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Iv been hussled!
- Thread starter Jimmybs
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Ok just rang mechanic and he said engine number or a number is behind the oil dipstick and on the front of the Engine block! It was covered in oil but i scrubed it a little and think i made out either
D345101155 or 0345101155
On V5 it says engine number is CB220F
And the VIN/Chassis/Frame No on the logbook is the same as the one on the sticker which is on the driver door side, which i presume was put on there out of the factory! I dont know where else to look for any numbers but the one I found behind the dipstick looks nothing like any numbers on my V5!
Anybody else with a bit more knowledge could you help!
Cheers
D345101155 or 0345101155
On V5 it says engine number is CB220F
And the VIN/Chassis/Frame No on the logbook is the same as the one on the sticker which is on the driver door side, which i presume was put on there out of the factory! I dont know where else to look for any numbers but the one I found behind the dipstick looks nothing like any numbers on my V5!
Anybody else with a bit more knowledge could you help!
Cheers
One other thing the previous owner
He only bought the cr on the 21/02/2008 and then sold it to me in april which is 2 months later!
He said it was cause he was to big for it! He was a huge bodybuilder type guy nd I could understand the reason and car looked in good condition so i thought fair enough!
Anyway try help me guys please!
He only bought the cr on the 21/02/2008 and then sold it to me in april which is 2 months later!
He said it was cause he was to big for it! He was a huge bodybuilder type guy nd I could understand the reason and car looked in good condition so i thought fair enough!
Anyway try help me guys please!
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m-tec bmw 325 ci spo
elllo mate i know how you feel tbh i bought a 172 last july and have had 4 new engines since then and ive only just got it mint
best thing to do is go on that ebay link above and order the bits you need because there piss cheap on there and get your mechnic to fit it.
but first of all id run it to a renault specialist like ktec/rentech/gdi/yozzasport get them to check it all out first before doing anything these renaults are quite tappy and if its running good a pulling like a train i dont see how the head and cams etc are fucked tbh
best thing to do is go on that ebay link above and order the bits you need because there piss cheap on there and get your mechnic to fit it.
but first of all id run it to a renault specialist like ktec/rentech/gdi/yozzasport get them to check it all out first before doing anything these renaults are quite tappy and if its running good a pulling like a train i dont see how the head and cams etc are fucked tbh
A Flamin' Red one
What he said! Follow my link and start crossing those fingers.
A Flamin' Red one
Mikey_172. Just noticed you're in Surrey?! Where for art thou?
lol is that the best you can come up with.
I expect you're the type that thinks that if you walk into a shop and they have priced something wrong you can demand to have it at that price ..... its also total b*** ****!
Offer + Acceptance = legally binding contract
'Invitation to Treat' means that by entering the shop you are offering to buy the goods and so no contract exists until the shop expresses acceptance.
The reason people think the opposite is because generally a gesture of goodwill is far easier than a public confrontation.
You're the mug mate .... typical keyboard warrior defending something YOU clearly know nothing about.
The simple fact is the vehicle wasn't as described!! (can you understand that simple statement?)
If the advert clearly states the mileage as being 44k and the engine has done nearer 100k it will be blatantly obvious with a simple inspection and so easy to prove.
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index...les.htm#Thevehiclewasboughtfromaprivateseller
The CAB website clearly says the same... go and tell them they're wrong :rasp:
Its not like we're talking a £200 banger its £5.5k.
Its people like you that get ripped off day in day out and always take the lazy and easy route.
Mini Cooper S sport
Pfff can't be arsed to argue. You have far less comeback on a private sale, the onus is on the buyer to check the goods out before buying them.
Oh - nice attitude btw.
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Exactly my point... LESS COMEBACK.. not NO COMEBACK as you were stating.
Its not about the buyer checking over the condition of the car.
If the car has been sold in good faith with a genuine 44k on the clock as advertised then no law has been broken. The vehicle was as described and it would just be a case of bad luck
However apparently this car was advertised as having 44k and the mechanic is saying its a different engine/ with nearly double the mileage.... a totally different scenario.
Its not about the buyer checking over the condition of the car.
If the car has been sold in good faith with a genuine 44k on the clock as advertised then no law has been broken. The vehicle was as described and it would just be a case of bad luck
However apparently this car was advertised as having 44k and the mechanic is saying its a different engine/ with nearly double the mileage.... a totally different scenario.
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Mini Cooper S sport
You don't come across as a very nice person, you know (I'm putting that politely).
As I said, I can't be bothered to argue. You'll have a VERY hard time trying to get your money back in a private sale situation - as someone in this thread has said from their own experience using a solicitor.
Anyway, your "I MUST PROVE MYSELF RIGHT" rantings have hi-jacked the thread.
So to the thread starter - good luck mate, keep us updated.
Almost mate. In brief, an invitation to treat is where the shop displaying the item, you make them an offer by offering them the advertised price. They accept your offer by taking your money.
Right don't get me wrong here, I don't mean this as an attack. I appreciate you won't have studied law at all really, but a lot of stuff you are saying is fundamentally very wrong.
I think the one thing you're forgetting is the commercial reality of it all. Is it worth litigating, which involves wasting £1,000 on court fees and retaining a solicitor (easily done) when the work required is not worth much more? In case you've not been following the gist of litigation at the moment. If it was pointless bringing the action (as it would be), the mag (or judge) will effectively tell you to sod off. Even looking into how you can get money back is a waste of time.
