RB 182 FF
It doesn't help that your Panigale can do about 70 odd MPH in first gear....... :tongueclosed:
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How you get rid of a camera van ?
- Thread starter Paris 182
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It doesn't help that your Panigale can do about 70 odd MPH in first gear....... :tongueclosed:
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
You don't?
The older I've got, the slower I drive in residential areas. By my house it's mostly 30's, some happen to be long and straight, and many drivers (especially at night) really speed along there. I'd like to see a fixed camera or two, to slow them down.
It's also the clowns who do 40 in 50 / 60's but also 40 in a 30's that (also) get to me. They're the drivers who flash you if you overtake them (in the NSL roads) because they (presumably) think you're going too fast / dangerous. As said (in this or another thread) , just doing the speed limit, to some degree, doesn't make it safer.
It's also the clowns who do 40 in 50 / 60's but also 40 in a 30's that (also) get to me. They're the drivers who flash you if you overtake them (in the NSL roads) because they (presumably) think you're going too fast / dangerous. As said (in this or another thread) , just doing the speed limit, to some degree, doesn't make it safer.
RacingBlue + IceBurg
Slow drivers are far worse. If I leave a bit too late for work in the morning there is a lady who I always seem to get stuck behind.
The speed limit on the A48 into Gloucester from mine is 50, and changes to 60 for a few miles, then back to 50. This lady always drives around 30mph all the way. The tail backs in the morning I have seen her cause is phenomenal.
And she's not some old lady either, looks only to be around 30ish. Makes matters worse there is only 3 double lane sections, and each one is only around 100ish yards. Which is no good when you have 30+ cars behind you in morning rush hour. She constantly has people over taking her and getting beeped at and lights flashing at her.
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The speed limit on the A48 into Gloucester from mine is 50, and changes to 60 for a few miles, then back to 50. This lady always drives around 30mph all the way. The tail backs in the morning I have seen her cause is phenomenal.
And she's not some old lady either, looks only to be around 30ish. Makes matters worse there is only 3 double lane sections, and each one is only around 100ish yards. Which is no good when you have 30+ cars behind you in morning rush hour. She constantly has people over taking her and getting beeped at and lights flashing at her.
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Sorry i dont follow?
Majority of roads are 30mph. dont see many cars doing less than 35.
Time of the month. /ignore
I picked up a copper the other day... he says, "Just drive like I'm not here, I do 120mph around the M25 and I've been in the police for for 15 years... us officers are probably the worst for speeding"
There was a lot more to that conversation, but I shall leave it at that
There was a lot more to that conversation, but I shall leave it at that
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
On Sunday I got stuck behind some absolute melt who was doing 25mph in a 50mph limit. Absolute weapon.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Bike I get, but van? I think a lot of folks that get caught spend a fair amount of time over the limit and rely on the fact that there aren't many traffic officers about, and fixed cameras are easily avoided.
Round here they've started using an officer on a bike with a portable setup. Impossible to see until you're on top of him.
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
that's odd, i rarely see anyone doing more than 30 in a 30 around here. I dont think ive ever creeped more than 2 or 3mph over 30 in a 30
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
You are Scottish though. If I'm ever up there I dare not fondle the speed limit for fear of setting off one of the cameras
Cameras are to Scotland what sheep are to wales. It's mental
You guys would love it down here in Australia, especially in Victoria.
At least those vans are white with reflective markings and pics of cameras on them. Here they are unmarked camera cars - as in regular SUV or estate. About the only visual clue you get is that they are usually parked on their lonesome on the side of the road, but not always.
And just for laughs - the leeway is only 3km/h... :rage:
At least those vans are white with reflective markings and pics of cameras on them. Here they are unmarked camera cars - as in regular SUV or estate. About the only visual clue you get is that they are usually parked on their lonesome on the side of the road, but not always.
And just for laughs - the leeway is only 3km/h... :rage:
Advikaz
ClioSport Club Member
I always make sure I stick to the 30's.
They are usually 30 for a good reason in my experience. However some of the other limits are a f**king joke!
They wonder why traffic is so bad!
