mount under battery...

[akaboogie]

hi peaple well it time to change engine mounts as i have the knocking in 1st & 2scd gear and it doing my head in big time..wot i need to no is the mount under the battery is it easy to change and is any one able to tell me how it done as i have the mount just need to fit it and i also have the dogbone mount witch i will be changing as well but thats easy any way......

thank for any advise on how to change this mount under battery..

cheers thanks..

 

[biojo]

have you changed the dogbone one?? if not try that with a powerflex kit,

 

[akaboogie]

will be changing that tomorrow hopfully if i get time...but will let you no if it dose the job..

 

[akaboogie]

hi well i change the dogbone mount and still got a knocking. so it time change the upper gear box mount under battery..

i have been looking at some old post on here and come a cross an old post from (fred@btm) on how to replace the upper mount. now this post from (fred@btm) was posted 2 years ago in 2008 and im just wondering if nothing has change and it stiil the same way to change it.. here is wot he posted.

remove battery, unbolt the battery tray/gearbox mounting from the chassis leg (the aluminum bit)
you can leave the rubber bush alone)

unbolt the lower mount from the subframe from underneat

jack up the gearbox with the wheel off and unbolt the mount from the gearbox

bit fiddly to do, but not haed.
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if any one nose if this is still how it done please let me no...

cheers thanks.

 

[Fred@BTM]

^sounds like i was on about the front lower gearbox mount there

upper one isn't too bad

 

[akaboogie]

fred@btm...would you be able to tell me how i change the mount under the battery as you seem to no alot about these cars as i really need to change it caues it knocking like mad and i have the part here readdy to change but do wont to start it in cass i mess it up......

cheers thanks..

 

[lemonnobby]

Where you based

 

[Budgie]

As above.

It's a doddle to change.

 

[akaboogie]

im in south east london mate....

 

[Budgie]

PM Rob. He always seems eager to help people out with things like this. Might do it for a beer or two..

If not, punt round the '25 and I'll do it for a beer.

 

[akaboogie]

im in south east london mate.....

 

[akaboogie]

budgie...wot do you meen (punt around the 25)....

 

[Will.]

Drive around the m25 to see him

 

[akaboogie]

oh i get wot you meen now.......will let you no if i need your help tho....thank for the offer......

 

[akaboogie]

budgie.... please could you give me a (step by step) just on were to sort of start as im good when it comes to picking up the tools just need to no were to start sort of thing.....

cheers thanks..

 

[Budgie]

No worries mate.

Support engine from underneath with jack and wood. (There is a lower gearbox mount which should stop it hitting the deck, but you can't be too careful).
Remove battery and airbox.
Remove the whole mount, which is bolted to the top of the box, and the car about three bolts to each. (14mm, from memory?)
Undo the bolts in the mount.
Swap mount. Reverse to fit.

There's a bit of loom that goes close to and around the mount which is a pain in the arse to move around..

 

[akaboogie]

o.k thanks so much for that budgie nice one....

o.k just for my owen peace of mind on doing it this is how it done then yeah.

jack under the engine and abit of wood to suport the engine and keep it in place then once i have done this i then remove the battery from the car and airbox and then undo the (two 14mm nuts either side of the black round mount) then once this is done undo the the (bigger nut that sit on top of the rubber mount) then once this is done remove the mount then replace with new one...

oh...also do put the jack and wood under the gearbox side.

now pleaes tell me i have got this right. if so i can go and get on with it......

 

[Budgie]

Pretty much.

 

[Fred@BTM]

don't support the gearbox, remove the 2x13mm nuts (catch the bolts from underneath as they fall out) then undo the large 18mm nut and hit the spike sticking up with a hammer

gearbox will drop eventually, then jack it up and replace

 

[akaboogie]

fred@btm.... so your saying not to put the jack under the gearbox. so were is the best place to stick the jack to suport it cause if i dont suport it wont the engine just drop on the floor.....

i under stand i need the jack when replacing the mount as im gonna have to lift the engine up abit...

so im all ready to change just need to no were to jack engine from or do i even need to......

thanks ever so much for this help...budgie & fred@btm...

 

[Fred@BTM]

you don't have to support it, its easier if you don't, the engine won't go anywhere, you have to jack the gearbox up about 1inch when refitting the new mounting

you don't jack the engine at all

 

[akaboogie]

o.k im gonne remove the passenger side wheel as well just so i can get a better look in. also when im doing it im just gonna pop the jack under for suport as this is my first time doing it so just wont to be safe than sorry if you no wot i meen....

will let you no how i got on doing it.....

cheers guys.......

