Hsustyle's Flamer 172

[hsustyle]

I'm back ?

Some of you might remember my ph1 I sold a few months back. Loved it but fancied a change.

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Then came a lovely 306 Gti-6.
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Not as quick or capable as I remember so I flipped it and bought a Corolla T Sport. ? Fun engine but wow, terrible chassis, terrible Gearing.
It had to go, will make a lovely car for someone who hasn't driven a nice chassis!
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I needed a bit more Renaultsport!
Say hello to my new ph2 Flamer.

90k miles
Belts 2015
Lots of new bits end of last year
Nov 2017

Engine
Custom stainless exhaust, catback
Subtle and not too loud

Suspension 10/17
Cup dampers front & rear
Gram sport springs
Eibach camber bolts
Evol dogmount

Brakes 11/17
Ebc yellow stuff pads
Braided brake lines

Valeo clutch 11/17

It also has
Factory sat nav

To do -
Exterior
Fabia splitter
Cup spoiler
Wheel spacers
Gloss black wheels
Gloss black bullets, red writing

Engine -
182 manifold & ktec decat link pipe
Ph1 airbox
Rs lower inlet
Uprated ht leads
Engine Dynamics remap

Suspension -
172 Cup subframe, polybush Cup wishbones and Arb
Whiteline rear arb
Solid top mounts

Interior -
Lower standard seat mod
Lower steering column mod
Snappy Steering wheel
BMS Shifter
Yannoo brass bushes

Plans plans plans, basically recreate my old ph1 in spec as that was great to drive

Waiting for rain to stop so I can fit Fabia splitter and new Kangoo top engine mount.

And so it begins.

Comments welcome

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[hsustyle]

Goddam Flickr account.. Will fix pics soon

 

[Danith]

nice colour. what do think you think compared to the ph1? I found the ph2 a bit cheaper build wise and less clunky/ more plasticky gearchange

Would take a flamer though. What didn't you like about the Corolla?

 

[Daz.]

Flamers are sex.

 

[imprezaworks]

binning the tints?

 

[RIC172]

I bet it’s good to get another 172! I have considered Corolla T Sports in the past before but the gearing and woolly chassis has put me off too. Interesting you got rid of the 306 GTI-6 though as they are great fun to drive and similar in performance to a 172.

 

[hsustyle]

I bet it’s good to get another 172! I have considered Corolla T Sports in the past before but the gearing and woolly chassis has put me off too. Interesting you got rid of the 306 GTI-6 though as they are great fun to drive and similar in performance to a 172.

The 6 had a lovely engine and the gearbox was a joy but it needed a new rear beam so handling was far from good!

 

[RIC172]

The 6 had a lovely engine and the gearbox was a joy but it needed a new rear beam so handling was far from good!

Lol, oh I see. Yeah a friend had one of these and it did feel very rapid. The gearbox really helped. I don’t think the handling was as good as the 172 mind, and there wasn’t any issues with his. Still great fun though, and his 200,000 mile example upset a lot of quick cars at track days

 

[hsustyle]

nice colour. what do think you think compared to the ph1? I found the ph2 a bit cheaper build wise and less clunky/ more plasticky gearchange

Would take a flamer though. What didn't you like about the Corolla?

Ph1 definitely felt better put together. But it's not had at all, nice surprise to find nearly all the suspension is new.
The corolla had a spongey chassis, not much steering feel and the gears were designed so bad. There was no way to stay in 'lift' between 1st and second gear and would drop out between the rest of the gears unless bounced off the limiter and shifted fast. The power just wasn't accessible, so frustrating!

Started every time, ran like a dream and not a single rattle, definitely one of the more comfy cars I owned. Oh and the Facebook owners club.. Wow, total bunch of idiots, I thought Cliosport Facebook page was bad ?

 

[hsustyle]

I knew I was back in the right car when I got to the first roundabout. Renault really nailed it with the chassis!

Hope these pics work.

Flamer by Amin Abdalla

Flamer by Amin Abdalla

Flamer by Amin Abdalla

 

[Jekyll]

Yep pics now work.

