Clio Dci100 Dynamique
Thinkin bout gettin one of these, wondered if they were as quick as a 172 and how tunable they are? 
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How quick is a clio williams?
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Black-Gold 182
Thinkin bout gettin one of these, wondered if they were as quick as a 172 and how tunable they are?
Slower than a 182 - had a willy try to race me when I was 2up, and I had only just had my 182, so wasn't too used to it. I beat him easily.
C-VXR, T8 Map 220BHP
had one on my ass comming off a r.bout at 20mph in my stock 172. over about a 1/3 mile i had drawn about 6 car leangths ahead. (stright road tho)
You sure those wernt valvers? Ive nevr had a problem with 172's in my valver, always pull away from them especially from a standing start!
C-VXR, T8 Map 220BHP
well cant be 100% sure as did only see it from the sides (quickly) and the front in my RVM but looked like a willy but it could have been a good 16v rep.
Clio Dci100 Dynamique
Yeah cos would hav thought they quite a bit lighter
Black-Gold 182
What I had along side me LOOKED like a willy - gold wheels, blue paint, "williams" badge on the back. As said above, could have been a reproduction, but who knows.
they're very tunable though, cams and a remap will usually see 170bhp.
and to add mine was cammed valver running 147bhp.
Clio Dci100 Dynamique
so to 60 from a standstil in about....? oh and would economy be worse than 172?
0-60 iirc is 6.9 but if you raise the rev limit to 7k instead of 6.5k you'll be getting there in about 6 iirc.
Clio Dci100 Dynamique
So how is that not faster than a 172? :-S
Ive said they are faster. have a look at this: its a stripped valver, so p-w ratio will be about the same as a 172.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ2drS3vR0U
And ive raced a williams in my valver and got slaughtered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ2drS3vR0U
And ive raced a williams in my valver and got slaughtered.
It depends on the individual williams tbh. I've got a williams engine in my hybrid and with just an induction kit and exhaust its been rolling roaded at 172 and 174 bhp. Others turn out to be bang on 150bhp (standard power) and so are a fair bit slower. The truth is some williams are quicker than a 172/182 and vice versa, but almost without fail anyone who has driven both says that the williams is a better/much more fun car to drive regardless of straight line speed.
williams 2
they are just as tuneable if not better for power per pound than a 172! ive seen 7-8 hp from an exhaust on my williams. Now with the itb's, cams and head work it will be super rapid!! around 225 im expecting and iwth hardly any weight :evil:....
get one and spend the extra on cams and remap and piss on them sport owners :rasp:
get one and spend the extra on cams and remap and piss on them sport owners :rasp:
God I love these narrow minded elitist views from deluded 172/182 owners. Few key points to consider. Standard 1*2's rarely make quoted power, whereas standard well kept Williams usually make above quoted power (mine made 156bhp with an open IK on the same day 172's and 182's were making around the same to about 170ish TOPS). Then their's the weight, the Williams ways a fair bit less.
My old Williams standard is quicker than my missus' old Ph1 172, it also totally and utterly raped a 182 off here 2 up, with 4 wheels and tyres in the back and luggage
Mine was one of the quickest ones, but then it was well maintained at no expense spared... but on the flip side I've had plays with some absolute dogs that even valvers would have the edge on below 100mph. Problem is they are old, so finding a decent one to have a comparison against is difficult. Come up North and have a play with some of the decent Williams and you'll soon be a believer.
My old Williams standard is quicker than my missus' old Ph1 172, it also totally and utterly raped a 182 off here 2 up, with 4 wheels and tyres in the back and luggage
Mine was one of the quickest ones, but then it was well maintained at no expense spared... but on the flip side I've had plays with some absolute dogs that even valvers would have the edge on below 100mph. Problem is they are old, so finding a decent one to have a comparison against is difficult. Come up North and have a play with some of the decent Williams and you'll soon be a believer.
God I love these narrow minded elitist views from deluded 172/182 owners. Few key points to consider. Standard 1*2's rarely make quoted power, whereas standard well kept Williams usually make above quoted power (mine made 156bhp with an open IK on the same day 172's and 182's were making around the same to about 170ish TOPS). Then their's the weight, the Williams ways a fair bit less.
My old Williams standard is quicker than my missus' old Ph1 172, it also totally and utterly raped a 182 off here 2 up, with 4 wheels and tyres in the back and luggage
Mine was one of the quickest ones, but then it was well maintained at no expense spared... but on the flip side I've had plays with some absolute dogs that even valvers would have the edge on below 100mph. Problem is they are old, so finding a decent one to have a comparison against is difficult. Come up North and have a play with some of the decent Williams and you'll soon be a believer.
Mr Ambiguous lol.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. There are a few genuinely quick Clio Williams. The rest are as you'd expect, around about 172 pace or slower. The exception is not the rule!!!!!!
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ha lol
to be fair iv had a valver,a hybrid and now my 172 and my ten pence is the 172 is alot easier to drive,and day to day i prefere the 172,the 16v was great fun,but had to get it over 4500 to get anywhere,the hybrid was a bloody rocket,with breathing mods and no interior i ran 14.1 q/m a fair few times,and would do 45mpg all day if driven slow,but you cant drive it slow lol
to be fair iv had a valver,a hybrid and now my 172 and my ten pence is the 172 is alot easier to drive,and day to day i prefere the 172,the 16v was great fun,but had to get it over 4500 to get anywhere,the hybrid was a bloody rocket,with breathing mods and no interior i ran 14.1 q/m a fair few times,and would do 45mpg all day if driven slow,but you cant drive it slow lol
CB600FS
Thats a big deciding factor now aswell, all the Williams Clio boys think 120k is low mileage. Hard to find one that is totally standard, looked after with no rust.