 

[st3ve]

I've replaced mine last week, from what I could tell it looks like it sits on the subframe with a really big rubber so it won't fall out but it will need jacking up when your bolting the new mount on.

I removed the airbox, n/s wheel and the battery, I was then able to get the access I needed, you can fit your hand in under the battery tray from just behind the ecu and from the airbox side in order to access the bolts on both sides.

You can also just about get in from the wheel arch. It's upto you how much you want to remove.

 

[akaboogie]

nice one for that......

 

[Dave Hester]

Also worth noting that it might possibly be the big bolt that goes through the mount has sheared in half as it's a common fault, and causes really bad knocking

 

[Fred@BTM]

o.k im gonne remove the passenger side wheel as well just so i can get a better look in. also when im doing it im just gonna pop the jack under for suport as this is my first time doing it so just wont to be safe than sorry if you no wot i meen....

will let you no how i got on doing it.....

cheers guys.......

don't support it otherwise you'll never get the main bolt out of the mount!

 

[lemonnobby]

fred right engine will not go anywhere as its got a lower gearbox mount i undo the 18mm first and when you take the mount off make sure the mount is tight ive done loads where its loose

 

[akaboogie]

well i got around to changing the the upper gearbox mount today....peace of piss to do thought it was gonna be harder.

gonna take it out soon to see wot it drive like..(hopfully no knocking).....

 

[akaboogie]

right as said iv change the upper gearbox mount to it out and no more knocking.......

but now iv done the mount..the car seem to have lots off vibrations when drive wot could this be now....

seems to be 1 thing after an other....

 

[akaboogie]

the mount that iv fitted is from.. (eurocarpatrs).. it was a perfect fit and i fitted it the same way the old one come out as ther is only one way it can be fitted any way......

or will the vibration die down after a week or so after it losson up abit...also gonna buy a new dogbone buse kit but dont no wot one to go for..(ktec racing bush kit) or powerflex bush kit....any tell me witch buse to go for....

cheers guys....

 

[Fred@BTM]

same thing, probably cheapest from kam racing

 

[akaboogie]

fred@btm... think im gonna order the dogbone ktec kit monday any one no how much thay are......as knocking has gone in the engine bay but still got a really little knock on the gear stick nothing big just thinking uprated dogbone kit will solve it.......also now iv solve the knocking in the engine bay im gessing the other mounts are o.k like the lower gearbox mount and the mount on the drivers side wot ever it called.....

has any one ever use the upper gearbox mount from (europarts)..cause im just wondering how long they last and are thay any good at all...

cheers thanks..

 

[Rob]

Man, I need some harsh budgie help with this one. I need to replace two of my engine mounts, ones easy, top engine, but top gearbox I couldn't undo the bolt. :-(

I could also do with putting my powerflow bushes into a new dogbone too... As I slightly cracked mine being a bit heavy handed with it removing the old bushes. Boohoo. :-(

 

[akaboogie]

yeah rob when i change my upper gearbox mount yesterday i also found it was hard to undo 18mm but just put some power on it and it will go. it sounded like mine snaped when it undid..and i fort f**k iv snaped some think here......but it now done and sorted feel so much better......

also will be ordewring my powerflex mount kit first thing tomorrow then i will be fitting as soon as it get here.......

 

[-Jason-]

I need to have a look at this I have a knock (single) when I let off the accelerator and over 5k a rattle which sounds like a bolt is loose.

I am guessing this is the same thing?

 

[-Jason-]

don't support the gearbox, remove the 2x13mm nuts (catch the bolts from underneath as they fall out) then undo the large 18mm nut and hit the spike sticking up with a hammer

gearbox will drop eventually, then jack it up and replace

This pretty much sums it up.

Did mine today only took 2 hours to strip battery/airbox, unbolt mount, drop box, fit new mount, lift box, tighten and refit everything.

 

[CBetts]

You will notice a bit more vibration when you replace the dogbone mount with the powerflex bushes, nothing really bad just more than standard

 

[Dblock]

I want to replace my dog bone mount to standard. its standard now but I was going to put a powerflex one on but the cars a daily now so not gonna do that. I can take the standard ones out as per the guide but can I push the new standard bushes in myself or do I need a garage to press them in?

Cheers