So when you selling/breaking this one? And of the month? ?

 

[hsustyle]

Yep pics now work.

So when you selling/breaking this one? And of the month? ?

? I need to stick to one car. Gutted I sold the ph1 to be honest. It was running like a dream and I had done everything I wanted to it.. Silly me.

I got this lull of nostalgia with the 306,it just handled so bad due to warn rear beam that I quickly lost interest. Anyway, I'm back, the new 172 is lovely and I'll try to stick it out a bit longer. Lots planned!

 

[Jekyll]

Haha, only joking ?

Good to hear mate. What's the deal with the brass bushes in the BMS?

 

[hsustyle]

Haha, only joking ?

Good to hear mate. What's the deal with the brass bushes in the BMS?

Yanoo on here sells them for the 1*2 /scenic /bms set up. €8 for a pair of brass bushes that replace the plastic bushes at the bottom of tbe gearstick where it connects to the long gear selector rod underneath the car. Makes a nice difference sharpening the gear feel up! Definitely worth the money

 

[Clio_fool]

Looks a decent flamer you've found there. What's the ride like on the grams springs? I'm fancying a change but can't decide on different springs or go balls deep and get coilovers.

 

[Jekyll]

Yanoo on here sells them for the 1*2 /scenic /bms set up. €8 for a pair of brass bushes that replace the plastic bushes at the bottom of tbe gearstick where it connects to the long gear selector rod underneath the car. Makes a nice difference sharpening the gear feel up! Definitely worth the money

Ah perfect. Cheap mod.

I have the same kit and i wanted to change the bushes as I wasn t too sure how old they was. I will give him a message later on. Thanks.

 

[hsustyle]

Looks a decent flamer you've found there. What's the ride like on the grams springs? I'm fancying a change but can't decide on different springs or go balls deep and get coilovers.

Im really impressed. I was looking at going with Cooksports again but the ride and drop on these is on par.

 

[imprezaworks]

Did hear they were very similar to cooksports

 

[Clio_fool]

Im really impressed. I was looking at going with Cooksports again but the ride and drop on these is on par.

Are they as stiff as cooksports? I read they are a bit more progressive, I'm finding the cooksports a bit hard as the roads get worse and bumpier.

 

[hsustyle]

Are they as stiff as cooksports? I read they are a bit more progressive, I'm finding the cooksports a bit hard as the roads get worse and bumpier.

Hmm I really don't know. I had a whiteline arb on my others and other mods so this does feel a bit softer over bumps. I think.. I'm impressed thou.

 

[hsustyle]

And the problem begin.

I had a slight coolant drip. Looked like it was the big coolant pipe. I replaced this and turns out it's the bottom of the actual Rad. We poured some Kseal in the Rad till My Nissens replaced comes in.

Sat Nav

It speaks to me but the display is blank. Tried everything but still no joy so I'll try to find a new screen.


Horrible clicking /bang noise
I get a massive clonk /knock when going into reverse. Then I got into first and it fine, back into reverse and clonk again.
It does it when coming on and off throttle too. All engine mounts are pretty much brand new and torqued up right.

So I think it's inside the box or the OS driveshaft splines worn on the driveshaft where it slots on the gearbox. I belive it might be skipping a bit? Hard to explain but I saw a similar post on here with that being the culprit.

I fitted Fabia splitter and my black pov spec dial surround.
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[hsustyle]

Progress!

Ordered a new driveshaft, had a feeling the splines on the sleeve part were worn, causing them to slip /skip, resulting in this horrible knock /clicking noise.
All sorted now, drives without any issues now.
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Old

DSC_1244 by Amin Abdalla, on Flickr

New
DSC_1246 by Amin Abdalla, on Flickr

Also ordered a new radiator and have a lower Rs inlet on the way.

 

[Radugns]

Does that shaft fit? As I can see it is not the Renault one and I think you will got some issues with the inner boot. I replace my shaft about 4 time and the only way to proper install a shaft on the driver side was to use genuine one.

 

[hsustyle]

Does that shaft fit? As I can see it is not the Renault one and I think you will got some issues with the inner boot. I replace my shaft about 4 time and the only way to proper install a shaft on the driver side was to use genuine one.