Every time I see a Williams go round a track and seeing how well they stick to the road like s**t to a blanket I want one. They make Cups handling look something rotten
Mk1 vs Mk2 day... who won? nuff said. Thank you please
Williams is faster, I've owned one, had access to 172's and 182's stock and tuned. My Williams was quicker than Donny's off here as we used to have numerous plays and that's a rare 172 engine that actually makes 172bhp. Ask Boz what happened when he tried to take on the mighty Williams. Once again, couldn't compete against an 11 year old (at the time) car that was 2 up with a boot full of camping gear and 4 wheels with tyres.
Peak power 1*2's make more of, but then they also run far wilder cams and need the VVT to idle smoothly. Even then the Williams makes a better spread of power. Dispute it all you want girls, technology just never moved on, it went backwards if anything. I may replace the F4R for an F7R in mine
GDI 227bhp ITB`d 172 cup
Mk1 vs Mk2 day... who won? nuff said. Thank you please
Williams is faster, I've owned one, had access to 172's and 182's stock and tuned. My Williams was quicker than Donny's off here as we used to have numerous plays and that's a rare 172 engine that actually makes 172bhp. Ask Boz what happened when he tried to take on the mighty Williams. Once again, couldn't compete against an 11 year old (at the time) car that was 2 up with a boot full of camping gear and 4 wheels with tyres.
Peak power 1*2's make more of, but then they also run far wilder cams and need the VVT to idle smoothly. Even then the Williams makes a better spread of power. Dispute it all you want girls, technology just never moved on, it went backwards if anything. I may replace the F4R for an F7R in mine
behav dude, thought u had sum big plans for ur TB`d 1 lol
I do mate, I'm only pissing around, but it's true, the F7R is actually a better engine than our 172/182 blocks. Andy's said this for years, which I know some of the c**k suckers on here wont pay any attention to, but BenR said the same and I know a lot like to swing of his sack so therefore it must be true! lol
well it's Clio Sport fella. Go on Renaultsport forums and it's totally different. Too many punks trying to look good in the eyes of other geeks on here and playing to the crowd to gain acceptance, its basically like a school or zoo. I've used a couple of the tuning companies on here and seen how they operate at the front and behind the scenes and the things I know would amaze people. I'm good at finding things out and cutting through the bullshit, hence the reason people love me lol
http://youtube.com/user/Physcotropic
few vids on there will show you how quick a williams is. check out jesus' old un against the elise round donny. lol
a well tuned one will be hitting 60 in mid 5s...i s**t you not. thats just cams/remap btw. with the bodies on i dare say its a bit quicker if you can get the grip .
chipped williams evrything else underbonnet std.vs supposedly the quickest mk1 about
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/febe0105-6674-4218-b3a1-983101671418.htm
btw.was a shitload quicker with the cams
if you run a search for 'clio williams' on www.streetfire.net theres a few vids on there too.
wouldnt bother with the 182 tbh, either valver hybrid/williams, or 197 i would say are a lot better in terms of fun/track speed
few vids on there will show you how quick a williams is. check out jesus' old un against the elise round donny. lol
a well tuned one will be hitting 60 in mid 5s...i s**t you not. thats just cams/remap btw. with the bodies on i dare say its a bit quicker if you can get the grip .
chipped williams evrything else underbonnet std.vs supposedly the quickest mk1 about
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/febe0105-6674-4218-b3a1-983101671418.htm
btw.was a shitload quicker with the cams
if you run a search for 'clio williams' on www.streetfire.net theres a few vids on there too.
wouldnt bother with the 182 tbh, either valver hybrid/williams, or 197 i would say are a lot better in terms of fun/track speed
PMSL! I couldn't resist. You'd think after all this time I'd get bored baiting them wouldn't you? lol
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i have a boggo std willy 1, and a slightly tuned willy 1, std one needs a little work for mot, but when done your welcome to come and get your ass handed to you by either of em. may also have hybrided the valver by then too so thatd be 3 cars able to hand you your arse no problem.
baiting?? lol....
traps been laid many years ago by the williams.and its trapped n killed most 172/182 versions in its time...
182 & LY Clio 220 ed
Mk1 vs Mk2 day... who won? nuff said. Thank you please
Williams is faster, I've owned one, had access to 172's and 182's stock and tuned. My Williams was quicker than Donny's off here as we used to have numerous plays and that's a rare 172 engine that actually makes 172bhp. Ask Boz what happened when he tried to take on the mighty Williams. Once again, couldn't compete against an 11 year old (at the time) car that was 2 up with a boot full of camping gear and 4 wheels with tyres.
Peak power 1*2's make more of, but then they also run far wilder cams and need the VVT to idle smoothly. Even then the Williams makes a better spread of power. Dispute it all you want girls, technology just never moved on, it went backwards if anything. I may replace the F4R for an F7R in mine
Although Jon, There was verry little in it...plus, mine was standard...and yours had been played with!!!
:quiet:She's still doing alright with 175.3Bhp with just panel filter and replacement exhaust!!! I do think my Cup was quick out of the box