My advice Dan, in the nicest possible way; stick to numbers.
lol is that the best you can come up with.
I expect you're the type that thinks that if you walk into a shop and they have priced something wrong you can demand to have it at that price ..... its also total b*** ****!
No sorry, you must be confusing me with someone else.
Offer + Acceptance = legally binding contract
'Invitation to Treat' means that by entering the shop you are offering to buy the goods and so no contract exists until the shop expresses acceptance.
The reason people think the opposite is because generally a gesture of goodwill is far easier than a public confrontation.
You're the mug mate .... typical keyboard warrior defending something YOU clearly know nothing about.
ok, i'm a keyboard warrior. you got me.
The simple fact is the vehicle wasn't as described!! (can you understand that simple statement?)
If the advert clearly states the mileage as being 44k and the engine has done nearer 100k it will be blatantly obvious with a simple inspection and so easy to prove.
just out of sheer curiosity and seeing as you seem to know everything and i know nothing, what if the previous owner had no idea of any of this? what happens then?
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index...les.htm#Thevehiclewasboughtfromaprivateseller
The CAB website clearly says the same... go and tell them they're wrong :rasp:
Its not like we're talking a £200 banger its £5.5k.
Its people like you that get ripped off day in day out and always take the lazy and easy route.
i'm not wrong, i'm giving my opinion and IMO the OP will find it incredibly difficult to get any kind of compensation from this... quite a few others think the same but hey, WE'RE all the misinformed lazy ones right?!
dan.clio.
Lol whilst you appear to have a comprehensive knowledge of consumer rights etc you obviously don't have alot of experience in the 2nd hand car industry.
As I said previously how do you prove that the seller knew the engine had been changed, where did the 100k come from? Its impossible to pinpoint exactly how many miles an engine has done even if you stripped it down which would be a very labour intensive process.
Lol whilst you appear to have a comprehensive knowledge of consumer rights etc you obviously don't have alot of experience in the 2nd hand car industry.
As I said previously how do you prove that the seller knew the engine had been changed, where did the 100k come from? Its impossible to pinpoint exactly how many miles an engine has done even if you stripped it down which would be a very labour intensive process.
He doesn't. It's googled knowledge
I was wondering this too - 100k is quite pretty heavy going for a 4 year old car (I know some people do, but it's unusual). My 172's only done about 44k, but it feels a bit baggy sometimes...
Clio MK 4
If it a private sale you can do nothing
you just completely contradicted yourself there!
you say the seller has to prove he's innocent but then say its your word against his, which ultimately means nothing will come of it.
you cannot prove the seller new about the "supposed" clocked/swapped engine.
Ultra 197 ex 172 Cup
you can just do this from dvla website if you have last mot cert, and chassis no. but i doubt it will be different as the car probably has the original speedo, why change the engine and speedo, just change the engine.
TBH, the mechanic could me wrong, alot of HP or lease companies mark up engine parts and bits of the body so they can inspect car when it is returnned for damage that hasn't been declared to them, ie if a wing is replaced and dosn't have the hp or lease companys secret mark on it, they will want money from you
White R26/Stripped Valver
If the defendant has no defence he is presumed guilty, but if he does defend himself then its his word against yours and the judge decides in favour of who has the stronger arguement. Wheres the contradiction?
Wow. Another person chatting s**t.
hit the nail on the end Gumby.
Cue
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is the sqabbling about law helping this guy's problem?
at the end of the day as has been said many times.. proving anything will be neh on impossible, it'll cost a fortune to pursue, even in the small claims court and at best you'd recover only a percentage of the value of the car - of which you've already spent £1k. At worst you may open up can of worms that may have you loosing your money and car.... if the engine is the wrong engine, then who knows the history?
if the value is only £4.5k i'd be thinking of turning it into either a track car or breaking it for parts as to sell it on honestly now would see you loosing more money.
at the end of the day as has been said many times.. proving anything will be neh on impossible, it'll cost a fortune to pursue, even in the small claims court and at best you'd recover only a percentage of the value of the car - of which you've already spent £1k. At worst you may open up can of worms that may have you loosing your money and car.... if the engine is the wrong engine, then who knows the history?
if the value is only £4.5k i'd be thinking of turning it into either a track car or breaking it for parts as to sell it on honestly now would see you loosing more money.
I think the squabbling actually comes from the people who fail to realise that not everything they see or hear (or google) is true
mate, take a step back and chill for a minute, there is a high chance that the dots are just quality checks, I worked in quality at Bentley for 6 months and we use dots etc when we did checks on cars, usually to show if something has been tourqued up correctly etc.
As for the engine sounding like a bag of crap, get the numbers checked, once you are happy (hopefully) that the engine is the correct one, get it down to some one who will give it a good once over, there is a high chance like mentioned before that some one has put the wrong oil etc. or it could of been so over due a service and a clean that it needs a bit of work.
As for the engine sounding like a bag of crap, get the numbers checked, once you are happy (hopefully) that the engine is the correct one, get it down to some one who will give it a good once over, there is a high chance like mentioned before that some one has put the wrong oil etc. or it could of been so over due a service and a clean that it needs a bit of work.
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