I've ordered two kits now so I dont need to see you banging the neighbour!
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Home cctv and phone apps? recommendations please!
- Thread starter midge
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I think i’ve made my mind up and i’ll stick with the current wiring and add additional where needed. I remembered i actually have an Hikvision DVR in my loft that isn’t really any use to me as it only supports adding 2x IP cameras and the rest BNC. (Hikvision DS-7216HQHI-F2/N https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MUD6FLW/?tag=cliospnet01-21)
I’ll try research the 5MP cameras to add to it and hopefully it’s a cheap upgrade without buying a full new kit.
Liamm
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Not anymore
I'm quickly trying to find a wireless camera or 2 for the back and side of the house before prime days done lol
Got a ring doorbell already covering the front but last couple nights there's been someone going round gardens in the area so need extra cover
Seen some that should be about £40 down to £26 but not sure if they're any good? Can put an sd card in them so don't need a subscription which Is better.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073GQ8T2L/?tag=cliospnet01-21
Got a ring doorbell already covering the front but last couple nights there's been someone going round gardens in the area so need extra cover
Seen some that should be about £40 down to £26 but not sure if they're any good? Can put an sd card in them so don't need a subscription which Is better.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073GQ8T2L/?tag=cliospnet01-21
leeds2592
ClioSport Club Member
Bean 182 + E70 X5
I've got one of them cameras you've linked and it's not wireless.
Liamm
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leeds2592
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Bean 182 + E70 X5
Yeh it is. Thought you wanted like properly wireless haha.
Theyre spot on for the money. Obviously never going to be as good as something 5 times the price but I bought mine when it was on offer and can't moan at all. I'll try find a video of the quality.
Liamm
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That's clear enough for me! £26 each, will cover the back and side. Don't want to be up and down ladders every few weeks charging /replacing batteries.
Need a couple floodlights too for drive and garden. Back to Amazon! Bought loads today!
Also could he not have just put that through letterbox? Imagine not seeing it and putting your wipers on whilst driving haha
Need a couple floodlights too for drive and garden. Back to Amazon! Bought loads today!
Also could he not have just put that through letterbox? Imagine not seeing it and putting your wipers on whilst driving haha
Liamm
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Do you have an SD card in it or are you doing cloud storage?
Mine came yesterday but haven't had chance to lol at them properly so don't know where the SD card goes yet lol
leeds2592
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Bean 182 + E70 X5
SD card mate. Can't remember the size but got the largest it'll take it holds a few weeks before overwriting. You've got to take the camera apart to put the card in. Easy to do, only a few screws.
Liamm
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Nice one, I'll get some SD cards and get em up at some point next week.
Bluebeard
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Whichever has fuel
We have just had this installed at work, stupidly cheap, and can do everything from our phones.
All used on an App called HIK Connect.
Andy_con
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clio 182
i have a hikvision setup and it uses the above app. but wouldnt call it cheap for home use, think mine came in at £700.
ksixx
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Hikivision for premium/ proper home cctv - couple of 5mp hd vari focal poe. Around 600 for 4 cameras+ 8 chan NVR Can always add more or upgrade etc. For the hikivision ip poe camera they can be used individually without the need for a NVR via set up with computer. can get heat, motion and object, zonal detection.
For cheap alternative ive used the neo camera from amazon £25 quid + £10 for outdoor housing, with motion detection and cloud storage
For cheap alternative ive used the neo camera from amazon £25 quid + £10 for outdoor housing, with motion detection and cloud storage
Bluebeard
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Whichever has fuel
Is that not cheap?!
I thought it was silly cheap when they gave us the bill. In terms of how long it took and value for money at the end of it.
(but I know precisely nothing about technology costs!)
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
A single camera and cloud storage for a year should be sub £200, so your option is a bit lofty...
