Mk1 Clio Hub

[donsrno1]

I'm needing a new hub for my clio which is a Mk1 PH2 1.4RT. Basically what I was wondering is what other clios I can take a hub from that will be the same as the current one.

I think I have read on here previously that the hubs are the same across the whole range of Mk1 clio but I'm not 100% sure.

Also how much should I expect to pay for a hub if bought from a scrappy?

Thanks.

 

[donsrno1]

Bump

 

[Smokey]

I cant help you while im here at work, but will have a look this evening if no-one else helps before then.

I'd expect to pay about £20-£30 for a hub

 

[donsrno1]

Cheers mate - that would be a big help. I just hope it'll be a nice and easy job removing the curent one and fitting a new one.

 

[Lunner]

Can sort you out a RSi hub, which will fit your car for £25 + delivery or collection from maidenhead/midlands

 

[donsrno1]

Do you know what the situation is with that hub and the bearings on it mate - do you know when they were last replaced? I'm guessing they came off your car at some point?

I might be interested but it would depend on the cost of delivery and how long delivery would take. PM me if you have any idea about delivery time and cost.

Dave.

 

[Lunner]

No idea till i get it off the car, will be comming off a M reg Rsi on 78k iirc.

Again no idea on berarings and when they were last replaced, can try ot have a look through the service history(if it has any) when i take the hub off.

Delivery can be as quick, or take as long as you like, depending on how much you want to pay, again i won't know costs untill i get the thing off the car and get it weighed

 

[Smokey]

www.parcels2go.co.uk will cost you a tenner mate (upto 30kg's anyway)

£25 sounds a bargain mate, the bearings are relatively cheap to change if there fucked.

Stick a wheel on the car Lunner see how the bearing is.

 

[donsrno1]

Stick a wheel on the car Lunner see how the bearing is.

That would be really good if you could do as smokey was suggesting for me mate.

As for the bearings being realtively cheap - it cost me £70 to have one changed a wee while ago. The same one has gone again though after a short time - hence why I am changing the hub.

Though I suppose it may be a bit cheaper if I were to take the hub to a garage by itself to have the bearing chaged - less labour?

Is it easy enough to change the hub? I'm going to give it a go myself but just wanted an idea of whether it should be realtively easy?

Thanks for the help btw - it's appreciated.

 

[donsrno1]

Also, I would really be needing the hub asap as I want to get it sorted asap as I will need the car quite a bit in the next week or two.

 

[BRUN]

sometimes get em on Ebay

contact Ebay member 4188wilson

 

[donsrno1]

Thanks Brun. Does the person you mentioned break clios or something?

Does anyone know what models I could take a hub from?

 

[Smokey]

if Lunner can do it, parcels2go is next day delivery so you could have it saturday oe monday at the latest

You could try pm'ing mat brown or j3ned, they may be able to help you out.

Wheel hubs are £48.29 from eurocarparts mate, i have just looked and the bearings are £17.59.
If your near Cambridge and you get them I will do it for you mate, wont charge you for it.

failing that, the hub is relatively easy to get off and your local garage should only charge you a tenner for doing it for you.

 

[donsrno1]

Thanks for the info and the offer mate. I'm not near cambridge though so I wouldn't be able to do that.

When you say that the hub from eurocarparts is £48.29 I pressume that is without bearings?

I might try PM'ing j3ned or mat brown but I will need to find out about what hubs are OK to transfer onto my clio. I hadn't really thought of taking the hub and bearings to the garage though to reduce the price so I'll bear that in mind.

Dave

 

[Smokey]

No worries dave, eurocarparts was without bearings im afraid, but there genuine RT ones

Smokey

 

[Lunner]

Shoudl be able to get the hub off wihtitn the next week, sat on it at the moment, so can tell you if the bearing is in decvent nick, AFAIK all the mk1 hubs are the same.

I got charged £6 tro press 2 bearings inot rear discs by my local garage, so not expensive

 

[donsrno1]

Ok then mate. When would be the soonest you could post it out to me?

The thing is that I want to get it sorted before my parents go away on holiday as I will need the car a lot while they are away for getting to and from work etc and they are taking their car with them so I won't have a car to use if I don't get mine sorted.

PM me if you want mate.

 

[Lunner]

Once i can get down and get the hub off i can send it out that same day.

Earliest i'm looking at is being able to get down Sunday

 

[Nick Read]

Well if anyone needs the big castellated hub nut then I've got one still bagged up from Renault - if anyone wants it, Paypal me a couple of quid and I'll stick it in the post for you.

 

[donsrno1]

Lunner - I'll get back to you on that in the next couple of days if I can't get a hold of one.

Nick - what nut is it that you have got? I know I'll need to replace the driveshaft nut when I'm replacing the hub but I don't know if that's the one you mean? If so then I may be interested if it's the right size for a 1.4 RT.

I've had a read through my haynes manual and it all seems pretty straightforward. There are a couple of bits I'm not sure of but I'm sure that once I have the wheel off it will be clear enough.

It says in the haynes that I will need a ball joint seperator - is this necessary? If it's not how do I go about releasing the balljoint without one?

Thanks.

 

[Sami]

It's not that difficult just takes a while to get everything off!

You *might* need a ball joint seperator if your ball joints are a bit shagged, they aren't expensive if you do anyway!

Also getting the drive shaft out of the hub can be a pain sometimes, I had to use a special tool to get it out my old RT because it was firmly stuck in there!

 

[donsrno1]

I think I'll just pass on the hub Lunner as I phoned a local scrappy earlier and he said they would have one and that it would be about £25 (no doubt get that down a bit). I'm going to get that tomorrow so that I can fit it early next week.

