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Its only lowered 35mm on Pi springs but looks way lower.
The back torsion bar was dropped untill the sills sat perfectly level. I guess around 55-60mm.
I can have 2 people easy in the back and depending on the people sometimes have a full car. When i have a full car it only rubs on major bumbs so nothing major. The front only ever catches when on full lock and turning into my drive apart from when doing this 1 manover it never rubs at the front.
My suspension is firmer since having the springs but not stupidly as it is still comfortable.
I paid quite a lot for mine lowered but i was happy as it looks better than i thought it would. Torsion Tuning done the job for £200 including springs as my torsion bar was seezed.
Places like Extreme or Rtech wanted this sort of money but another £50 on top if the bar was seezed. They will also only lower it in notches and in my experience 1 notch is not enough but 2 notches is way to much, so i wouldnt take it there.
Only arch mods I needed to get the 17s on was removing the sh*t catchers. There is still plenty of room for bigger rims on the back but the front would be a hassle (ie triming the wing itself). Arch mods took bout 45mins.
Kev, who are these torsion tuning people? have you got a number? would you say they sorted it ok cause im a bit paranoid when it comes to garages i had to have a coil spring fitted although 1 was under warranty i had to pay for the other one which cost me nearly a ton!! and it wasnt even a renault spring.. now that you have taken off the plastic bit under your arch dont you get loads of sh** everywhere?