Keep the 172 or get the EK9?

[Poopensharten]

I really don't see the fascination with them tbh and they all seem to be driven by midgets round my way. I would have a DC2 or 1*2 any day over one

General stats for EK9 Honda Civic Type-R

Honda EK9 Civic Type R Length / Width / Height (mm) 4185 / 1695 /1360 Minimum Ground Clearance (mm) 135 Curb weight (kg) 1090 Displacement (cc) 1595 Horsepower (PS/rpm) 185 / 8200 Torque (KGM/rpm) 16.3 /7500 Detailed EK-9 specs

Performance figures for JDM Honda Civic Type-R

Have you ever wondered how fast the Honda Civic Type-R is in a straightline ? In the May 1998 issue of UK's Performance Car, a true JDM Honda Civic Type-R was tested in a special hot-hatches feature. The figures attained will send shivers down any of our competitor's spines.
A listing of some of the critical standing acceleration numbers are as follow:

Distance Time 0-60mph : 5.7 seconds 0-100mph: 17.5 seconds 0-1/4mi 15.0 seconds at 94mph Top speed was not tested as all JDM Hondas are speed limited to around 180-190kph.
The Civic Type-R bested the UK version of the Honda Integra Type-R which has a derated 190hp engine (and similar quad headlights front facial of the US version). The UK's Integra Type-R obtained values of around 6.2seconds for the 0-60mph dash but a faster 17.1 seconds for the 0-100mph dash. However, the Integra Type-R was not fully run-in at the time of its test.


A higher bhp per litre than a 360 modena?

Fascination is pretty clear ...

 

[Heliosphan]

Well i spoke to a lad over at www.ek9.org and hes gonna take me out in his Ek9 at some point over the week end so i shall get back to you all with my opinion!

As for the Ek9 being quicker than a teg? I really dont know thats an open book as far as im concerned but im damn confident that it would shag a 182 as far as power to weight ratios go!

I'm not including you in this Danny but for some reason people seem to think these cars are the fastest things ever. Probably something to do with this 'mythical' 5.9secs to 60mph.

According to a test done by Evo, a DC2 teg did 100mph in 17.9. That isn't very impressive by today's standards. Having said that, the car is less than 200bhp and is a 1.8 so why would it be any quicker? I don't think the Civic will be any quicker than that which puts it very much on a par with a clio if not slower.

Yes off the line, the Civic would do a Clio but that screaming 1.6 is going to run out of steam at some point!

Looking forward to your comments mate after the test drive. Make sure you've got the unbiased head on though!

 

[Poopensharten]

Its the B16BR lump thats in it mate its a 1600cc, very valid point there mate, and its going to be a tough one to call, buying imported cars isnt always rosey and nice so ill have to be realistic, whilst the 5.9 might be a tad far-fetched i believe that was recorded in the stripped out race-ready 9 and from what ive heard from the owners clud they reckon its closer to 6.5 than 5.9 so i cant comment, whilst they rev very hard they are very capable cars.

I shall give verdict on sunday hopefully!

 

[Jamesstone]

Never knew these things were that quick :S , 5.7 secs from a 1.6, renault get your f**king arse in gear, we should have atleast 210bhp stock if honda had any thing to do with it lol.. although i do get 43-45mpg on the motorway at 70mph & usable lower bottom end power.. although its not great in the lower rpm it can still be driven

Would love to have a go in one :evil:

 

[Heliosphan]

Sorry, took me ages to make that last post and your cut and paste thing wasn't on at the time. By the way, that's been on more forums than I can remember but If you talk to people in the know they will tell you the car wasn't exactly standard. I'm not trying to prove you wrong just what I've heard on CivicSports and a guy on the Saxo forum who's brother has one.

Looking at those figures, 5.7seconds (no chance!) makes it about 1 second quicker to 60mph than a Clio. Yet, 100mph takes 17.5secs - about the same as a Clio. So it loses about a second to the Clio going from 60mph to 100mph.

