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KTR throttle bodies/ Jenvey throttle bodies.
- Thread starter Mark-387
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Sir_Dave
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Sir_Dave
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Using my link with either 'Jenvey', 'KTR Throttle Bodies', or 'Throttle Bodies' in the title search only:
Jenvey: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/search.php?searchid=8104278
KTR: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/search.php?searchid=8104286
Throttle Bodies: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/search.php?searchid=8104294
And yes, the search function does answer a lot.
Jenvey: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/search.php?searchid=8104278
KTR: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/search.php?searchid=8104286
Throttle Bodies: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/search.php?searchid=8104294
And yes, the search function does answer a lot.
Jenvey bodies - in my opinion the best as it's a proper tried, tested and performing solution.
Fitted to my standard 118k engine with a remap is producing 195+ bhp.
Lovely noise, lovely power. You do lose some day to day driveability though so if it's your daily car I would have a strong think
As to remapping standard ecu - not really, you would need something aftermarket
Budget about £2.5-3k for the whole thing including mapping
Other alternative would be cams - there's a couple of cam kits producing 190+bhp now with a remap on standard ecu and you'd have more driveability from that
Fitted to my standard 118k engine with a remap is producing 195+ bhp.
Lovely noise, lovely power. You do lose some day to day driveability though so if it's your daily car I would have a strong think
As to remapping standard ecu - not really, you would need something aftermarket
Budget about £2.5-3k for the whole thing including mapping
Other alternative would be cams - there's a couple of cam kits producing 190+bhp now with a remap on standard ecu and you'd have more driveability from that
Thank you for the comment mate much appreciated. That's answered a lot as it would be a daily drive and wouldn't want to lose any drivability. I've been looking at cams was unsure wether you would see much more power out of them so I was thinking cams and throttle bodies at the same time.
In your shoes unless you really want the noise I'd go cams alone
Some of the cam and remap packages people are doing on here aren't far off the power you get with bodies
Problem with bodies AND cams is you really then need to uprate the engine and you're looking at £4-6k just for 215-220bhp
Whereas you can get 190+ bhp with a set of cams and a remap which is £1500
I'd chuck cams in, get a remap and then look at better suspension/tyres so you can actually use the power
Some of the cam and remap packages people are doing on here aren't far off the power you get with bodies
Problem with bodies AND cams is you really then need to uprate the engine and you're looking at £4-6k just for 215-220bhp
Whereas you can get 190+ bhp with a set of cams and a remap which is £1500
I'd chuck cams in, get a remap and then look at better suspension/tyres so you can actually use the power
Evo 5 RS
KTR kit is designed by Jenvey and also IIRC a direct to head alternative to the kit that Jenvey offer off the shelf, so in short you are actually better off going to KTR both price wise and kit wise. Just make sure you fit a proper air filter.
Yeah sorry I wasn't saying I'd choose Jenvey over K-Tec - I was saying I'd choose Jenvey over the AT Power bodies etc..
the Air filter with the KTR kit is now the best available. It's fantastic with a very very clever push button fix/release mechanism
You have an issue, it should drive better than standard. Mine does
Evo 5 RS
Cool, think I know the one you're on about where they've put the logo in yellow fontage. Not seen one in the flesh though
And as above, especially seeing as you're running standard cams. Midrange is fecking awesome on throttle bodies!
And as above, especially seeing as you're running standard cams. Midrange is fecking awesome on throttle bodies!
Really? ITB's do make the engine a bit "snappy" which is hardly ideal if you're sat for 10mins in 5mph traffic lol
that's the one. I had one on the stand at CSS
Evo 5 RS
Phil that's just because cable throttle is about a billion times better. I drove a standard ph2 recently and it feels like a 5 series lol
LOL I'm not sure I could go back to driving a standard 172 - would freak me out
I just tend to look a bit like a dick when I go to apply a bit of gas and my head hits the seat lol
Probably doesn't help that my other drive is a 306 hdi - so switching between the two takes some getting used to
I just tend to look a bit like a dick when I go to apply a bit of gas and my head hits the seat lol
Probably doesn't help that my other drive is a 306 hdi - so switching between the two takes some getting used to
Normally I would say a modern standard engine will be better behaved on standard management than on ITBs (ICV etc and extra sensors so can allow for more scenarios) In the case of the 172 though with its erratic idle and weird power delivery, I do think ITBs drive better than the standard car in some respects, although not better than a well mapped phase 1.
Despite your impudence, I couldn't help but... :lolup:
(And agree with you a little bit!)
you'd be surprised the difference setting up the throttle quadrant properly makes. Changing the rod length changes the rate of opening in the light throttle area, making light throttle much nicer.
You might also be confusing snappy, with responsive, standard is flat and terrible
Oh really!!!!
If I could make mine a little bit slower opening at very low rev's I'd be loads happier with it
It's a bit on/off under 2k
Is there any guides on that I can read?
If I could make mine a little bit slower opening at very low rev's I'd be loads happier with it
It's a bit on/off under 2k
Is there any guides on that I can read?
Evo 5 RS
New throttle cable is something most ph1s on here could do with I reckon, another one of those things that just never gets changed
Yeah a sticky cable itself can make them feel snappier than they should too.
My cables brand new - I think the throttle linkage was fitted by a r****d though. I noticed a few weeks ago it was actually fowling the manifold when fully open so I adjusted it a bit myself - but it's still too quick to open lower down in the revs.
I wanna swap it over to the other side so that the throttle cable doesn't go over the engine - job for winter I think
I wanna swap it over to the other side so that the throttle cable doesn't go over the engine - job for winter I think
