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loud whining noise when cold- goes away when clutch pedal is pressed. What is it?
- Thread starter con1981
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I think you will need to remove it completely to do the input bearing. There is a plate inside which retains the oil seal, but I don't know if you can remove the bearing without splitting the box, or even if there is enough room.
Lowering the subframe to remove the box completely isn't much of a hassle once you have all of the other bits apart. The steering column is the worst part I found. You need to undo the pinch bolt and remove it completely, because there is a step on the rack stub which stops it pulling off of the column otherwise. And space it a bit limited.
When I did mine I left the suspension struts in place, and just seperated the track rod ends, and undid the bolts which hold the ball joints onto the lower suspension arms.
The guide on here says to remove the struts, hubs etc from the car which isn't really necessary.
Lowering the subframe to remove the box completely isn't much of a hassle once you have all of the other bits apart. The steering column is the worst part I found. You need to undo the pinch bolt and remove it completely, because there is a step on the rack stub which stops it pulling off of the column otherwise. And space it a bit limited.
When I did mine I left the suspension struts in place, and just seperated the track rod ends, and undid the bolts which hold the ball joints onto the lower suspension arms.
The guide on here says to remove the struts, hubs etc from the car which isn't really necessary.
182, SQ7, Trafic
It can be done by splitting the engine and box in the bay and squeezing your hand in.
It's easy removing the bearing and sliding back on but getting the clutch fork back on to it is the worst part! It's also wise to clean out all the crap in the gearbox if the bearing has started to fall apart.
It's easy removing the bearing and sliding back on but getting the clutch fork back on to it is the worst part! It's also wise to clean out all the crap in the gearbox if the bearing has started to fall apart.
Ok I'm a little confused. I'm struggling to find where the input bearing should be on the gearbox.
I've attached a pic and can't see how or where I would have to get my hand in to get the bearing out. So do I need to open the box to get at it?
If any one could tell me where the input bearing is on this pic that would be great.
I've attached a pic and can't see how or where I would have to get my hand in to get the bearing out. So do I need to open the box to get at it?
If any one could tell me where the input bearing is on this pic that would be great.
Brilliant mate. Thanks for this. I was suddenly panicking that this was a full box strip down job and buying recon box might be a easier option
Pretty sure the input shaft bearing can't be replaced without taking the box apart. What you're seeing in that picture is just the release bearing guide tube.
Not what I wanted to hear. I think dismantling a box may be slightly out of my league. There seems to be a lot of YouTube video's for Honda gearboxes but couldn't find any for renault
If it's definitely the input shaft bearings then I'd probably recommend just trying to get another gearbox for a half decent price and fit that. Not a difficult job really, it's just time consuming! Done one the other week in about 4-5 hours though with the help of a couple of folk who knew what they were doing. If you're handy with spanners you could have it done in a day.
Thanks for having a look for me. I think as it only happens when cold I'll hold off until it makes the noise all the time. Either way it's going to need a clutch and gear box I'd it is the input shaft bearing
If it isn't urgent keep an eye out on ebay for a used box at a good price, then buy it.
If you are not in a rush then you can wait until the right one turns up.
You should get a good used one for about £200-250 delivered or a bit less if you are willing to collect.
Once your old box is out you can either repair that as keep it as a spare or sell it as suitable for repair and get some money back.
If you are not in a rush then you can wait until the right one turns up.
You should get a good used one for about £200-250 delivered or a bit less if you are willing to collect.
Once your old box is out you can either repair that as keep it as a spare or sell it as suitable for repair and get some money back.
I think this is my best option.
The sound like I say is really evident even when it's idling in neutral with the clutch engaged and when u blip the peddle. The screach it makes sounds like a slipping auxiliary belt ( it's not the belt as the sound is definitely coming from the box). I'm certain it will probably get progressively worse as time goes by which time it will then mean time for an imminent box and clutch change.
No I haven't. It's just had a new engine put in 2 month a go which they put new fluid in.
It's just the butterfly lug on the front?
Checked. It's got nice new fluid in it full to the brim.
My temp fix will be to turn my stereo up until it warms up and stops screeching. Lol
It's not your input shaft bearing, it's your clutch release bearing that's knackered.
It slides over that input shaft and attaches to your clutch fork.
The small part in that picture.
That's what I had initially thought and I hope your right as this is a cheaper option! However the noise goes away when I press down on the clutch pedal. My understanding is that if the release bearing was bad I'd hear the noise when I press the pedal, where as I hear the noise when the pedal is up.
What I might do is buy the release bearing and when I have a long weekend (unfortunately I need the car tomorrow) fit it and see if that solves it. That way I'm only out of pocket for the time it's taken me.
I disagree, the clutch release bearing isn't actually doing much with the clutch engaged where as the input shaft bearing is rotating. When the clutch is pressed the input shaft stops turning, so does the noise.
Usually the release bearing will make a noise when you press the clutch and it is under load. When they get really bad the fingers on the clutch cover plate will wear through.
It will be worth having a look at it, as the box is going to have to come off either way, but it would be a shame to put the car back together with a new release bearing only to find the noise is still there.
When the fitted the engine didn't they fit a new clutch anyway whilst the car was apart?
Usually the release bearing will make a noise when you press the clutch and it is under load. When they get really bad the fingers on the clutch cover plate will wear through.
It will be worth having a look at it, as the box is going to have to come off either way, but it would be a shame to put the car back together with a new release bearing only to find the noise is still there.
When the fitted the engine didn't they fit a new clutch anyway whilst the car was apart?
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