Intermittent starting problems

[azz00]

Hi everyone.

My car intermittently starts, and it seems to be getting worse.

From what I have searched, I am looking at the TDC sensor.

But, my car doesn't turn over at all, should my car still turn over if it was a faulty TDC sensor?

I put the keys in, all of the lights come on and go off as they should, go to start the engine and nothing...

Could it be anything else? As I have tried cleaning the sensor a few times with no luck.

Cheers.

 

[syko6288]

i had a problem in my 206 and it was starter motor give it a hit then try

 

[hipwell]

yeh that probelm is definatly not the tdc sensor, if it was that the engine would turn over but just not fire. I had that on my old 1.2 once and gave it a clean then tried an it was fine for another 2 years.

like the other guy said starter motor maybe.

 

[azz00]

Well, hit it with a hammer and it works again lol.

Not sure if it will stay working but we will see.

Cheers for the advice.

 

[BRUN]

when you turn the key does it click ?

 

[azz00]

when you turn the key does it click ?

Yeah it does.

 

[crazystu21]

ive just had a similar problem, got home, got out to open the garage now it wont start..........altho i have just had to drive through a huge puddle...........any ideas??

 

[azz00]

Apparently the hitting with a hammer was only a temporary fix.

Any other ideas?

 

[rich-6]

Starters funked! 100%

 

[Tigger]

Mine does this "once in a blue moon"
Last time - I went to a mates, was in his place 5 mins - went back out to the car and NOTHING when I turned the key, not even clicking.

Made a few phone calls but I was told to look for a bad earth or check the immobiliser

Had nothing with me to check anything so I locked the car, left it a few minutes and tried again - started as normal and has been fine since.

A friend that has worked on/owned lots of Renault's said the immobiliser was out of sync - and it's a common problem.

 

[sideways danny]

starter motors can mostly be revived for a fair period of time by stripping down and cleaning out the solenoid. It's normally due to heat that the grease becomes very sticky and stops free movement

 

[azz00]

Hmmmm, fair enough I will take it out and get it cleaned out.

@Tigger, how much would I be looking at for something like to be fixed?

 

[clio_Ro]

i've got the same problem with my cup. parked it up and now it wont start.

is there anyway to reset the alarm/immobiliser?

 

[Tigger]

Mine did it again tonight - only went to pick up a kebab lol

Locked it again and unlocked - fine again :S

 

[azz00]

Mine did it again tonight - only went to pick up a kebab lol

Locked it again and unlocked - fine again :S

lol mine did it again today aswell, just outside the local post office

Time to get it took out, does anyone have a guide on how to get it out?

 

[Tigger]

Get what out? lol

 

[azz00]

Get what out? lol

The starter motor

 

[Tigger]

Ahh, no idea lol

 

[jenko]

Ice got the same problem sometimes I go to start it it turns over just doesn't fire up nightmare been playing up recently I thought it could have been the injectors where is this sensor located and what tungs can I do myself to try and sort the problem out

 

[Tigger]

Where is the connector on the starter motor located that people usually replace for this problem?

 

[azz00]

Where is the connector on the starter motor located that people usually replace for this problem?

Right on top of it, I managed to get it took out today, sanded down some connections and cleaned the solenoid, hopefully it should sort it but we will see. :rasp:

 

[Tigger]

Easy to get at, on a 172 engine we're talking here? lol

 

[Tigger]

Thought mine was fine again until yesterday

Started the car, and went to move off it cut out, then wouldn't start at all for about 10mins

If it's not starter motor connections what else can I look for?

 

[Tigger]

I got into the car again today and the feckin thing wouldn't start. It would turn over but not fire up

Took 3 attempts to get it going, along with pumping the accelerator which seemed to help it :S

 

[caister]

I got into the car again today and the feckin thing wouldn't start. It would turn over but not fire up

Took 3 attempts to get it going, along with pumping the accelerator which seemed to help it :S

This sounds like the key fob battery to me. Mines been having similar issues and a new key fob battery solved it. It cant have been disabling the immobiliser properly.

 

[Tigger]

Ahh simple solution - I hope! lol

Will try that tomorrow

 

[caister]

Always worth a try. Cheapest thing first and all that!

 

[Tigger]

Wasn't the Key - I couldn't even get the dam thing open tried the spare key - it didn't work either!

So I rocked the car, jumped in & tried it again with the "everyday" key.
A bit hard to do with a lowered car lol but it feckin worked!

Sticky solenoid in the starter apparently - anyone had that before?

 

[azz00]

Wasn't the Key - I couldn't even get the dam thing open tried the spare key - it didn't work either!

So I rocked the car, jumped in & tried it again with the "everyday" key.
A bit hard to do with a lowered car lol but it feckin worked!

Sticky solenoid in the starter apparently - anyone had that before?

Sorry mate, I had unsubscribed from the thread,

I had to take the starter off on mine and clean the solenoid as well. It seems to have worked so far. Touch wood!

 

[Tigger]

No worries - is that easily done?

 

[azz00]

No worries - is that easily done?

Yeah it is mate. 2 bolts holding the starter on. Starter then comes off. Then 2 torx screws to get to the solenoid.

 

[Tigger]

Might get time to give that a clean today then while the car is in the air getting top-mounts replaced and brakes checked

It's behind the exhaust heat-shield though isn't it?

 

[Tigger]

If this random problem is the starter/solenoid.... should jump-starting the car not work? :S

This is actually pissing me off now - usually mine went if I rocked the car lol - now nothing, no crank, clicking or strange lights on dash - silence!

 

[Tigger]

Anyone know how I can get mine going to get to a mechanics? :S