We’ve had the Nest Doorbell installed for about 6 months now. Camera is decent for what it is, nice wide angle. Looks a lot neater than equivalent Ring variants. It works well on the close up and medium distance movements but won’t give great clarity at any real range (to be expected)
I like to google ecosystem as we’ve already got a couple of the thermostats so being able to jump into the app and adjust everything you want really easily is great.
Handy options like muting the doorbell (good for when little ones having a nap or in bed) and the face detection works well too so you know who’s at the door plus you can just chat direct to delivery drivers etc. It definitely gives me peace of mind when my OH is at home with the kids as we do get cold callers from time to time, so she can just chat through the doorbell if she doesn’t like the look of them
We’re looking at getting an additional nest camera to add on at the front and possibly back garden as the doorbell has its limitations given its location.
davo172
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TCR'd 172
Go eufy 2k doorbell and homebase and pro cameras instead better all round and no subscription.
Back again.
Does anyone recommend just stand alone NVR?
So far i have 4 POE IP cameras up (2 Hikvision, 2 non branded but use the same protocols topping at 5mp quality). I connect directly to them each using the IVMS app on my phone for just viewing and use software based recording on a PC for motion which works okay but would like something dedicated.
I think eventually i'll end up with around 8 cameras in total - i don't need it to come with a HDD as i have plenty and i dont really need it to have dedicated POE ports on the unit. Literally something i can bang on the network and add all the cameras onto it for continous recording and access through an app for playback / viewing (its a pain having to go through port forwarding each time for any new cameras i add in currently and one unit set up would solve this)
I did see something like https://www.jmcsecure.co.uk/nvr-108...MIj_j-p6fX7QIVCr_tCh1UCwa6EAQYAyABEgITa_D_BwE but i think its probably too basic / old now (plus its only 4mp support). It doesn't bother me too much that its out of support but i cant seem to find anything regarding the web interface / app access and if its the same as Hikvision - works with ivms.
Anything that works with IVMS is a bonus as i have my relatives unit on the app and its useful to see mine & theirs all on one page / app (they live a few doors away so it's like i have extended view of the street currently!) .
Cheers
Does anyone recommend just stand alone NVR?
So far i have 4 POE IP cameras up (2 Hikvision, 2 non branded but use the same protocols topping at 5mp quality). I connect directly to them each using the IVMS app on my phone for just viewing and use software based recording on a PC for motion which works okay but would like something dedicated.
I think eventually i'll end up with around 8 cameras in total - i don't need it to come with a HDD as i have plenty and i dont really need it to have dedicated POE ports on the unit. Literally something i can bang on the network and add all the cameras onto it for continous recording and access through an app for playback / viewing (its a pain having to go through port forwarding each time for any new cameras i add in currently and one unit set up would solve this)
I did see something like https://www.jmcsecure.co.uk/nvr-108...MIj_j-p6fX7QIVCr_tCh1UCwa6EAQYAyABEgITa_D_BwE but i think its probably too basic / old now (plus its only 4mp support). It doesn't bother me too much that its out of support but i cant seem to find anything regarding the web interface / app access and if its the same as Hikvision - works with ivms.
Anything that works with IVMS is a bonus as i have my relatives unit on the app and its useful to see mine & theirs all on one page / app (they live a few doors away so it's like i have extended view of the street currently!) .
Cheers
Cookson
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Mk1 Audi TT 3.2 V6
Going to bump this thread again and then read back through it to try to get my head around it, but if anyone wants to chip in with advice, it's more than welcome. I'm looking for a set up for home. Thinking 3 camera, 1 front, one side, one rear, along with a recording device. I assume the best bet is to fit them to the underside of the facias at the top and then feed the wiring up into the loft?
The missus seems to think we need to view it on the downstairs TV, but that would mean trailing a s**t load of wires about, whereas if I run it into the loft I can then bring it back down through the ceiling into the office.