Thanks anyway though mate.

As for the ball joint seperator what size does it need to be?

What tool did you use to remove the hub? Should I be OK without needing anything to get the hub off?

It says in the haynes manual to put some locking stuff on the driveshaft splines and a couple of other bits - will this just be the sort of locktite stuff I could get at halfords or somewhere?

Sorry about all the questions but I just want to check these things before I start.

Thanks.

 

[Lunner]

The hub nut Nick has will fit all cars.

Any ball joint seperator, will need it to seperate the track rod end, they are about a tenner.

The specialist tool for taking the hub off the driveshaft is called a hub puller, again only about a tenner from halfrauds.

Which side are you doing, the drivers or passenger, for the driver's side you'll need to got hte Renault and get a new roll pin for the shaft. Only ever done a passenger side one, so not too familier wiht the passenger side, but on the drivers side basicvalyl just coat the splines wiht some grease before you put them back into the diff

 

[donsrno1]

Do I have to check the hub bolt spacing etc when getting one from the scrappy?

I'm just wondering because I phoned another scrappy who said that he would have to know if the bolts to the strut were mounted vertically or if one of the bolts was closer to the wheel than the other. He said he would also need to know the bolt spacing.

Is that the case or does it matter for what I am wanting to do - which is replace the hub because I have been told that the bearing carrier in the one I have is probably knackered?

Thanks.

A reply asap would be good as I need to try and get the part today before I go off to work.

 

[Lunner]

Thats a good point about the hub spacing actualy, hadn't thought of that.

TBH i haven't ever looked at the hub that closley to see whether the bearign carrier is seperate.

Measure yours and go wiht that info, ideally if you can take the hub off your car and take that in.....

 

[donsrno1]

The guy was saying to take it in but I need my car today later on. I've measured mine and it's 52mm spacing and the bolts are with one closer to the wheel than the other. I'll phone them and see what he has to say. This scrappy says that he can sell it for £15 so i can't really complain.

 

[Lunner]

Ask him if you can bring it back if its the wrong part, if its already off the car and you aren't an arse towards them they are usually pretty accomodating

 

[donsrno1]

Yeah I was thinking that. At the end of the day it's only going to cost me £15 so even if I had to buy another one it would be £30 in total which is just £5 more than another scrappy are charging for 1.

I'll let you know how I get on.

 

[donsrno1]

Another question LOL. Is knowing the bolt spacing enough to know if you will get the right hub? Wha I mean is - are all hubs with 52mm bolt spacing exactly the same with regard to the camber of the wheel relative to the suspension?

The reason I ask is that I phoned them and he said that because there are different hubs I would have to take in the right one to make sure it's the correct one I get but as far as I am aware - if you get the right bolt spacing that will mean that everything else with that hub is correct?

The guy on the phone wasn't sure but I am 99% sure on that because otherwise suspension kits etc couldn't just be done by the bolt spacing.

Please reply asap if you know this as I will have to go in about 5 minutes.

Thanks.

 

[donsrno1]

OK. I am picking up the hub from the scrappys on monday.

What I was was wondering though is roughly how long it would normally take to take off the old hub and replace it with the new one?

I'm just asking this because I'm really tight for time at the moment but need to get this done and put my old exhaust back on (insurance reasons) next week.

Thanks.

 

[donsrno1]

I know that when the new hub is being put on you need to replace the hub nut with a new one. Would I have to buy this from renault or could I get any nut that was the right size - if so what size is it that's needed?

What is this nut actually called? - so that I know what to ask for at renault if I have to go there.

 

[Nick Read]

The Renault code for my hub nut is P R77 00 422 361 A7D05 NUT and it's about 19/20mm ID, normally handed so that turning clockwise will tighten. Nor sure if each side is handed differently? Better check. Anyway, it's the big nut that you see right in the middle of the hub when you take the wheel off and it's on so tight that most people use a scaff pipe to try and crack it.

Got a few other bits that I'll stick on the for sale forum.

 

[donsrno1]

Cheers mate. Is it really that difficult to get it off? The problem is that I don't have any decent sized wrenches to get any leverage on it. I'll speak to a mate though if I have to and just borrow one off him.

So far the list of things I will need is:

• Hub Nut
• Locktite (or similar to put on driveshaft etc)
• Hub Puller
• Ball joint seperator

Should all this as well as a standard socket set be enough to get the job done? I'm just asking as I don't want to start and then find that I don't have the right tools as I won't have a car to go anywhere to get them LOL.

I'm off to get the hub from scrappies tomorrow and plan on giving it a go on tuesday. How long would this job normally take to do as I have limited time at the moment and need to get the job done before it gets dark as I will be working on the driveway LOL.

 

[donsrno1]

The Renault code for my hub nut is P R77 00 422 361 A7D05 NUT and it's about 19/20mm ID, normally handed so that turning clockwise will tighten. Nor sure if each side is handed differently? Better check. Anyway, it's the big nut that you see right in the middle of the hub when you take the wheel off and it's on so tight that most people use a scaff pipe to try and crack it.

Got a few other bits that I'll stick on the for sale forum.

I was out measuring the one currently on mine earlier and it is around the 30mm mark????

Are you talking about the nut that goes in the very centre of the hub where the driveshaft is?

Also, I got the hub but I thinkn the bearings may have gone in that one too

If you hold where the hub noramlly joins the strut by hand and then try to rock the brake disc then there is a little play in it - I'm guessing this means the bearings have gone. Is there any point in putting it on the car to check or do you think they will definately have gone if there is even a very, very small amount of play?