 

[realnumber 1]

General stats for EK9 Honda Civic Type-R

Honda EK9 Civic Type R Length / Width / Height (mm) 4185 / 1695 /1360 Minimum Ground Clearance (mm) 135 Curb weight (kg) 1090 Displacement (cc) 1595 Horsepower (PS/rpm) 185 / 8200 Torque (KGM/rpm) 16.3 /7500 Detailed EK-9 specs

Performance figures for JDM Honda Civic Type-R

Have you ever wondered how fast the Honda Civic Type-R is in a straightline ? In the May 1998 issue of UK's Performance Car, a true JDM Honda Civic Type-R was tested in a special hot-hatches feature. The figures attained will send shivers down any of our competitor's spines.
A listing of some of the critical standing acceleration numbers are as follow:

Distance Time 0-60mph : 5.7 seconds 0-100mph: 17.5 seconds 0-1/4mi 15.0 seconds at 94mph Top speed was not tested as all JDM Hondas are speed limited to around 180-190kph.
The Civic Type-R bested the UK version of the Honda Integra Type-R which has a derated 190hp engine (and similar quad headlights front facial of the US version). The UK's Integra Type-R obtained values of around 6.2seconds for the 0-60mph dash but a faster 17.1 seconds for the 0-100mph dash. However, the Integra Type-R was not fully run-in at the time of its test.


A higher bhp per litre than a 360 modena?

Fascination is pretty clear ...[/QUOTE]


Sorry but still cant see it, might be a bit quicker to 60 than the 1*2 or DC2 but to 100.... Plenty of cars for the money that are quicker still in a straight line. More into B road blasts my self, not sure how it compares there though?

 

[mr bognor]

I really don't see the fascination with them tbh and they all seem to be driven by midgets round my way. I would have a DC2 or 1*2 any day over one

General stats for EK9 Honda Civic Type-R

Honda EK9 Civic Type R Length / Width / Height (mm) 4185 / 1695 /1360 Minimum Ground Clearance (mm) 135 Curb weight (kg) 1090 Displacement (cc) 1595 Horsepower (PS/rpm) 185 / 8200 Torque (KGM/rpm) 16.3 /7500 Detailed EK-9 specs

Performance figures for JDM Honda Civic Type-R

Have you ever wondered how fast the Honda Civic Type-R is in a straightline ? In the May 1998 issue of UK's Performance Car, a true JDM Honda Civic Type-R was tested in a special hot-hatches feature. The figures attained will send shivers down any of our competitor's spines.
A listing of some of the critical standing acceleration numbers are as follow:

Distance Time 0-60mph : 5.7 seconds 0-100mph: 17.5 seconds 0-1/4mi 15.0 seconds at 94mph Top speed was not tested as all JDM Hondas are speed limited to around 180-190kph.
The Civic Type-R bested the UK version of the Honda Integra Type-R which has a derated 190hp engine (and similar quad headlights front facial of the US version). The UK's Integra Type-R obtained values of around 6.2seconds for the 0-60mph dash but a faster 17.1 seconds for the 0-100mph dash. However, the Integra Type-R was not fully run-in at the time of its test.


A higher bhp per litre than a 360 modena?

Fascination is pretty clear ...

If you want a drive in a real type R danny then you can have a drive in my one B16B ha you want a H22a7 the engine for big boys LOL :rasp:

 

[Poopensharten]

General stats for EK9 Honda Civic Type-R

Honda EK9 Civic Type R Length / Width / Height (mm) 4185 / 1695 /1360 Minimum Ground Clearance (mm) 135 Curb weight (kg) 1090 Displacement (cc) 1595 Horsepower (PS/rpm) 185 / 8200 Torque (KGM/rpm) 16.3 /7500 Detailed EK-9 specs

Performance figures for JDM Honda Civic Type-R

Have you ever wondered how fast the Honda Civic Type-R is in a straightline ? In the May 1998 issue of UK's Performance Car, a true JDM Honda Civic Type-R was tested in a special hot-hatches feature. The figures attained will send shivers down any of our competitor's spines.
A listing of some of the critical standing acceleration numbers are as follow:

Distance Time 0-60mph : 5.7 seconds 0-100mph: 17.5 seconds 0-1/4mi 15.0 seconds at 94mph Top speed was not tested as all JDM Hondas are speed limited to around 180-190kph.
The Civic Type-R bested the UK version of the Honda Integra Type-R which has a derated 190hp engine (and similar quad headlights front facial of the US version). The UK's Integra Type-R obtained values of around 6.2seconds for the 0-60mph dash but a faster 17.1 seconds for the 0-100mph dash. However, the Integra Type-R was not fully run-in at the time of its test.


A higher bhp per litre than a 360 modena?

Fascination is pretty clear ...

