help needed ASAP!!!!

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

right, today i went to start my car to move it into the compound.
it started perfectly without struggle.
left the car outside for arround 2 hours whilst cleaning the bay where my car had been sat in the air for how long.

went to crank it over again and it fired up again without struggle, reversed it back into the bay and left it running.

here's the bit i am sh*ting myself about!!

in the mean time i went into the spray booth to spray few parts, andy ( garage owner and freind of mine ) came running in shouting his head off saying my car wont switch off and is whilstle'n like a b**** and building revs up, ran in and lights where flashing everwhere on the cluster, tried to blip the throttle to see if it would stop it and no joy, so next thing in line ( all whilst pannicing like hell ) desided to get a spanner and take the battery terminals off in the hope of killing the fuel pump.

managed to get it to stop, and re connected the battery, re primed the pump, went to crank the engine and it tries to turn over but nothing.

really need help with this, anything much appreciated.

( sorry for the long windded aproach )

ryan

 

[Goodj]

Wow, don't know about that, but it sounds like something out of

 

[Fred@BTM]

diesel? that's ran on its own oil, engine will more than likley be fucked

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Wow, don't know about that, but it sounds like something out of

funny...... i asked for help not sarcasm

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

diesel? that's ran on its own oil, engine will more than likley be f**ked

yes fred, dci 80. only just had all belts, new intercool and serviced parts done. ( done by my uncle who is ex renault ) guessing nice thick white smoke coming out the back is oil burning?

 

[Chri5]

Should have just put ur foot hard on the brake and stalled it. I had a diesel escort do this a couple of times, was never sure why though :S

 

[Chri5]

Was it thick bluey white? That' would be oil and it would stink too!

 

[Riley!]

Was it low on diesel. Like fred said once they run out they can be known to burn there engine oil to run

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Should have just put ur foot hard on the brake and stalled it. I had a diesel escort do this a couple of times, was never sure why though :S

i wish i did now, andy has just told me that i should of put it into 5th and had my breaks on as far as i could push the pedal :dapprove:

reason behind this ? rather annoying as it was bloody fine until i left it running

 

[Fred@BTM]

engine overfilled with oil?
turbo oil seals gone

etc

by putting it in 5th gear and lifting the clutch the engine will stall

think you'll be needing a new engine dude

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Was it low on diesel. Like fred said once they run out they can be known to burn there engine oil to run

half tank left, needle still reading the same. has my timming slipped? or can it be turbo related, was screaming until i took the terminals off to kill the pump

 

[Silent_Scone]

Sounds chronic , plug diagnostics in

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

engine overfilled with oil?
turbo oil seals gone

etc

checked before i started and it was half over the minimum level.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Sounds chronic , plug diagnostics in

have'nt got one to hand. the one thats in the garage usually has been sent off for updates,

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

if its any help fred, the lights on the dash are as follows

coil
serv
engine

 

[Riley!]

dosn't sound good dude, so close to being finished too. Have you checked oil level since its happened?

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

i know sods law!!, was all ready for paint aswell . just checked, level has dropped to minimum bang on. checked also for oil on the floor, round the head and near the turbo and thier is no signs of oil escaped

 

[Fred@BTM]

was the rev counter in the red? ie reving its tits off?

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

mine only goes upto 5k, really odd cluster aswell, black trim, black backround with white numbers and lettering. no red line visable. revs got stuck at just under 5k and didnt climb or fall :S

 

[Big Dom]

Same thing happened to me vw transporter and I had to have new engine and turbo

 

[Riley!]

only one thing for it, drain oil and look for metal

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Same thing happened to me vw transporter and I had to have new engine and turbo

i hope i don't have to, already spent a fortune on it's ' looks ' already .

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

only one thing for it, drain oil and look for metal

okay, i'll drain it now and come back with the results.

 

[Riley!]

fingers crossed for you. Will be tiny little bits in there, maybe shine an LED torch into the drained oil to look for them reflecting

 

[Fred@BTM]

na, get the boost pipe off the turbo and see how much oil there is, bet its swimming

 

[TrackdayAl]

Yep will have run on its own oil. Plugging a scanner wont say bugger all for that.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

results are not good so far, oil hasnt completely drained out yet but from shinning a torch on the oil, thiers little metallic flakes.

fred iv taken the intercooler pipes off and thiers ALLOT of oil running out of both pipe and intercooler.

guess its bye bye engine ?

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'd say that's 89.35% fucked

 

[Riley!]

Afraid that is bye bye engine then mate

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

brilliant just what i need , might aswell get it out and paint the car then follow on from thier.
right all i know is their is f**k all chance of saving this engine, can already tell that valves and pistons could be fucked and turbo gone with the wind.

if i get another engine and fit it, can you do the mega bits of timming for me fred?
i have the renault tools off my uncle to do them but i dont trust myself and neither does andy as he has no experiance with reno engines. uncle is off on holiday for the next 3 months aswell so i'm stuck.

fred would be closest as your only half hour or so away from me.

 

[TonkaTruck]

So so gutted about this news, was so excited to see the finished article.
Feel for you man!

Hope it gets sorted soon.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

So so gutted about this news, was so excited to see the finished article.
Feel for you man!

Hope it gets sorted soon.

cheers mate, got a new engine today thats done 45k ( dci 80 ) all complete, turbo ect.
going to strip that down, new piston rings, have the injectors sent off for a flush, re-lap the valves into thier seats,andy is going to port polish it up a little.

turbo is goin to a freinds to have the internals strengthened

flush all the fuel system out inc tank, new pump ( as i have killed it ),
then i think im going to make a trip to Fred@BTM to have it all timed up and checked over . don't want another f**k up when its all nearly finished :nono:
aaaaannndd after iv had the engine for a 1000 miles or so to check everything, might go for a cheeky remap

still gutted with it all, turning into a right money pit

 

[Fred@BTM]

just whack the engine in, don't bother cocking about with it!!!

 

[edde]

Just make sure the injectors are all codes to the ECU.

WOuldn't bother with any more than a new cambelt if needed.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Just make sure the injectors are all codes to the ECU.

WOuldn't bother with any more than a new cambelt if needed.

just whack the engine in, don't bother cocking about with it!!!

okay, just thought about going all out with this one in the hope of preventing the mess thats happened with the original. had it apart and tbh it looks like a squirel has been at it and swomped in lovely black oil :dapprove:.

will fit the new one then, but injectors and turbo are already off, andy has sent them to where they are going today.