Wouldn't say it was shocking. Anything without forced induction is always going to cost more vs fewer gains but turbo's arn't the be all and end all. They have their own hurdles, lag, mpg etc etc
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JMS RS2 before and after results
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Wouldn't say it was shocking. Anything without forced induction is always going to cost more vs fewer gains but turbo's arn't the be all and end all. They have their own hurdles, lag, mpg etc etc
Evo 5 RS
ffs, stop comparing turbo engines to NA tuning..
Everyone knows it's a money pit comparison to Jim Bob's 54 plate Cupra R. Nobody gives a flying fcuk! lol Just sick of people comparing the two. If you like cars you'll appreciate both routes
Nobody's asking you to go out and buy anything
/msg mongs
Everyone knows it's a money pit comparison to Jim Bob's 54 plate Cupra R. Nobody gives a flying fcuk! lol Just sick of people comparing the two. If you like cars you'll appreciate both routes
Nobody's asking you to go out and buy anything
/msg mongs
172 cup, Impreza P1
Interesting views from both sides of the fence but I fancy going down the RS2 route myself.
A couple of questions though:
1) has anyone fitted cams yet with it and what were the results?
2) is an open cone filter the best filter that could be used? Would it not benefit from closed or ram filter?
3) are they easy enough to fit DIY?
Cheers for any thoughts and don't want to start the debate of save your money blah blah blah. Lol
A couple of questions though:
1) has anyone fitted cams yet with it and what were the results?
2) is an open cone filter the best filter that could be used? Would it not benefit from closed or ram filter?
3) are they easy enough to fit DIY?
Cheers for any thoughts and don't want to start the debate of save your money blah blah blah. Lol
182
Is this really possible Fred?meh, standard engine with 200bhp (yes really) coming soon
172 cup, Impreza P1
1) Yes cams have been fitted, and gained a few bhp and lost a lot of torque from what we seen - bear in mind the inlet was designed for a standard engine - it was not designed for cams.
2) Im sure JMS tried a lot of different filters and found that ot be the best, but might be worth PM'ing the ex members of JMS to find out
3) Yes, iirc - inlets off, new inlet manifold on, then airbox on - bear in mind you need stronger engine mounts
2) Im sure JMS tried a lot of different filters and found that ot be the best, but might be worth PM'ing the ex members of JMS to find out
3) Yes, iirc - inlets off, new inlet manifold on, then airbox on - bear in mind you need stronger engine mounts
its "only" 100bhp per l, compare that to other engines and you'll see what i mean
Exactly Fred, though dont tell the yanks that - some are rocking 50bhp per ltr out of near 3times the cc
..but make a far better noise than a tinbox Clio!
This is myth, just B.S talking IMO
Clio 172 Phase 1
SEAT Ibiza SC FR
Replace the throttle body with a Dyson on reverse?
SEAT Ibiza SC FR
Evo 5 RS
Wish I had bloody V-Tec lol
lol
Megane RS 250
LY 220 Trophy+IB PH1
no boost is cheating!
extra air + extra fuel = winner
Hmmz is this "Bottled" power by any chance ?
RenaultSport 172
You forgot mapped and chipped!
LY 220 Trophy+IB PH1
SEAT Ibiza SC FR
Leaf blower.
12V fans screwed into the airbox.
KTM 990 SD / S60 D5
Mine is 198 so pretty close
220 Trophy
202BHP & 175lbft from ITB’s (courtesy of Mr Faulks.) with longer trumpets having removed the slam-panel, ECU1 etc, Ktec/Janspeed Stealth exhaust, de-cat. Etc.
(Next step is cams, injectors, headwork and a re-map, should be good for another 20bhp.)
220 Trophy
Lol, think you missed the point he said there...
No didn’t miss the point at all. I was making a point myself that with all the work I’ve had done I’m only just over the 200bhp mark. And the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] point was what work would be needed for any additional power on top of that.
Don’t be too hasty to criticise. Lol
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172 cup, Impreza P1
No didn’t miss the point at all. I was making a point myself that with all the work I’ve had done I’m only just over the 200bhp mark. And the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] point was what work would be needed for any additional power on top of that.
Don’t be too hasty to criticise. Lol [COLOR=#22
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There are quite a few with reaching the magic 200 from itb's but the point was made back in July that 200bhp was possible without them but no news since.
Anyone know what the most anyone's got from a N/A F4R engine in any form?
KTM 990 SD / S60 D5
I think 240 is the limit,but that will cost you bucks and would be best suited to track(mad cams ect)
The limit depends on how deep your pockets are.
There is a guy in the projects section going for 300 bhp NA.He has a link to a youtube vid of a 279 bhp NA engine made by the same people who are making his engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2B5Lkp0Au8
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?584395-Hunting-big-power/page3
Will be interesting to see his results.
There is a guy in the projects section going for 300 bhp NA.He has a link to a youtube vid of a 279 bhp NA engine made by the same people who are making his engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2B5Lkp0Au8
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?584395-Hunting-big-power/page3
Will be interesting to see his results.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Its been done, fairly recently in fact, involved a certain Chertsey based tuning company, an RS2 extra & some C&B cams. 201bhp at SRR iirc. Was running the map for the normal RS2, so would possibly have done more with a few mapping tweaks.
Not all the development work was put on the forumz yo
Saab 93 Aero Wagon
Its been done, fairly recently in fact, involved a certain Chertsey based tuning company, an RS2 extra & some C&B cams. 201bhp at SRR iirc. Was running the map for the normal RS2, so would possibly have done more with a few mapping tweaks.
Not all the development work was put on the forumz yo
Indeed but the engine in that car really wasn't normal. It was some sort of Friday afternoon pick and mix parts abomination.....wider intake ports on the head, the possibility that it had the mythical Group N cam timing trickery done on it...and thats before James decided to throw every shiny performance part in the workshop at it.
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