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Most expensive breakers ever



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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
I paid 1.7k

Put them on Clio trophy for Standard seats plus £750 as I thought there would be a trophy owner will to do a deal that way
chuff pot said they were worth only the price of the standard seats anyway..

so that will be 1.4k then!

Flol, he really is a tool!
 

Darren S

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What engine?! Oh never mind, just spotted the red arrows are flying towards it so I can make it out in the engine bay.

I assume I'm drunk though cos I'm reading that as £1550. For a clio engine. A. Used. Clio. Engine.

This guys dreams are even more outrageous than my "gentlemens dreams"

Yeah - but the manufacturer is 'TROPHY'. That's got to add man points and £££££ right there......

Trophyspec.jpg


;)

D.
 

MarcB

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  182 Trophy & 197 F1
I wonder if my Trophy has these. If so i might get £1500 for my engine also.
 
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  Lionel Richie
buy a trophy for £4K brake it and sell it for £10K, i know how to become rich now!

going off that my V6 engine must be worth £30K
 
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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Fred, all joking aside, a 4K trophy already will break for a profit of course, even at sensible money for the items.
 

Bluebeard

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  Whichever has fuel
Funnily enough, a mate rang me today to tell me about this guy.

''Dan, I know you're into clio's but you need to see what this bloke is advertising stuff for! He must be on crack!''

I explained to him that he most probably is on crack.
 
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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Funnily enough, a mate rang me today to tell me about this guy.

''Dan, I know you're into clio's but you need to see what this bloke is advertising stuff for! He must be on crack!''

I explained to him that he most probably is on crack.

If he sells that engine he can buy all the crack he has ever wanted at that price. lol
 
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  Sunflower Ph1 172
Oh no you couldnt!

Try it!

Price up:
new pistons
rebore
new bearings
new oil pump
gaskets and seals
new water pump
new rod bolts
new head studs
new valves
new valve springs
new lifters

etc

And you will be looking at several times what you think you will be mate and.



What you mean is that you can do a cheap and cheerful freshen up style rebuild to breathe a little more life into a tired engine for about a grand, and yes you can, but it is NOT a zero miler engine afterwards, nothing like, for a start you will be taking worn bores and then taking them even bigger with the honer so your piston to bore clearnace wont just be worse than standard it will be worse than the average high miler engine etc.



There is a lot of misunderstanding on this forum about what a PROPER engine rebuild should involve IME!

wow, wasn't quite expecting such a spirited response. I'll be honest with you though, I didn't quite understand that sentence I highlighted there, think you may have changed your mind halfway through writing it. (That isn't a dig by the way)

What I was trying to say is, if you were going to fit a new engine into a 1*2 it's likely you'll either buy a second hand engine, or 'refresh' an engine like you've stated. If you were to go as far as you've pointed out for a 'complete rebuild' on a 1*2 then you'd have to have more money than sense, and you'd probably be better off just ordering an engine straight from Renaultsport.

Just had my engine 'freshened up' - Block honed and decked, head skimmed, new rings, bearings gaskets, bolts, seals, belts etc etc. Ok to say it would be a 'zero' miler is perhaps an exaggeration, but it would still be in much better condition than any second hand engine you'd pick up. Once run in I'm pretty sure it'll perform just as well as a brand new engine.

Just in case you misinterpret my reply, I'm not pretending to be some 'engine pro'.
 

R-Sport.

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  Mint 1*2's for sale-
adding some bits up at average prices

£500 engine
£400 Wheels
£800 Seats
£250 Spoiler
£300 Suspension?
£100 Steering wheel

thats 2.5k before you get cracking on parts etc-
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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Seriously? Genuine question.

Price it up mate.

Although im not saying you'd sell it all in a weekend or that I think its a good idea to start doing it, there are more profitable cars out there to break, but yes it would see that figure, even a snotty 600 quid phase one will break for 1500 quid+ if you are patient with the smaller stuff, so when you start adding in panels in a colour people will pay a premium for in order to avoid having to have paintwork done, and all the modified bits like the sachs dampers, and spoiler and seats etc, not to mention its a 182 so the manifold and cat are worth money etc, exhaust if its not rotten is worth a few quid, etc etc.
 
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  HBT 172 Cup
for a start you will be taking worn bores and then taking them even bigger with the honer so your piston to bore clearnace wont just be worse than standard it will be worse than the average high miler engine etc

I agree with that! I've had 2 F4R's rehoned, both time by the same company and i think they were a little liberal both times. There is audible pistons slap when cold when you load up the engine at low revs (pulling away in 1st), to be fair you average person wouldnt even hear it, but it happened identically both times and it does irritate me when you can hear it. When i put my meggy pistons in i will use another untouched block and take the very bare minimum material away myself with a flexhone i think.
 
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adding some bits up at average prices

£500 engine
£400 Wheels
£800 Seats
£250 Spoiler
£300 Suspension?
£100 Steering wheel

thats 2.5k before you get cracking on parts etc-
S

Price it up mate.