Don't even get me started on 'smart motorways' the m20 is s**t loads worse since they implemented that s**t idea. Three lanes doing exactly the same speed bumper to bumper and nobody can change lanes for love nor money. Nice one!
And to add insult half the time there's a max limit set to 40 or something ridiculous there's nothing f**king there! Honestly I've seen it at midnight and the motorway is empty and they slow you right down for nothing. Or the motorway is flowing and boom they set a maximum limit, and the whole of your horizon lights up like a Christmas tree where everyone's jumping on the anchors and then you get shunts galore and or tailbacks.
c**ty f**king c**t c***s
They are usually 30 for a good reason in my experience. However some of the other limits are a f**king joke!
They wonder why traffic is so bad!
Don't even get me started on 'smart motorways' the m20 is s**t loads worse since they implemented that s**t idea. Three lanes doing exactly the same speed bumper to bumper and nobody can change lanes for love nor money. Nice one!
And to add insult half the time there's a max limit set to 40 or something ridiculous there's nothing f**king there! Honestly I've seen it at midnight and the motorway is empty and they slow you right down for nothing. Or the motorway is flowing and boom they set a maximum limit, and the whole of your horizon lights up like a Christmas tree where everyone's jumping on the anchors and then you get shunts galore and or tailbacks.
c**ty f**king c**t c***s
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RB 182 FF
Where I live the amount of marked police cars has dropped hugely over the years, they are sneaky bar-stewards and most are unmarked Bmw's now.... In their stealth Bmw's they have closely followed my rear bumper through 30 zones on more than one occasion hoping im going to floor it once I get to national speed limit so they can switch on their blues, but unfortunately for them I'm one step ahead and know every unmarked car in the area thanks to a few freinds sharing info...
Fixed speed cameras are quite rare here, those mobile vans make plenty of appearances in summer though... But these sneaky unmarked intimidating arse wipes are scum of the earth as far as I'm concerned, and apparently it's happening all over the UK.... In my book its completely unacceptable, it's trying to force someone into actions they wouldn't normally take, because if there's one thing I can't stand it's tailgaters.......... :rage:
Fixed speed cameras are quite rare here, those mobile vans make plenty of appearances in summer though... But these sneaky unmarked intimidating arse wipes are scum of the earth as far as I'm concerned, and apparently it's happening all over the UK.... In my book its completely unacceptable, it's trying to force someone into actions they wouldn't normally take, because if there's one thing I can't stand it's tailgaters.......... :rage:
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Maybe I'm a c**t (or definitely), but speeding, getting caught and then being upset about it seems a bit whiney to me.
Fair enough if it's a minor discretion at 3am on a deserted road, or if you're involved in a car chase with Jason Statham. But otherwise it's peoples own fault for going enough over the limit and/or poor observation?
Fair enough if it's a minor discretion at 3am on a deserted road, or if you're involved in a car chase with Jason Statham. But otherwise it's peoples own fault for going enough over the limit and/or poor observation?
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Where I live the amount of marked police cars has dropped hugely over the years, they are sneaky bar-stewards and most are unmarked Bmw's now.... In their stealth Bmw's they have closely followed my rear bumper through 30 zones on more than one occasion hoping im going to floor it once I get to national speed limit so they can switch on their blues, but unfortunately for them I'm one step ahead and know every unmarked car in the area thanks to a few freinds sharing info...
Fixed speed cameras are quite rare here, those mobile vans make plenty of appearances in summer though... But these sneaky unmarked intimidating arse wipes are scum of the earth as far as I'm concerned, and apparently it's happening all over the UK.... In my book its completely unacceptable, it's trying to force someone into actions they wouldn't normally take, because if there's one thing I can't stand it's tailgaters.......... :rage:
Entrapment is illegal. If you were to have a rear facing camera showing them tailgating you then they could get into a lot more trouble than you....
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
The other day when I was in Wales, I came off a roundabout, going downhill on a ruralish road with a slight bend in it... So easy to let your speed get away from you if you're not diligent.
It was getting dark and the road was very quiet. Hey ho, mobile piggy bank at the bottom of the hill trying to save lives.
