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how fast.....





whos got the fastest 0 to 60 172, mods allowed

p.s. what did you do, how much and is it worth the expense?
 
  Nippy white cup


Think its Paddys m8. Think its standard but was stripped out. 14.7 1/4 mile. Very good time, obviously has a good un there.
 


Well guys, I really dont know about mine, although I have driven it a bit I havent got it back yet (just waiting for 2 things to be done then its all mine hehehe) so until I can get it proved I cant really say anything.
 
  320d M Sport


when i did AP22 runs, the meter was reading at 14.8 and 0-60 at 6.4, i can keep with me mates 20V Turbo to 70 and his is low 6s?

dunno, would like it timed properly really.
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d


Well, when we did that group AP22 session last year with the mk1, mk2, Cup & mk1 V6 we got the following 0-60 times...


mk1 172 - 7.11secs
mk2 172 - 6.34secs
Cup 172 - 6.67secs
mk1 V6 - 6.25secs


All cars were factory standard apart from the mk1 which had an open induction kit on, and probably what affected the time in this case.

The Cup was brand spanking new, on trade plates, with only about 200 miles on the clock at the time so tight as hell and not a good car to use as a benchmark, but at the time (Aug 02) there were not many about so we were lucky to get that.

The mk2 was a year old, 8k miles and taken off the forecourt, which was then sold a few days later so somebody got a quick one!

The mk1 V6 belonged to my mate (just got a mk2) and hes the sales manager, hence the availability of the cars!



Not saying those times are to be taken as gospel, but we did a few runs and they were the best times for each car, so its if you believe the AP22 or not!?

Done some stopwatch & speedo runs with mine and got low 6s too, but thats a cr@p way of timing it.
 


Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 05 November 2003



mk1 172 - 7.11secs
mk2 172 - 6.34secs
Cup 172 - 6.67secs
mk1 V6 - 6.25secs
when ive seen these quoted, its always been the other way round for the 172 mk1 and mk2!?!?!? is that right?
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d


Quote: Originally posted by Rorrie on 05 November 2003

when ive seen these quoted, its always been the other way round for the 172 mk1 and mk2!?!?!? is that right?
Did you not read my comments then?!



It had an open induction kit fitted which was not helping as it was warm weather, shown up more with a cr@p 0-100 time.

Also, that particular mk1 was never a "quick one" and my old 106 GTi was easily a match for it, so a bad example in our group test.



However, that mk2 was feckin rapid, so made the mk1 look even worse!
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d


Quote: Originally posted by phill* on 06 November 2003


how is the cup slower? is that becuase it was not run in
Yeah, theres no way a car with only 200 miles on the clock is gonna give good performance...
 


i recon i could get 6.7-6.6 out of my MK2 172. cos when i did the run @ 6.99 i had a female passenger and 1/2 a tank. so on my own with 1/4 tank
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d


Quote: Originally posted by phill* on 06 November 2003

i recon i could get 6.7-6.6 out of my MK2 172. cos when i did the run @ 6.99 i had a female passenger and 1/2 a tank. so on my own with 1/4 tank
How did you time that?!

If it was the stopwatch & speedo method then ignore it...
 


it was done over 5 runs 0-60 with stopwatch on mobile phone. Told her to stop when i was at 59mph to counter delay and also there would be a delay between start and go.. so 6.99 is perfectly feasable M8



phill*
 

Clart

ClioSport Club Member


those AP-22s are crap no? apparently if u tilt them a certain way u get quicker times?
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic


Youve all seen my 0-60 runs.. I will leave it at that, needless to say the AP22 times of the mk2 172 dont seem unrealistic.
 


Quote: Originally posted by Chris nnic on 05 November 2003

I would guess that Paddys probably does 0-60 in high 6s. Maybe 6.7ish?
:eek: I seem to remember a dashingly handsome bloke in a gorgeous silver mk1 172 the same day beating a red MK2 with PADDYS on the plate down the strip a few times. I seem to remember him getting 14.603. Dunno who he was though.....
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d


Quote: Originally posted by phill* on 06 November 2003


it was done over 5 runs 0-60 with stopwatch on mobile phone. Told her to stop when i was at 59mph to counter delay and also there would be a delay between start and go.. so 6.99 is perfectly feasable M8
The only way to do it properly is with some kind of performance meter (i.e. an AP22) or proper timing gear...

With a stopwatch you can get a "rough" idea and Ive done some in mine, but Id like to try using proper gear.
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d


Quote: Originally posted by Mitsi on 06 November 2003

those AP-22s are crap no? apparently if u tilt them a certain way u get quicker times?
Yeah, it has to be mounted correctly or you can get a wrong reading...

When we did this the AP22 was mounted flat & level as it should be!
 


Those AP22 times of Richs look about right to say the MK1 had an open IK on it. An open IK in the engine bay fecks up your times. I did some experiments with an open kit in the engine bay and even did a couple of 8 second runs to 60.
 


Quote: Originally posted by Rich-D on 06 November 2003


Quote: Originally posted by Rorrie on 05 November 2003

when ive seen these quoted, its always been the other way round for the 172 mk1 and mk2!?!?!? is that right?
Did you not read my comments then?!



It had an open induction kit fitted which was not helping as it was warm weather, shown up more with a cr@p 0-100 time.

Also, that particular mk1 was never a "quick one" and my old 106 GTi was easily a match for it, so a bad example in our group test.



However, that mk2 was feckin rapid, so made the mk1 look even worse!
i presumed that the induction kit would make the mk1 fatser and as the mk2 was standard - it would be even more oposite - didnt have a clue warm weather slowed it down if you have an open ait induction kit i know bugger all about engine mods
 


yea i know stopwatch isnt acurate but i was impressed because i was near enough every time if not better than the quoted 0-60 figures. im not too botherd wether it does 7.2-6.8 not much real difference, but i would only expect to feel the difference with 6.0. it was just a bit of fun. im leaving my car standard until next clio or megane rs or golfgti or well... anthing with turbo.

phill*
 

Rich-D

ClioSport Club Member
  E90 LCI 330d


Quote: Originally posted by Rorrie on 07 November 2003

i presumed that the induction kit would make the mk1 fatser and as the mk2 was standard - it would be even more oposite - didnt have a clue warm weather slowed it down if you have an open ait induction kit i know bugger all about engine mods
Sorry, thought that was common knowledge...
 


Mine ran 6.88 secs at Santa Pod using an AP22. Even with the AP22 timings dont seem to always be 100% accurate though, I ran 4 times on same day and each time checked the AP22 against the official timing slips, sometimes it was spot on, sometime not, no idea why, all I did between the runs was switch the thing off and on again. On one of the runs which was near spot on the official times for distance and terminal speed I got 7.3 secs which I guess is pretty well there for a standard MK1, my 6.88 felt faster and I cooked the clutch that time!.
 
  172 cup,s2 rs turbo


Ive got a cup and never had it properley timed but its just as quick as my mates civic type R
 


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