Although im not saying you'd sell it all in a weekend or that I think its a good idea to start doing it, there are more profitable cars out there to break, but yes it would see that figure, even a snotty 600 quid phase one will break for 1500 quid+ if you are patient with the smaller stuff, so when you start adding in panels in a colour people will pay a premium for in order to avoid having to have paintwork done, and all the modified bits like the sachs dampers, and spoiler and seats etc, not to mention its a 182 so the manifold and cat are worth money etc, exhaust if its not rotten is worth a few quid, etc etc.


Seriously tempted now, as mine is hardly worth anything, you certainly can't sell sentimental value.
 
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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
wow, wasn't quite expecting such a spirited response. I'll be honest with you though, I didn't quite understand that sentence I highlighted there, think you may have changed your mind halfway through writing it. (That isn't a dig by the way)

Oh, I meant to add "and thats before you even mention measuring the crank properly and deciding if you need a new one of them too, cause the money you go and get it ground it is FAR inferior to original, I wouldnt ever call a ground crank a proper rebuild personally.


What I was trying to say is, if you were going to fit a new engine into a 1*2 it's likely you'll either buy a second hand engine, or 'refresh' an engine like you've stated. If you were to go as far as you've pointed out for a 'complete rebuild' on a 1*2 then you'd have to have more money than sense, and you'd probably be better off just ordering an engine straight from Renaultsport.

Just had my engine 'freshened up' - Block honed and decked, head skimmed, new rings, bearings gaskets, bolts, seals, belts etc etc. Ok to say it would be a 'zero' miler is perhaps an exaggeration, but it would still be in much better condition than any second hand engine you'd pick up. Once run in I'm pretty sure it'll perform just as well as a brand new engine.

Just in case you misinterpret my reply, I'm not pretending to be some 'engine pro'.

No worries mate, was just the zero miler thing that made it sound like you didnt realise all the ways it would be inferior to a new engine.
Yeah you can freshen one up fairly well for a grand, we just did ours for about 1600 quid IIRC and that included stuff like ARP head studs, ARP rod bolts, and new supertech valves, so more than is in a usual "freshen up"
 
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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
I agree with that! I've had 2 F4R's rehoned, both time by the same company and i think they were a little liberal both times. There is audible pistons slap when cold when you load up the engine at low revs (pulling away in 1st), to be fair you average person wouldnt even hear it, but it happened identically both times and it does irritate me when you can hear it. When i put my meggy pistons in i will use another untouched block and take the very bare minimum material away myself with a flexhone i think.

I used a flexhone on the one I have just rebuilt, still takes a fair amount off TBH, which it needs to if you are going to get a good finish to bed the rings in.

Let me know if you want to borrow it as they are dear in this country and take ages from the states, and its not like im likely to be using it the same time as you, only use it a few times a year at most in that size.
 
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  HBT 172 Cup
I used a flexhone on the one I have just rebuilt, still takes a fair amount off TBH, which it needs to if you are going to get a good finish to bed the rings in.

Let me know if you want to borrow it as they are dear in this country and take ages from the states, and its not like im likely to be using it the same time as you, only use it a few times a year at most in that size.

I think theres a fine balance to meet when doing it and staying with stock size pistons. How you know how many strokes to do? Also that is a very kind offer to lend the flexhone i did have a look online, and like you say they arent exactly cheap for a tool your only (hopefully) going to use once, i will send you a PM closer to the time when im building up the new bottom end :)
 
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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Um, I dont really know how I know how many times to do it, just kind of how ive learned over the years I guess, I just kind of doing it for a few seconds and then check it looks right, if it ever didnt I would do it again but it always does, seems a relatively hard thing to get wrong TBH

Mind you, you do have to properly move it in and out quickly when you do it though, its almost like you are using a hacksaw, lol

If you pause still and let it spin, it wont be good as you will get circular grooves not crosshatch.
 
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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
PS

One other bonus if you are used to normal honers, is it brakes the edge round the top of the bore which makes the rings slide in easier.
 
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  Clio 172 Ph1
Quoted from his ad "MEGA high Renault main dealer labour rates (£145 per a hour) & new part replacement costs... "

WTF i am sure renault dont charge £145 a hour thats more that Audi & VW :O!!

 
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  Sunflower Ph1 172
Oh, I meant to add "and thats before you even mention measuring the crank properly and deciding if you need a new one of them too, cause the money you go and get it ground it is FAR inferior to original, I wouldnt ever call a ground crank a proper rebuild personally.

Ended up using a different crank, didn't get it ground.
 
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  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Ended up using a different crank, didn't get it ground.

Good plan, reground cranks are a bit of a bodge really, I try and avoid them if I can. (not always easy sometimes I have a ground one in my cossie engine in fact, as I even with 500 quid to spend I couldnt find a mint unground one in time)
 


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