South Wales.... Treherbert is where some of the work was done... Baker and sons. Andrew baker is director.
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South Wales.... Treherbert is where some of the work was done... Baker and sons. Andrew baker is director.
BMW M4; S1000 RR
160hp with a turbo? That will not be slow.
Nice results you must be pleased.
Nice results you must be pleased.
163.... Those 3 can not be lost they have worked hard to earn there place.... Lol.... It's defiantly no slouch... Torque steers a bit in second while spinning the wheels if you a heavy footed.
I wasnt chasing bhp figures at all so when it popped up at 163 I did smile
And then a bit more when andy said in a slightly disappointed tone, there is more, but the injectors need to be bigger as it wants mire fuelling. I thought REALLY! Pump and 330 injectors would be ideal.
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So you have the speed of a 1*2/197, but cheaper tax/running costs/spares, !!!!.
Nice! (Of course I am assuming a brake/chassis upgrade follows to handle the extra powerz).
Nice! (Of course I am assuming a brake/chassis upgrade follows to handle the extra powerz).
When you look into it cost wise though,you need to factor in that its probably cost him a lot more than swapping to a 197 would have, and its probably more expensive to insure. And im not sure the running costs will actually be less now you have expensive semi-consumable items like the turbocharger to consider which you dont on a 197, so while Tax certainly is a bonus, im not sure financially its the bonus you think it is.
I have ktecs "upgraded disks" and green stuff pads to go on and saving for 4pots. it's lowered 40mm spaced 25 each rear wheel, and 20 each at front. can't find any braces anywhere. Smaller steering wheel makes a massive difference.
Chip I'm sure itll need more upkeep, I mean head gasket upgrade is a must and I can see it needed forging to keep it running healthy too. I'd be happy to keep this power and forge it with a lighter flywheel and better clutch to be honest, I don't drive it hard so hoping itll hold together until I can afford to forged bits.... Hoping they become available soon!!!
On the 197 front he looked very surprised when I was able to keep with one today.....
Chip I'm sure itll need more upkeep, I mean head gasket upgrade is a must and I can see it needed forging to keep it running healthy too. I'd be happy to keep this power and forge it with a lighter flywheel and better clutch to be honest, I don't drive it hard so hoping itll hold together until I can afford to forged bits.... Hoping they become available soon!!!
On the 197 front he looked very surprised when I was able to keep with one today.....
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Maybe more suprised at seeing me then more than anything else. Lol.
No, only rods are available at £799+ vat.... Parts would need be to made to order or sent over from Italy, I think the only place that does them is in Italy at the moment.
Hay chip... I am not spending more than 2 thirds of my total spend on the project so far on some over rated over priced rods.... lol. Cat cams do them at the moment. Seriously over priced... I'd be happy to spend say 400-500inc vat. I doubt anyone has bought a set at that price.
no good without head bolts, pistons, head gasket, etc.
Thats good to know, I spoke with omega and they wanted infromation on the pistons to see if they had made similar ones before as this would be cheaper than a fresh new one off. They only sell them in sets of 12 otherwise..... Ouch!! Apparently with cosworth, it's minimum of 24.....
What do I know about the pistons, they are individually oil cooled from underneath and are based on the 1.4 mk2 pistons, not slot to go on is it :-(
It's under the piston a jet style, the piston has a small indent to accommodate the jet.
Iirc cossies used this kind of thing too. I don't know about the 197 engine so can't say if it's like that or not, so far tce has sodium cooled vales like 197 and piston oil squirts like 197....
Iirc cossies used this kind of thing too. I don't know about the 197 engine so can't say if it's like that or not, so far tce has sodium cooled vales like 197 and piston oil squirts like 197....
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The jet cant be part of the piston, as the piston has no oil supply.
YB Cosworths run a complete seperate rail with oil squirter on them for the early ones, and then the later (escort) cosworth blocks run ones like the 197 drilled into the oil gallery of the block.
YB Cosworths run a complete seperate rail with oil squirter on them for the early ones, and then the later (escort) cosworth blocks run ones like the 197 drilled into the oil gallery of the block.
Found this which was quote cool, but didnt spot any squirters while flicking through it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9kL0P15pAU
Which one do you mean, and how many mins/secs in so I dont have to watch all of it?
couldnt see any cutouts in the piston like you say either, which didnt surprise me TBH as that sounded silly anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9kL0P15pAU
Which one do you mean, and how many mins/secs in so I dont have to watch all of it?
couldnt see any cutouts in the piston like you say either, which didnt surprise me TBH as that sounded silly anyway.
the engine (D4F-T 100bhp TCe) video is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQQ-zkQOi0w
see at minute 1:06 that's the oil jets of the pistons
see at minute 1:06 that's the oil jets of the pistons
Great link couldn't find it myself thanks
Chip you secretly will watch it late at night over and over
No problem
the engine (D4F-T 100bhp TCe) video is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQQ-zkQOi0w
see at minute 1:06 that's the oil jets of the pistons
Thats block mounted ones just like the 197, and nothing different about the pistons to accommodate them, thats the normal shape of a piston skirt.
You dont take crit very well do you?
I had a fancy J's racing intake on my ek9 years ago, heat shield and all that jazz. The standard honda setup ran the coolest intake temps. I'll say no more.
Anyways, congrats for hacking a squint hole in your bonnet.
I had a fancy J's racing intake on my ek9 years ago, heat shield and all that jazz. The standard honda setup ran the coolest intake temps. I'll say no more.
Anyways, congrats for hacking a squint hole in your bonnet.
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
agree with this, never saw anyone on this forum take feedback so badly lol! everythings a cocky argument back even when its a genuine suggesiton
Good to hear your Honda story. If people don't like then vent and bonnet being raised slightly that's fine with me.
Thanks Martin, seems your looking to start an argument or just be publicly abusive. i read the posts it's all taken on board, people's opinions are welcome, as are mine.
i dont know, its not from my country too :x
but probably you have to send an email for them, an explain your situation, that you are not from italy but you want to know the price and how you can order the pistons to a renault clio 1.2 tce 100bhp...
in the field of SUBJECT HEADING you have to choose "Assistenza x prodotti acquistati" that means assistance and purchase of products, them you attached the piston image and write the text about your situation.
because in the site of PROTOXIDE when we write "tce" and appears the tce pistons, the diameter is incorrect, because in the field to choose the diameter just have two options 72mm and 72.40mm and thats not the diameter of 1.2 TCE engine, the correct diameter of 1.2 TCE engine is 69mm (like you can see in the image), so you have to email them, to order the pistons.
send them this image, because this is a piston made by them,PROTOXIDE:
i hope that helps