Sorry but still cant see it, might be a bit quicker to 60 than the 1*2 or DC2 but to 100.... Plenty of cars for the money that are quicker still in a straight line. More into B road blasts my self, not sure how it compares there though?[/quote]


Im not intrested in what ican get for the same money im after one cause there unique and not alot of people have them, yeah i probaly could buy a subaru at 6k thats got 350+ bhp but why bother? I never said i wanted to buy the fastest car i could for 6k, we could sit here listing cars all day that are quicker than a ek9, but not many that make 185bhp from a 1600cc:rasp:

 

[Bezza4]

My bro has one and loves it. Some ppl on here make me laugh though. Ignore the rumours that it lacks low down torque etc. The only way you will decide if it is any good is to have a drive.

I like them, and if you look around you will find a nice example. My bros had more miles on than he wanted (72k), but it was mint apart from one little hair line scratch, the interior was spotless.

The DC5 is slightly quicker, but the ek9 is more than capable and will comfortably hold its own against a 1*2. Also handles better.

Let us know how you get on at the weekend.

A little teaser for you:

 

[Poopensharten]

I take it your bros a member of www.ek9.org ive seen those pics before, probaly the best pics ive seen of a 9 without seeing one in person!

I cant wait to see this lads at the week end!

 

[mr bognor]

I take it your bros a member of www.ek9.org ive seen those pics before, probaly the best pics ive seen of a 9 without seeing one in person!

I cant wait to see this lads at the week end!

Stop being a girl and buy it you no you want that (YO) V-TEC back

 

[Poopensharten]

I take it your bros a member of www.ek9.org ive seen those pics before, probaly the best pics ive seen of a 9 without seeing one in person!

I cant wait to see this lads at the week end!

Stop being a girl and buy it you no you want that (YO) V-TEC back

lol, dont lie, you love the Ph1

are you not a member on board ek9.org aswell actualy, name rings a bell a think:evil:

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

...will comfortably hold its own against a 1*2. Also handles better.

Jurys out on the handling - Friend of mine in Tubridge Wells has one and says the handling can be a little 'curious' - not driven one though so won't put my head on the block.:quiet: .

 

[mr bognor]

Stop being a girl and buy it you no you want that (YO) V-TEC back

lol, dont lie, you love the Ph1

are you not a member on board ek9.org aswell actualy, name rings a bell a think:evil:

Yeah i do but love Type R too . No mate on ATR.org but not ek9.org. Just keep the 172 and buy the ek9 to i no all you scots are loaded

 

[Poopensharten]

...will comfortably hold its own against a 1*2. Also handles better.

Jurys out on the handling - Friend of mine in Tubridge Wells has one and says the handling can be a little 'curious' - not driven one though so won't put my head on the block.:quiet: .

Jury's going no where unless you can say you have driven one matey, thats like me saying i had a mate whose cousins husband used to have a trophy and it handled like s**t, couldnt possibly comment cause ive never driven one so i dont know.

It weighs 1090kg's, my bet on handling? As good if not better than any Clio RS

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

Jurys out on the handling - Friend of mine in Tubridge Wells has one and says the handling can be a little 'curious' - not driven one though so won't put my head on the block.:quiet: .

Jury's going no where unless you can say you have driven one matey, thats like me saying i had a mate whose cousins husband used to have a trophy and it handled like s**t, couldnt possibly comment cause ive never driven one so i dont know.

It weighs 1090kg's, my bet on handling? As good if not better than any Clio RS

Alreet no need to bite my head off, just an opinion, just casing a point that he drives one every day and describes the handling as 'curious' therefore not filling me with belief in it's abilities - altough it could be his driving style - tyre choice - fat ass, the list goes on. Btw 1090KG - what does a Reliant Robin weigh? handling is......

 

[Poopensharten]

Could be a multi-tude of things mate its neither hear-nor-there.

He describes the handling as curious? Curious as in dangerous? lol

 

[Bezza4]

I never had that much confidence in the Clios handling any way. The back end went light far too easily. The EK9 has lsd which is going to improve the handling straight away as you have more grip.

My bro is on ek9.org, well actually I think I originally signed up and he uses my username.

 

[ForceIndia]

I never had that much confidence in the Clios handling any way. The back end went light far too easily. The EK9 has lsd which is going to improve the handling straight away as you have more grip.

My bro is on ek9.org, well actually I think I originally signed up and he uses my username.

LSD improves grip and traction, not handling. It's the suspension set up and how well the LSD is set up that determines the handling. Few years ago one of the mags (evo or tgear I think) tried the ek9, declared it the worst type r made. Can't decide wether to buy a car on that, but there are other points of view. For the money it would be a dc2 every time for me.

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

I never had that much confidence in the Clios handling any way. The back end went light far too easily. The EK9 has lsd which is going to improve the handling straight away as you have more grip.