I'd probably have been caught out had i not been driving like a granny trying not to spill whatever it was I had in the car at the time.
Granted, blatantly exceeding the speed limits because you're billy big b****cks then whinging because you've been caught is being a petty b**ch, but the way these cameras operate is awful, purely trying to catch out unsuspecting motorists
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
I do get what you're saying, but the counter argument would be that speed limits do apply downhill.
I'm not saying I'm in favour of how they operate. Personally, I stick to the limit (or slightly below) in any posted limit (ie bar the black line). If/when I get caught doing over 60/70 I'm not going to b**ch about how I got caught.
Live by the sword etc.
Doesn't stop them doing it though. An unmarked Jag once followed me the full 12 miles home from my mate's house to mine, trying to get me to go for it down a few dual carriageways. The c**t even reversed back onto a roundabout after he was up the side of me and was forced to go off a different exit.
Unsurprisingly the police denied all knowledge of it and told me it wasn't a police vehicle (it was, I saw it pull a car over a few weeks later).
Also, the speeding tolerance mentioned earlier from Police Scotland was a short term crackdown iirc. They could stop you for going 31 in a 30, but only give you a warning. Was supposed to be more of an awareness thing than anything else. Still a load of shite mind you.
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Only ever been caught once. Quiet dual carriageway in wales, closest house about half a mile from the road. Road trap, done.
Even the judge and everyone else knew the road when it was read out in court. Hated cameras since.
Even the judge and everyone else knew the road when it was read out in court. Hated cameras since.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Oh no, I understand that speed limits apply everywhere, I should've elaborated on how it's the placement of the cameras is what I don't agree on.
Putting them in daft places to catch people out purely to catch a lot of people and generate the most fines.
The places that could do with cameras get no coverage whatsoever. I saw a Beamer almost lose it on a mild bend in the rain last night. He must've been doing 55 on a very narrow, loosely tarmaced road with a park on one side and houses on the other.
The amount of people which hammer it down that road and my road is staggering. But because there isn't a lot of traffic down them there won't ever be any camera vans there because they won't generate enough money.
They need to this 'were fining you to save lives ' b****cks and just tell it how it is, that it's the easiest way for them to make money.
There are plenty of better ways to improve road safety but I can't imagine how they'll be able to make money from any other campaign.
The Psychedelic Socialist
ClioSport Club Member
The way I see it:
- There are some spots on some roads, where excessive speed has been shown to cause accidents.
- Putting a f*ck-off, bright yellow camera in a well sighted position on that spot should reduce speed and reduce accidents.
- If you don't see the camera, then you deserve to be punished as you're clearly not paying attention
- Sneaking a camera van well out of the way or viewing over a ridiculous distance doesn't stop the driver going fast until after the fact, and therefore cannot be said to immediately improve safety
Out of interest, what makes you say that?
They are Police staff who are aiming a camera at cars and submitting those readings for enforcement. There is no need to take an officer away to do that task.
Short Norman
ClioSport Club Member
997 C4S
I live on a street in a 20 zone (because it's residential and there are schools) , it's used as a rat run along side the main road. 90% of the cars that go down our street are doing well over 30...w*****s (oh and usually on their phones). Can't understand why there isn't any speed bumps.
I can set of from our house and drive at the 20 limit and by the time I get t the end of the street there's a line of frustrated motorists behind me. I've seen people who have been driving at the limit stop, get out and have a go at the driver behind who's been tailgating them to give them the hurry up.
Oh and not once has there ever been and camera vans on the street. Some local bobby did come along once with a speed camera for locals to use as a bit of lip service after they had been complaining about speeding cars.
I can set of from our house and drive at the 20 limit and by the time I get t the end of the street there's a line of frustrated motorists behind me. I've seen people who have been driving at the limit stop, get out and have a go at the driver behind who's been tailgating them to give them the hurry up.
Oh and not once has there ever been and camera vans on the street. Some local bobby did come along once with a speed camera for locals to use as a bit of lip service after they had been complaining about speeding cars.
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
So true - absolutely bang on.