I'm thinking if I put them on the underside of the lower elevation bit, they are within reaching distance for some toerag to rip off? The router for the house is literally on the other side of the window where the cable box is, and the TV on the opposite side of the room
The missus seems to think we need to view it on the downstairs TV, but that would mean trailing a s**t load of wires about, whereas if I run it into the loft I can then bring it back down through the ceiling into the office.
I'm thinking if I put them on the underside of the lower elevation bit, they are within reaching distance for some toerag to rip off? The router for the house is literally on the other side of the window where the cable box is, and the TV on the opposite side of the room
Cookson
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Mk1 Audi TT 3.2 V6
OEM Battery Nonce
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I have had various Chinese variants and they all fail, the apps are a bit suspect and support isn't there. Although one failed after 2 years and amazon just refunded me.
Currently on a hikvision DVR with HD cameras.
Few bits to consider;
Camera location, everyone gets caught up with "they can get hold of them". Put them in a position that will see people coming and provide usable pictures. Don't put them too high or you get "god mode" and just see someone's head and no recognisable features.
DVR / NVR location, you'll need to access it maybe twice a year properly. For most uses I'd run a HDMI cable from the loft to the living room TV along with a USB extension for the mouse. Nothing else needed really.
Get more cameras, you'll never regret being able to see a car go down the street and clock it's reg plate, but will regret not being able to see the fence where they jumped over and cut your cables.
Different cameras can break it up and positioning helps make you look less drug dealer. I have a dome one behind my sky dish overlooking the drive, bullet one's around the house and a couple of domes on the shed.
Get cameras with a decent MP rating, a lot are HD but 1.3mp. Put them on the TV and you'll not see a thing.
You'll want an ethernet cable to your DVR ideally for the web option.
Currently on a hikvision DVR with HD cameras.
Few bits to consider;
Camera location, everyone gets caught up with "they can get hold of them". Put them in a position that will see people coming and provide usable pictures. Don't put them too high or you get "god mode" and just see someone's head and no recognisable features.
DVR / NVR location, you'll need to access it maybe twice a year properly. For most uses I'd run a HDMI cable from the loft to the living room TV along with a USB extension for the mouse. Nothing else needed really.
Get more cameras, you'll never regret being able to see a car go down the street and clock it's reg plate, but will regret not being able to see the fence where they jumped over and cut your cables.
Different cameras can break it up and positioning helps make you look less drug dealer. I have a dome one behind my sky dish overlooking the drive, bullet one's around the house and a couple of domes on the shed.
Get cameras with a decent MP rating, a lot are HD but 1.3mp. Put them on the TV and you'll not see a thing.
You'll want an ethernet cable to your DVR ideally for the web option.
Gaz_
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Extreme mode
Best images will be here, you could put them back to back,.ie the front one front left looking back across the property, but the outside light will cause problems
As mentioned dont get drawn into mounting them too high, they are useless as they will just pick up tops of heads etc
For domestic stick.to.hilook, basically hikvision which is already cheap, but cheaper 🤣
leeds2592
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Bean 182 + E70 X5
That'd be great for his neighbour....
Clio 197,with megan'
I have set up a Simply Safe system, Keypad/cameras/motion sensors/Remote, and phone app, Even good view at night, and very easy to install. Monitoring available for a monthly fee as well.
Gaz_
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Extreme mode
rctempire
ClioSport Moderator
I went to look at this awful cowboy system someone installed last night.
Its an awful wireless job.
Anran CCTV - 4 wireless cameras. Bought from Facebook Market Place, guy blocked him soon as he walked away with money!
Cameras work on 3 bars wireless signal or better, anything lower the picture is about 5/10 seconds behind even on recording.
What i didn't understand is the chap ran power cables, then in nice outdoor trunking, drilled holes, located the dvr right in the middle of the hall. Surely should have wired them properly, or used better kit!
Asked the guy to buy a 50M HDMI!! It was max 15m, so the guy bought that instead.
The man said the hard drive was moving about, opened the case, yep, was a 500GB Drive (paid for 1TB) and it was a drive from 2011, i mean it was glowing hot! Not secured and taped in with electrical tape!
