 is quick so ive heared but they are a completely different type of car to my 16 jetta of a gold, golfs are squarer older and were made for a different market, for an old golf to keep up with a brand new engeneered car is quite a feat on engineering if you ask me.

the vr6 is known to be heavy especially on corners and wont handle as well as a clio, but was it built to? the answer is no the vr6 was built for the meetign people comfort and speed in one, a cleo was built to be really nippy and the 172 was built especially for being fast.

strip out a vr6 and stick it on coilovers you will have great handling ability and straight line speed will out run a clio its just physics.

there is the case that alot of vr6s have been ragged and therfore are not quite up to scratch with the newer engine dont know if this is true or not tho.

my 16v is quick enough for me got it last year when i was 18 and the nova boys couldnt keep up and i did beet a 306 xsi 2.0 but he might not have been the best driver in the world lol

half the people in vedubs started out in reaults anyway and i love that v6 mmmmmmm sucj i nice looking car. the only pug i dont like is the 106 cause they seem to be everywhere and nova boys are getting here hands on them

sorry fro the ramble there.
 


teady172 > So youd also rather have a 172 over a Golf VR6, Golf G60, Golf Rallye, Golf V6 4Motion? This is what i mean with you lot!

"VW havnt grasped the idea of flare yet" Where talking about a TEN year old car, tell me what Renault were offering TEN years ago? Not a lot!

Compare the MK4 interior to ANY renault, I think youll all prefer the golf!
 


http://www.golfnutter.freeserve.co.uk/vr6int2.jpgmake up your own mindhttp://www.clioclub.com



dead beat just trying to inject a bit of humor into this



its like tvrs are always supposed to break down but they dont all do it and they are getting better at it. dont get me wrong i like the vr6 as a car but it just does not do it for me and as for the 4 motion lol

what i like is the gti since it was first born it has more than doubled in weight and only gron by a few bhp all in all it just adds up to a very over weight under powered car give me a mk1 gti any day
 


the vr6 is meant for those german autobahns where everyone is like Huh let me past in my 3ltr, No let me past in my 4.5ltr. hehee
 


Quote: Originally posted by 2.8VRG on 25 February 2003


Golf Owner = Someone who takes pride in their car! Buys a car for its all round Quality, Comfort, performance and Handling! VW have the biggest cult following of enthusiasts than any other manufacturer! This you cant dispute!

They made the original Hot-Hatch and if it wasnt for the MK1 Golf i dont think your clios would be about? agree?

"Quality" - you may not be aware of this word but run and get a dictionary and youll see what i mean!
Quality: n. attribute, (degree of) excellence
So a nice general term there then... How do you justify excellence? Ultimately itll come down to personal opinion - you think VW are the be all and end all. They made the first hot hatch did they? um, no they didnt. They made the first GTi
Granted VW have a massive cult following - so does Baywatch, dont make it any good though does it?
 


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this is the dash i have just fitted into my mk2 jetta you cant say its square and boring and compared to my mk2 dash its the balls, i have mine lower than that tho.
 


Quote: Originally posted by 2.8VRG on 25 February 2003


"VW havnt grasped the idea of flare yet" Where talking about a TEN year old car, tell me what Renault were offering TEN years ago? Not a lot!
Ermm... my valvers 10 years old has a steering wheel that I presume inspired the momo jobs that people spend money on today, some of the most comfortable and supportive leather seats I have ever had the pleasure to sit in, chunky gear knob, more dials than you can shake a stick at - pretty much everything that people spend money my car has as standard bar air-con!
 


The mk3 dash is superb! Solid and practical! Not bits hanging off at every end and turn!

Philglover > I dont think VW are the Bee all and end all! But I know the VR6 was the car for me! and i dont think id own any car that isnt VAG!

VW, SEAT, BMW, AUDI, PORSCHE.
 


lol look at the mk1 golf tho gti 8v has trip computer calculating mpg outside temp oil temp average milage average speed and a few other settings plus a mpg indicator in the dash.

i think thats pretty pioneering for a car of its class

and the mk2 has all that plus leccy leather recaros leccy windows leccy mirrors leccy sunroof alloys as standard (on gti models) again not somthing you got on other cars. bee sting areal they were standard most people put them on there cars these days.

you cant say vw havnt been at the forefront of new stuff either lol
 


philglover > Ford! dont get me started!

We obviously have different tastes, you like cheapo sh*t thats decent for the moment, whereas i like something a bit more refined that will last as long as i need!
 


Quote: Originally posted by dogmaul on 25 February 2003

http://norice.topcities.com/deadbeat3.jpgsee what i mean build quality is bloody awfull you dont even get a stearing wheel ;)



lol! well its finished now so i put the steering wheel back hehe unfortuanately dont have any pics to post up yet but ill get some soon.

i dont think that ford would have a bigger following than vw yes more cars are bought by poeple in ford, but i think they buy them for the car not cause they have always bought fords and they are ford enthusiasts, i think alot of the vws that are bought are for enthusiasts, i mean club gti is the biggest car owners club in the country including ford owners clubs etc.
 


Where will your guys 172s be in ten years? The scrap yard thats where!

by then my VR will be 20 year old and still on the road destroying reanaults latest breed!
 


when i say for the car inford i mean everything to do with the car fords are cheap for one, everyone buys em for that reason they look ok :S but everyone who really knows about cars no that if you dint take care of em they rust easy but again its only because they are cheap and if we start talking mk1 escort then i change my tune cause they are loverly :D
 
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Im sorry but Ive been in a Mk1 and a Mk2 GTi.

1. They both had too much body roll and not enough grip.

2. The MK1 didnt have a trip computer, in the way I would imagine a trip computer.

3. They were pig slow!

4. The Mk2 had sh*tty seats!
 


philglover > You are a cheap b*tch! end of! you drive a clio FFS!

Ill speak my mind! Im not in nobodys face! Dont get uptight!
 


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