Fits good but inner boot will run on a small tab on the engine black and spill all the grease. I used a cabletie around the boot and it tightened it enough to clear the block by a few mm. 200 miles in and it's still perfect with a good enough gap.

I chopped that small tab off the block on my last ph1, will do the same on this soon.

 

[hsustyle]

My sat nav decided to work for a few mins!

I was driving the car gently when the car totally died halfway around a corner. At the same time the sat nav screen flashed up!

The car then wouldn't start at first, cranking over but not firing up. I waited a couple of mins and it started?

Anyway, I have no idea what happened but tbe car dying seemed to fire up the sat nav display!

I input my address, moved off and the display went blank again! I can't seem to get it back.

Also, I had the engine oil topped up by my local mechanic last week and after 400 miles the dipstick indicted no oil and I got a service warning on the dash. 1l at least in just over a tank. At a very gentle 39mpg... Not good.

I then washed the car to cheer me up, cleans up well.
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[Radugns]

Fits good but inner boot will run on a small tab on the engine black and spill all the grease. I used a cabletie around the boot and it tightened it enough to clear the block by a few mm. 200 miles in and it's still perfect with a good enough gap.

I chopped that small tab off the block on my last ph1, will do the same on this soon.

That gap remains the same, if one time it is good it will always be. There were some guys that says engine mount could be the problem, lol.
Good you sort it out with this one.

 

[imprezaworks]

Oil usage is a bit worrying?

 

[Radugns]

Mine has 120k miles and uses only 600ml at 5k change interval. I think the stem seals are dead?
What oil are you using?

 

[Louis]

My clio used around 4 litres in 7k miles

 

[hsustyle]

Mine has 120k miles and uses only 600ml at 5k change interval. I think the stem seals are dead?
What oil are you using?

I use shell helix ultra 5w/40 fully synth..will keep a close eye on this.

 

[Radugns]

I use shell helix ultra 5w/40 fully synth..will keep a close eye on this.

And change interval? Mine uses only after 3k miles.

 

[hsustyle]

And change interval? Mine uses only after 3k miles.

I've only had it la couple of weeks but has Service receipts for 2k miles ago and I've only just had it done again.

 

[hsustyle]

First break down!

Bogged down and won't start. Just cranks over,car is warm, have been diving for 20mins.

Will start after leaving it for 15mins but bogs down again when setting off.

Crank sensor? Throttle pedal?

2018-05-08_01-32-48 by Amin Abdalla, on Flickr

 

[Radugns]

The white wire from the engine starter could have a bad contact. The crank position sensor cause some missfires not just no start.

 

[hsustyle]

I left it for 30 mins and it fired up again. Got it home and haven't driven it since.

I've ordered a new Crank sensor and coolant temp sensor and go from there.

 

[Clio_fool]

Still wondering what it's worth? ? I'm sure you'll get to the bottom of these issues soon and be able to enjoy it.

 

[hsustyle]

Still wondering what it's worth? ? I'm sure you'll get to the bottom of these issues soon and be able to enjoy it.

Ha. Its all running spot on now after I fitted a few new bits-
New Radiator
New expansion bottle
New coolant temp sensor
New map sensor
New Crank sensor

Fitting a Whiteline rear arb tomorrow weather providing.

 

[leeds_182]

Ha. Its all running spot on now after I fitted a few new bits-
New Radiator
New expansion bottle
New coolant temp sensor
New map sensor
New Crank sensor

Fitting a Whiteline rear arb tomorrow weather providing.

Money pit.

It’ll be worth it in the end.

 

[hsustyle]

Money pit.

It’ll be worth it in the end.

Standard!
My Corolla had zero issues. This.. A fair few. Luckily I got a lot of spares and some issues have fixed themselves. Previous owner spent plenty on it ??

 

[STEVE.M]

Does that shaft fit? As I can see it is not the Renault one and I think you will got some issues with the inner boot. I replace my shaft about 4 time and the only way to proper install a shaft on the driver side was to use genuine one.

This one is still 100% 23k miles later.