Info Needed - Brembos

MarcB · Jul 7, 2015

Going to be fitting Brembo front callipers from a Megane 225 to the Trophy and I'm wondering the following questions.

1, What discs will i need to use & does anyone have a part number if OE ?
2, I already have braided brake lines but do i need longer ones from a 197/200 ?
3, What brembo brackets are better, Ebay ones or Puremotorsport ones ?
4, Whats the best pads to fit for standard road / fast road use ?

I already run 16" prima racing alloys with front spacers so clearance should not be an issue.

@George@RTR_Parts @Dan@SJM @Mike@Rentech can you shed any light on this please ?

Gus · Jul 7, 2015

1) standard discs or get 300mm scenic discs off george you have to buy bigger mounts for the 300mm ones BUT with the 300mm mounts you dont need to machine the calipers (much easier)
2) you will need new lines as they are different fitment. http://www.optimiz-access.fr/freinage/durites-aviation/durites-aviation-clio-2-rs-etrier-clio-3.html
buy them here, they are goodridge braided ones from France, perfect fit, dirt cheap (due to exchange rate) and takes a week or less for delivery. google chrome and right click to translate. if ordering england is rayaume unis on the order page (thank me later)
3 Pure motorsport ones are best as they are offset which means that the pad sweeps the entire disc surface as opposed to for example the standard 182 brakes which lave that unsightly rusty ring around the far edge, look at this pic to see what i mean:

means the whole disc is nice and shiney.

4) i run ds2500 and use the ceratec anti squeel kit off ebay - some anti squeel shims and brake pad goo. They stop extremely well and make no noise at all.

You will love the brembos they feel superb and you can vary brake pressure a lot more with them. You wont need a bigger master cylinder either.

You will need spacers though (min 10mm recommended if using et45 turinis (trophy ones)

You might also need to get your wheel weights moved and rebalanced if using the 300 kit.
see here ofr a bit more info
http://www.cliosport.net/threads/197-brembo-front-calipers.775333/#post-10767184

hope that helps marc

Gus · Jul 7, 2015

Forgot to say @George@rtr (<- dont know his name anymore G172 ) hooked me up with everything apart from the ceratec , his prices were really cheap as yu prolly know.
link to ceratec@
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mintex-Ce...030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c53fb919e

You may also need a pin kit unless you already have some
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENAULT-C...766?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cea432d1e

Gus · Jul 7, 2015

Easy to fit it all yourself , get some brake fluid off george and an eezibleed kit off halfords, takes an hour per side plus 45 mins to bleed. I can guide you if needed.

SharkyUK · Jul 8, 2015

optical said:
You will need spacers though (min 10mm recommended if using et45 turinis (trophy ones)

Is this absolutely right mate? I'm hearing conflicting messages. My Brembo kit is being delivered in the next day or two and I was led to believe that I would not need spacers running the standard Trophy Turinis... if this is the case then I will have to buy some.

Cheers!

MarcB · Jul 8, 2015

@SharkyUK i was on the phone to PureMotorsport today and they said there kit fitted perfectly with "Cup" Turini alloys as they are a different ET to the Trophy ones.
With this I'm guessing that they prob will need spacers, I also have my Prima Racing alloys and i have no idea what ET these are 😊

I spoke directly with @optical today and he gave me all the help i needed so all i need to get now is the following.

Renault Scenic Front 300mm Discs
Pure Motorsport Mounting Kit
197/200 Braided Front Brake Lines
Front Brake Pads

Gus · Jul 8, 2015

SharkyUK said:
Is this absolutely right mate? I'm hearing conflicting messages. My Brembo kit is being delivered in the next day or two and I was led to believe that I would not need spacers running the standard Trophy Turinis... if this is the case then I will have to buy some. :smile: Cheers!

let me go and measure....

Gus · Jul 8, 2015

I use ET 45 Turinis (trophy turinis)
I have 16mm spacers:

and there is a 12 mm gap at the shortest point between the wheel and the caliper.

Here is an old pic when i first fitted the kit.
you can see the inside wheel weights foul the caliper so you will have to get the weights moved to the middle of the wheel and rebalanced.

Cant stress how awesome the brembo brakes are though !

SharkyUK · Jul 8, 2015

MarcR™ said:
@SharkyUK i was on the phone to PureMotorsport today and they said there kit fitted perfectly with "Cup" Turini alloys as they are a different ET to the Trophy ones.
With this I'm guessing that they prob will need spacers, I also have my Prima Racing alloys and i have no idea what ET these are 😊

Cheers Marc

optical said:
let me go and measure....

Thanks for doing that mate, appreciate it. It looks like I'll probably go ahead and buy some Eibach Pro hubcentric spacers in that case (or similar).

Thanks both!

MarcB · Jul 9, 2015

Today I picked up the following -

Front pad fitting kit - £6.00
Front 300mm discs & pads -£55.00
Braided 197 brake lines - £40.00

All that's left is the brackets from puremotorsport @ £190 odd
And the full refurb from Pro Calipers in London

Dannyeff · Jul 10, 2015

MarcR™ said:
Today I picked up the following -

Front pad fitting kit - £6.00
Front 300mm discs & pads -£55.00
Braided 197 brake lines - £40.00

All that's left is the brackets from puremotorsport @ £190 odd
And the full refurb from Pro Calipers in London

190 for brackets? ooft they better be worth that

MarcB · Jul 10, 2015

Dannyeff said:
190 for brackets? ooft they better be worth that :blush:

Kyle beresford · Jul 10, 2015

Good little thread that's answered a few questions I wanted clearing up,looking at getting the pure Motorsport set up myself for my trophy

MarcB · Jul 10, 2015

I have spent hardly anything if I'm being honest.