Got the system up and running, you can piggy back off other cameras to assist the crap wireless system.
Sadly the guy wants to relocate the dvr, don't know if its going to be possible either unless i get better wireless aerials for him.
Chaps away to get a WD RED or a decent SSD, he seems fine with doing it himself, good luck to him.
Awful awful!
Its an awful wireless job.
Anran CCTV - 4 wireless cameras. Bought from Facebook Market Place, guy blocked him soon as he walked away with money!
Cameras work on 3 bars wireless signal or better, anything lower the picture is about 5/10 seconds behind even on recording.
What i didn't understand is the chap ran power cables, then in nice outdoor trunking, drilled holes, located the dvr right in the middle of the hall. Surely should have wired them properly, or used better kit!
Asked the guy to buy a 50M HDMI!! It was max 15m, so the guy bought that instead.
The man said the hard drive was moving about, opened the case, yep, was a 500GB Drive (paid for 1TB) and it was a drive from 2011, i mean it was glowing hot! Not secured and taped in with electrical tape!
Got the system up and running, you can piggy back off other cameras to assist the crap wireless system.
Sadly the guy wants to relocate the dvr, don't know if its going to be possible either unless i get better wireless aerials for him.
Chaps away to get a WD RED or a decent SSD, he seems fine with doing it himself, good luck to him.
Awful awful!
I recently added two cameras to my Synology NAS box, and I'm seriously impressed.
The bottom two are the new ones, and are a couple of Reolinks off of Amazon, the clarity compared to the D-Links from 2015/6 is incredible. It is pitch black in the garage too.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B079L5XDNZ/?tag=cliospnet01-21
£94 for a pair of them, seemed cheap to me. Didn't take too much configuring to turn all the phone home stuff off.
The bottom two are the new ones, and are a couple of Reolinks off of Amazon, the clarity compared to the D-Links from 2015/6 is incredible. It is pitch black in the garage too.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B079L5XDNZ/?tag=cliospnet01-21
£94 for a pair of them, seemed cheap to me. Didn't take too much configuring to turn all the phone home stuff off.
Andy_con
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clio 182
this is the camera i have down low, its just above my garage door.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07W954M3J/?tag=cliospnet01-21
8mp and motion and line detection. it also has excellent leds for night vision
would highly recommend it
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07W954M3J/?tag=cliospnet01-21
8mp and motion and line detection. it also has excellent leds for night vision
would highly recommend it
davo172
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TCR'd 172
rctempire
ClioSport Moderator
So im in the market for a NVR, 8 channel and some either domes or bullets.
Budget is under 1k for it all.
Will be cabling cat6 throughout the house so will got back to a POE switch if needed.
Budget is under 1k for it all.
Will be cabling cat6 throughout the house so will got back to a POE switch if needed.
rctempire
ClioSport Moderator
Thought these may entice people.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08KG289Q4/?tag=cliospnet01-21
Apply voucher - 20% off
£67.19
Reolink 4K Ultra HD RLC-820A
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08KG289Q4/?tag=cliospnet01-21
Apply voucher - 20% off
£67.19
dann2707
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How much was that all in? Can you also connect indoor cameras to it?
Wanting to get some for outside and 2 for inside at the new gaff. With the ability to add more in the future. Would you recommend yours?
Yeah it'll run all sorts of cameras, it's not just a CCTV box though:
Download Center - download | Synology Inc.
Centralize data storage and backup, streamline file collaboration, optimize video management, and secure network deployment to facilitate data management.
www.synology.com
Synology Box ~£200
2x 3TB HDD ~£200
2x D-Link Cameras ~£400 (bought back in 2015)
2x Reolink Cameras £94
Additional camera license for Synology (to use 4 cameras, you get 2 free.) ~£150
I have a PoE switch, but that switches everything in the house not just the CCTV.
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