Usually they ride their brakes on anything resembling a downhill slant of tarmac - and my god, if a truck or a bus comes the other way, then it's an immediate drop from 21mph to 7mph.
If I time it wrong on the morning commute, I can end up following a woman in her Yaris Verso. Honestly, if I could legally use the Clio to ram the b**ch off the road, I wouldn't think twice. She brings a whole new meaning to the word 'dawdling' and at every set of lights, she's back on her mobile.
So, I can either blat past her in the local 50 Zone - often doing in excess of that in order to get in front of the bint. Or, I can add a further ten minutes to my commute while she pootles along in her carefree world with a queue of twenty cars behind her. Logic and sanity say the former is the better option - arsewipes and the law will go tut-tut and say she's doing nothing wrong.
In my book, she is. By breathing.
EFA.
And not even trying to make you rage, I got caught a few weeks back on the M1 on a temporary gantry at 2am in the morning!
Sunglasses_Ron
ClioSport Admin
It always puzzles me when people complain about getting caught breaking the law.
I've been caught a couple of times over the years and never felt the urge to try and blame the gatso/camera van
I've been caught a couple of times over the years and never felt the urge to try and blame the gatso/camera van
Sunglasses_Ron
ClioSport Admin
Those types of speeds could land him in court for dangerous driving.
Dangerous driving conviction = sack.
Clio 197,with megan'
Hard to believe i know, but i stick to the speed limits, but do six or seven track days a year, where i do go slightly quicker!.
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Nobody really has an excuse for being caught by a fixed camera.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
If I got caught by either a fixed or mobile camera I'd blame nothing other than myself for a) willingly going over the posted speed limit and b) not being alert enough to spot the camera/van.
As said by a few others I can't think of a single reason that I would ever feel the need to try and put that blame onto someone else.
I was the one behind the wheel with my feet on the pedals and I should also have had my eyes open.
The end.
As said by a few others I can't think of a single reason that I would ever feel the need to try and put that blame onto someone else.
I was the one behind the wheel with my feet on the pedals and I should also have had my eyes open.
The end.
Advikaz
ClioSport Club Member
Don't think anyone is trying to blame anyone else
Just because something has been made a law, doesn't mean it's automatically the right thing to do.
There's some seriously stupid laws. Just makes me laugh that they're so hot on speeding, even slightly when they seem to not give a f**k about a lot of others..
It's an easy conviction, and easy money.
The government are public servants and are supposed to act for us. I wonder if there was a vote on speed cameras how many would want them..
Especially mobile vans.
Just because something has been made a law, doesn't mean it's automatically the right thing to do.
There's some seriously stupid laws. Just makes me laugh that they're so hot on speeding, even slightly when they seem to not give a f**k about a lot of others..
It's an easy conviction, and easy money.
The government are public servants and are supposed to act for us. I wonder if there was a vote on speed cameras how many would want them..
Especially mobile vans.
A couple of bottles of single malt on the right desks fixed that tough, surely?
I see it as sad that the full-on traffic police are so few and far between. The motoring industry must be showing a marked decrease in replacement rear tail-light clusters
Anyway. Never had a ticket. Can't say I've never gone above 70, we all have.
But since almost getting the shaft for Dangerous driving, I've not been one to try and "make time" anymore.
The Psychedelic Socialist
ClioSport Club Member
Yeah, but if you know the limit is the limit, no matter how stupid you feel it is, you have to take personal responsibility when breaking it.
Ones that make me laugh locally:
https://goo.gl/maps/diHXgy5hbUE2 - This is a NSL road. Unmarked and with oblivious tourists wandering into traffic all summer
https://goo.gl/maps/PmmK5JG1RVz - This is a 30mph road, because reasons.
Ones that make me laugh locally:
https://goo.gl/maps/diHXgy5hbUE2 - This is a NSL road. Unmarked and with oblivious tourists wandering into traffic all summer
https://goo.gl/maps/PmmK5JG1RVz - This is a 30mph road, because reasons.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
The same could be said of many laws. And be equally nonsensical.
Advikaz
ClioSport Club Member
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
You think laws should be decided by voting?
