Leda coilovers - GDi demo car - WOW!!!

[caymanr26]

After a trip to GDi today I can honestly say I am stunned - Andy took me for a spin in his 182 demo car - WOW! The handling is something else - Until now I thought that these shocks were massively overpriced and did not expect them to give the qualities that they provide - they really are impressive.
You can hit potholes with out any big bang or vibrations going through the car - bumps are absorbed brilliantly even set at a very low level - But the big plus was the handling - It is so smooth and responsive - Fair play Andy can drive and really gave it some stick but it felt in control all the time - I really want my car set up like this
Has anyone been in both a car with H&R coiovers and one with Leda's - if so what are your opinions - how different are they?

 

[Spammy]

I've only been in a 182 with LEDA's and was immensely impressed over standard, but no comparison, sorry!

 

[Gary G]

I can compare between the GAZ kit and the Leda's.....GAZ= s**t, Leda's= Awesome H&R's are somewhere inbetween lol

 

[caymanr26]

thats really helpful gary - nice 1. lol!
I sort of guessed that much but if the gap is too big then I am going to have to get the Leda's. I am very tempted anyway. Nick at Hill Power recommends lowering on H&R's 15mm from standard for optimum handling/ride which isnt enough for me especially after seeing yours and Andy's cars today - will they still perform well lowered about 40-50mm?

 

[Andy GDI]

mine is about 45-50mm I think

 

[caymanr26]

sorry Andy I should have been clearer - I meant will the H&R's still perform well when lowered approx 40mm all round

 

[Gary G]

I'm gonna raise mine a little mate....shouldnt really be about looks at the end of the day lol

 

[caymanr26]

yours is fookin low though - not all about looks - I have looks now I want handling as well!

 

[Andy GDI]

Chap called Nev had a 172 with H&R's it was low too... and it seemed fine...

far better than what we drove today!! ;-)

 

[EVOgone]

I'm gonna raise mine a little mate....shouldnt really be about looks at the end of the day lol

Why change now, just take the wax off and it will raise 10mm....:rasp: ...

 

[Andy GDI]

now that is funny evo!

 

[EVOgone]

What spring rates are H&R coilover springs ?????

 

[caymanr26]

yeah Im intersted in that too - I want them the same as the leda's - they were perfect

 

[caymanr26]

as Andy's ledas I should say as Leda do various different rates

 

[Andy GDI]

mine are 225 front and 300 rear.

going for 300 front in the summer for track

 

[Gary G]

god dammit lol!

See, i'm a real man!! lol

Evo, i tried finding out the springs rates from H&R, managed the fronts but it was in a very odd unit/format

 

[caymanr26]

i would have expected harder at the front than the back - why is it the other way round?

 

[caymanr26]

that picture must have been a while ago - it was fookin gleamin today - made me feel quite inadequate!

 

[Gary G]

Its calculated using the suspension moment (range of motion and pivot points etc) Its the wheel rate thats most important anyways...just most people use spring rate.

Edit- mate your car was bloody clean, especially as you'd driven all the way from cardiff!! Also, i've never seen carpet so clean lol

 

[Andy GDI]

i would have expected harder at the front than the back - why is it the other way round?

because the fulcrum is closer to the pivot on the rears so they have to be proportionally harder than the front.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Fair play Andy can drive

PMSL!

 

[BenR]

PMSL!

snigger......

 

[BenR]

fulcrum = pivot point

 

[Andy GDI]

PMSL!

oh hahah

 

[Andy GDI]

snigger......

and as for you......... your a bloody national safety issue.

 

[MarkM]

leda's over standard (cupped 182) is amazing. Turn the dampers up and it is rock solid ( to hard for the road) turn them down to softest and they are not far off standard. All the settings in between work aswell to give you fine adjustment to set it up how you want it.

Garys and Andys are to low by the way:rasp:

 

[Gary G]

http://www.trackphoto.co.uk/singlec...&BURL=/car.php?DIR=20060204_Bed_Eas_web/R8CEX

 

[TheJesus]

and as for you......... your a bloody national safety issue.

agreed, he's a f**king lunatic! :rasp:

oh Ben, read your email b**ch!

 

[caymanr26]

well I thought it was a good spin anyway - Andy said he knew the road well but you still have to know what you are doin driving like that - forgot to say the car sounds mental as well - ive got an exhaust and air filter but it sounds no where near as good as GDi's car.
Will have to come for a spin with you Fred!

 

[Gary G]

In his 1.2? *snigger* only kidding mate....see you at the track beeeeatch

 

[izibizi]

H&R front springs are:
172: 150-070, meaning 150mm long, springrate 70N/mm, 400lbs/inch.
182: 180-070, meaning 180mm long, same springrate

I have no idea how to compare this to springrates on your Ledas, but would like to hear what you think.
Have no clue about the back end.