Calipers = £155
197 Hoses = £40
Pads & Discs = £55
Fitting Kit = £6.00

Callipers Brackets = £195
Full Refurb & Powder Coating will cost me £380

Total = £831

This is a lot cheaper than the Pure Motorsport full Kit @ £1145 saving me £314

Kyle beresford · Jul 10, 2015

That's a good saving,might do the same,could break up the cost over a couple of months and hope the wife doesn't notice!

dablk · Jul 11, 2015

Nice mods as ever Marc.

Gmj92 · Jul 11, 2015

Where did you get discs and pads from for those brakes at that price?

MarcB · Jul 13, 2015

Small Update on this.

Managed to get my Pad fitting kit and the Clio 3 197/200 front brake lines.
Pad kit was £6.00 all in
Brake lines where £40 all in including postage from france and they are genuine goodridge lines also.

markoc · Jul 13, 2015

Coming along nicely! Another nice upgrade for the Trophy.
What colour will you be getting the calipers done?

BGEarles · Jul 13, 2015

Nice upgrade [emoji4]

MarcB · Jul 13, 2015

They will be just like this as they are getting sent to london to get refurbished and powder coated.

http://pro-calipers.co.uk/gallery/nggallery/page/2

George@RTR_Parts · Jul 14, 2015

I was away when you tagged me @MarcR™ , looks like you have got sorted now mate

optical said:
Forgot to say @George@rtr (<- dont know his name anymore G172 ) hooked me up with everything apart from the ceratec , his prices were really cheap as you probably know.

@George@RTR_Parts Gus

cheers!

MarcB · Jul 14, 2015

@George@RTR_Parts

I might still be at you for some bits & bobs mate :up:

MarcB · Jul 14, 2015

@The Russian.

Got the callipers today :up::tongueout:

@SharkyUK who done your refurb and how much was it ? Can you PM me details ?

The Russian. · Jul 14, 2015

Try A lad called Stephen vending on 197.net mate he does a great job and not to dear.

George@RTR_Parts · Jul 14, 2015

MarcR™ said:
@George@RTR_Parts

I might still be at you for some bits & bobs mate :up:

No worries mate, you know where I am if you want anything :up:

Just didn't want you to think I'd ignored you initially

- Fiona - · Aug 20, 2015

Looking good MarcR!

Anyone know what spacers are needed for cup turinis?

NorthloopCup · Aug 20, 2015

- Fiona - said:
Looking good MarcR!

Anyone know what spacers are needed for cup turinis?

If it's cup turinis you'll get away without any spacers.

MarcB · Sep 27, 2015

Small thread update.

Bermbos are now back after a full refurbishment and being powder coated red.

Unsure who the yellow ones belong too

NorthloopCup · Sep 27, 2015

MarcR™ said:
Small thread update.

Bermbos are now back after a full refurbishment and being powder coated red.

Unsure who the yellow ones belong too

Looks good! Mine are away for a small machining job. :up:

Mr Plums · Sep 28, 2015

They look great.

StuOwen86 · Sep 28, 2015

They look very nice now they're all done, pity these wont fit under 15" wheels they would be ok for track car.

NorthloopCup · Sep 29, 2015

StuOwen86 said:
They look very nice now they're all done, pity these wont fit under 15" wheels they would be ok for track car.

They will fit under certain 15's, but you'll need spacers.

gambit · Sep 29, 2015

Very nice silver decals

StuOwen86 · Sep 29, 2015

NorthloopCup said:
They will fit under certain 15's, but you'll need spacers.

Hmm that's good to know, I run 2118 and some BK Racing multi-fit that were on the car when I bought it and have some OZ F1 in the shed waiting for me to decide what tyre's to put on them lol would be interested in a set of these if some came up cheap (will have to let my local breakers yard who's a friend of my dad's know if any 197's come in smashed up I want the calipers CHEAP lol doubt I would bother with a powdercoat though for track use so save a bit there)

NorthloopCup · Sep 29, 2015

StuOwen86 said:
Hmm that's good to know, I run 2118 and some BK Racing multi-fit that were on the car when I bought it and have some OZ F1 in the shed waiting for me to decide what tyre's to put on them lol would be interested in a set of these if some came up cheap (will have to let my local breakers yard who's a friend of my dad's know if any 197's come in smashed up I want the calipers CHEAP lol doubt I would bother with a powdercoat though for track use so save a bit there)

They will fit under 2118's from what I've seen mate, but you'll need to run 280mm discs. The only person that offers the brackets for the 280 conversion is Chris Powell on here, but I don't think he's doing anymore for the time being.
I'm having mine custom made.

Cub. · Sep 29, 2015

StuOwen86 said:
They look very nice now they're all done, pity these wont fit under 15" wheels they would be ok for track car.

NorthloopCup said:
They will fit under certain 15's, but you'll need spacers.

Indeed they will. Here are mine, with 16mm spacers, machined and with the roll centre kit and 15" Willys wheels. They won't go under OZ F1s. They go under TD 1.2 and 2118s with the right offset. With the track mine is now running, it has needed a very tight set up to stop it rubbing and also the clearances between the caliper and wheel is minimal. Like 1mm kind of minimal......