Hey I didnt say I had 8 from it... I said from exhaust and induction feels like 5-8 for me....... Read this http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=6&TopicID=9819&SearchPagePosition=6&search=1%2E2+16v&searchMode=allwords&searchIn=Thread&forum=0&searchSort=dateDESC&ReturnPage=Searchhttp://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=6&TopicID=9819&SearchPagePosition=6&search=1%2E2+16v&searchMode=allwords&searchIn=Thread&forum=0&searchSort=dateDESC&ReturnPage=Search