LOWERING A CUP

[CUPPY]

what springs can i get i have been told for some crappy reason that companies dont list the cup but i thought 172 and cup were identical..any pics of lowered cups......any prices and places i get them from thanks to all

 

[Daz]

Theres a photoshop of a lowered Cup - looked proper nice.

 

[CUPPY]

daz you know your stuff mate will 172 springs fit the cup?

 

[Daz]

Hmm, Dunno.. I dont have a 172. hehe.

 

[CUPPY]

cheers mate thanks

 

[Daz]

I think the 172 is exactly the same as the Cup.. Unless Renault decided 172 springs were too heavy.. and made them differently.

I dont know either way 100% so Im not going to say either way - If Im wrong, youll be mad at me, hehe - Im sure someone has lowered their Cup tho, so they should be able to help!

 

[CUPPY]

ok daz cheers anyway mate...does nobody like me on her or something as not many people reply to my posts!!!!!!

 

[Daz]

Maybe everyones too scared to lower their Cups, mate.

 

[BenR]

same

 

[paul172cup]

Got my cup lowered about lowered on november (3 weeks after i picked it up)

Used Apex -40mm 172 Springs Got them for £80 and £40 fitting.

Pic lowered with 17" Turinis

http://www.cliocup.carnuts.co.uk/clio8.jpg

 

[CUPPY]

to be honest i should have addresses the question to 172 owners in terms of if the car apart from the weight reductions is exactly the same i.e. springs

 

[Slugger]

Lowered my cup with 172 springs too.

 

[Slugger]

Not standard ones of course

 

[badley]

paul172cup, that looks about 30mm not 40.

How accurate are the springs you have?

 

[Fred@BTM]

They probably havent bedded in yet

 

[paul172cup]

My car is a bit lower know but due to the Cups lack of weight compared to the 172 it does not lower it as much.

 

[mick_cup]

Looking to lower mine too....So wheres the best place to buy springs? Hoping to go for some compomotive MOs then but not sure wether to go for 17s...

 

[Ica172]

Bought my last set of springs from K-Tec for around £80. Looks good however the ride is now very hard and you feel every bump in the road and I dont think the handling is any better with them - just depends on what ya like... maybe other springs would be a softer ride?

 

[mick_cup]

Are K-Tec springs progressive rate? I beleive Eibachs are progressive not sure about other makes though.

 

[RSTDL]

lowering a cup on springs is pretty pointless -there isnt enough sprung weight to make any noticeable difference to the back end! the front will drop a bit but coilovers would be the best option. Also the cups suspension geometry is differnt to the 172 - it has 3 degrees of negative camber at the front, so lowering on progressive springs will unsettle the way it has been set up unless of course u drill new holes and bolt the wishbones om again to adjust the camber differnce after lowering it! I lowered the 1600 which was heavier with 60mm Pi springs - damaged the suspension front and back big style with 172s - changed to 30mmm springs and it was still lowered the same ammount! Im saving for ride and height adjustable coilovers and a set of race seats (Recaro) The End.

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by CUPSIZE? on 09 May 2003

lowering a cup on springs is pretty pointless -there isnt enough sprung weight to make any noticeable difference to the back end! the front will drop a bit but coilovers would be the best option. Also the cups suspension geometry is differnt to the 172 - it has 3 degrees of negative camber at the front, so lowering on progressive springs will unsettle the way it has been set up unless of course u drill new holes and bolt the wishbones om again to adjust the camber differnce after lowering it! I lowered the 1600 which was heavier with 60mm Pi springs - damaged the suspension front and back big style with 172s - changed to 30mmm springs and it was still lowered the same ammount! Im saving for ride and height adjustable coilovers and a set of race seats (Recaro) The End.

Sorry to disagree, but where did you get all this mate?

The cup is only what, 80kg lighter, not a massive amount and not enough to make it sit any higer on the same springs, that roughly 20kg less on each spring, so....maybe a 1mm diff max.

and 3 deg fo camber!!! are you crazy! your car would look like a piss take, 3 deg would wear the inner edge of your tyre very fas and it would handle horribly!

The suspension geometry diffs are limited to a 3mm lower front due to an increase in CASTOR.