Lowering springs for my Cup?

[MarkCup]

I need to do something about my tractor, and as Sarah's being made redundant soon, spunking north of £700 on the full monty going down the coilover route isn't an option.

So, what springs are available that work with standard dampers?

Standard on road feel doesn't matter, I'd want them as track biased as possible?

Do the dampers wear out quicker from the harder springs? Does the damping actually work ok with them?

 

[chauster]

does the apex springs fit the cup ???

 

[ForceIndia]

Apex are crap. Non-progressive, they're too stiff for the damper, gash. Eibach sportlines. I'm biased though. I'm selling some Apex, and still say they're crap!

 

[Chris n nic]

I've got eibachs on mineMark...can't remember which ones but they are the lower of the two...not really made much difference visually but the rear end is much more stable imo

Chris

 

[ForceIndia]

Sportlines are the lower of the two.

 

[StevenMc29]

rumour has it prolines for go, sportlines for show. for a track sportlines might be better but i dont have first hand experience so i will let someone who has/had them comment

 

[ForceIndia]

Had both. Pro's are better for road, sports for track. Apex for the bin (had them too).

 

[Fred@BTM]

sportlines mark, trust me

 

[MarkCup]

OK, Eibach Sportlines it seems to be then.

One size fits all, or are there options on ride height, spring rate etc.?

I should have made it clear I'm not wanting to do this for looks, so how much it lowers it by, or how it will sit afterwards is irrelevant.

What I need to minimise is the body roll I get - with near 120kgs taken out it sits really high...throw in some sticky track tyres and roll during cornering is almost at comedy 2CV levels.

Do the sportlines change the natural balance Fred? If so, which way?

 

[rob_clio197rs]

with the amount of weight you have got rid of the lowering springs will make it slightly lower but it will still sit very high as the lowering springs are still designed with the car at standard weight.

 

[MarkCup]

with the amount of weight you have got rid of the lowering springs will make it slightly lower but it will still sit very high as the lowering springs are still designed with the car at standard weight.

I've just been looking at pics...is getting it lower that important to me, if it's resisting roll from the springs anyway? Is a shorter version of the sportline available? Can I chop some off a la Overhaulin'?

 

[type_rdriver]

Apex, arn't as bad as people say. I had mine fitted 2 days ago, not settled yet but it looks much better and the ride feels no diffrent than my std cup springs did!

Obviously they are stiffer on fast country roads but not really harsh. Isn't your car used as a toy? you wont need comfort then anyway

Std

Apex 40mm

Kev

 

[rob_clio197rs]

I've just been looking at pics...is getting it lower that important to me, if it's resisting roll from the springs anyway? Is a shorter version of the sportline available? Can I chop some off a la Overhaulin'?

not sure if there is a shorter spring available, with less weight the springs will react differently so you may find that there could still be body roll there, not as much as original springs but still an amount there. could you not find maybe a second hand set of coilies?

 

[ForceIndia]

Apex, arn't as bad as people say. I had mine fitted 2 days ago, not settled yet but it looks much better and the ride feels no diffrent than my std cup springs did!

Obviously they are stiffer on fast country roads but not really harsh. Isn't your car used as a toy? you wont need comfort then anyway

Not true in my experience, and plenty of others on here. The ride is shocking, just too stiff for the dampers.

 

[ForceIndia]

not sure if there is a shorter spring available, with less weight the springs will react differently so you may find that there could still be body roll there, not as much as original springs but still an amount there. could you not find maybe a second hand set of coilies?

Mark, I know places like powerstation get custom springs from eibach, maybe someone like that could order you some.

 

[RichCup]

Go custom IMO from either powerstation if they have made clio ones before or these guys below (who are very good):

http://www.dfaulknersprings.co.uk/

IIRC it's about £110 for 2 custom made springs from them.

 

[Ali]

Not true in my experience, and plenty of others on here. The ride is shocking, just too stiff for the dampers.

lol! Comfy compared to yours!!

Apex are crap.

 

[172Ben]

No problems with apex springs on mine.

 

[type_rdriver]

lol! Comfy compared to yours!!

Apex are crap.

People on here say they are crap, people say they are good. I'm with the people who rate them, these are way better than the std cup springs imho

 

[mini_nick]

I had apex on my 172, thought they were horrendous, put Eibachs on and it completely transformed the car (prokit).

 

[mini_nick]

People on here say they are crap, people say they are good. I'm with the people who rate them, these are way better than the std cup springs imho

They didnt feel at all matched to the dampers from my experience.