My bro is on ek9.org, well actually I think I originally signed up and he uses my username.

LSD improves grip and traction, not handling. It's the suspension set up and how well the LSD is set up that determines the handling. Few years ago one of the mags (evo or tgear I think) tried the ek9, declared it the worst type r made. Can't decide wether to buy a car on that, but there are other points of view. For the money it would be a dc2 every time for me.

^^ 10 Points!!

 

[Poopensharten]

Its safe to assume that its a love hate with the Ek9 amongst the majority.

On things for sure, it cant be worse than the Ph1 172...

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

Its safe to assume that its a love hate with the Ek9 amongst the majority.

On things for sure, it cant be worse than the Ph1 172...

I do like the ek9 - but not the best type r imho. Although did see a yellow one (think t'was the jordan addition?) which looked pretty sweet. Any way your clearly not a big fan of the ph1 - so go for ek9. Whats the point in driving if you can't enjoy it?!

 

[ForceIndia]

Its safe to assume that its a love hate with the Ek9 amongst the majority.

On things for sure, it cant be worse than the Ph1 172...

I know a few people with expeience that say the ph1, iss the most fun RS as standard, so if you don't like it I'd change. Not everyone likes the slightly nervous back end, but it's the quickest set up for a FWD car, you'd probably shart yourself in a 306 rallye!

 

[Iridium]

Get the EK9 and f**k off to a Civic forum Nah just kiddin mate - have you ever driven an EK9 ? If not, I'd start there, you might hate it. That buzzy little 1.6 is it? Making 180bhp? That's gonna be a very peaky thing and won't be to everyones liking, especially after the comparatively torquey Ph1 you're driving now.

Dan

 

[Poopensharten]

Its safe to assume that its a love hate with the Ek9 amongst the majority.

On things for sure, it cant be worse than the Ph1 172...

I do like the ek9 - but not the best type r imho. Although did see a yellow one (think t'was the jordan addition?) which looked pretty sweet. Any way your clearly not a big fan of the ph1 - so go for ek9. Whats the point in driving if you can't enjoy it?!

Well the 9s only came in silver,black,white and yellow (all with white wheels) so could have been!

I do enjoy the clio very much so infact, the whole wolf in sheeps clothing is absolutley priceless a look slapped across BMW and merc drivers faces when you fly past...

Mate im fanatical about Renaults and always have been dont get me wrong i **** it somtimes but they are renowned for relaibility issues where as Hondas arent (even though i have to admit my cars in damn good nick for being 7 years old) That said if i can get a car of simillar or better performance with better reliability and there rare as rocking horse shiit then why not...

Just a thought:rasp:

 

[Poopensharten]

Get the EK9 and f**k off to a Civic forum Nah just kiddin mate - have you ever driven an EK9 ? If not, I'd start there, you might hate it. That buzzy little 1.6 is it? Making 180bhp? That's gonna be a very peaky thing and won't be to everyones liking, especially after the comparatively torquey Ph1 you're driving now.

Dan

pmsl, good post^

Buzzy? haha thats one way of describing somthing that revs for 10 minutes between gear change, ive not driven an EK9 mate but i have had a blast in a VTi-S (158bhp) which was very good fun for a 1600cc, i think after i drove that i got hooked!

But after my first house purchase, spending £1500 on insurance wasnt an option as apparently terracota curtains are a must have before sleek red recaros lol

 

[Blinkin182]

Could be a multi-tude of things mate its neither hear-nor-there.

He describes the handling as curious? Curious as in dangerous? lol

Maybe he was on his gay-date site, typing in the wrong window?!:rasp:

 

[Poopensharten]

pmsl^

Whatever paddles his canoe! lol

 

[mr bognor]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hKF950JjHZw

 

[Bezza4]

I never had that much confidence in the Clios handling any way. The back end went light far too easily. The EK9 has lsd which is going to improve the handling straight away as you have more grip.

My bro is on ek9.org, well actually I think I originally signed up and he uses my username.

LSD improves grip and traction, not handling. It's the suspension set up and how well the LSD is set up that determines the handling. Few years ago one of the mags (evo or tgear I think) tried the ek9, declared it the worst type r made. Can't decide wether to buy a car on that, but there are other points of view. For the money it would be a dc2 every time for me.

Is that not what I said?! I never said the lsd makes it a good handling car as I know suspension set up etc is the main contributing factor, I said it improves the handling. Surely grip is a contributing factor to a cars handling? If a car doesn't grip and therefore potential understeers surely that is the car not handling well?! Therefore if lsd improves grip it improves handling does it not?