My NHB 30th Anniversary

[Firas]

good purchase mate. you getting an n1 to go with it or just keeping with the stock axel back?

 

[172Ben]

Ive bought a magnex oval 6x4.

Dont ask, but for some reason i love the look of them

I will probably change it when a spoon n1 back box come up for sale, so itll do for now

 

[Firas]

i have no personal experience with magnex but most of the people that have had a one rate them highly. They do sound really nice aswell so with the unsilenced b pipe, it should make for an awesome noise.

 

[Naith]

this at the meet on sunday?

 

[JD]

Ditto to the above?


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[Ian_182]

Ive had magnex before and they are very well made,also there not in your face with regards to motorway noise.Only when you boot it did i get the noise people wanted...

 

[172Ben]

Bit late but only just washed it. Ned exhaust and B pipe are now fitted

Not sure wether the back box will get replaced with a spoon n1 or not, any thoughts?

 

[JCC]

I'd definitely change it for an N1, hate the look of the Magnex, N1 is miles better looking. No idea what sounds better though, vids of the Magnex at all?

 

[172Ben]

Havent got any but will do some this week.

I like the N1, only around £250 ish second hand as well

 

[b33fy172]

The N1 looks alot better, not a fan of oval exhausts!

 

[Gaz_]

Do like a nice CTR, I'd have a facelift NHB, or Cosmic

Remember to check that oil though

Love this,

 

[ABOO]

N1 is meant to be better performer, and usually hate oval exhausts, but love the Magnex 6x4 oval on EP3..

 

[172Ben]

The red ep3 above is awesome

Its only needed 0.5 of a litre since i got it.

Did look at a facelift but I wanted something abit special, dont see many 30th editions. Well there are only 100 of each colour

Hmmmm i do like my oval, but the spoon N1 looks good to.

 

[Christopher]

Spoon N1 is vastly better, but then you know that already.

 

[172Ben]

Knew you would be along

I know its better, suppose i want someone to talk me out of buying one.

f**k it!!

 

[Christopher]

There was a tatty one that'd clean up fine on EK9.org a few weeks ago. not sure how much he wanted though... knowing that place, about £8.2m

 

[Ian_182]

Dont know where the oil issues come from.Ive had mine nearly a year and havent had to touch the oil at all...

 

[Firas]

The magnex actually looks quite good there. I have heard one upclose before and they sound decent aswell. I would still change it for an N1 though. I just fitted my n1 with a spoon b pipe (baffles removed) along with a resonated 2.5" decat on saturday and it sounds insane. Probably a bit extreme for a daily but brilliant for a weekend toy. Car revs much more freely now aswell.

 

[172Ben]

Currently on the look out for an N1

This manifold has come up for cheap and brand new

http://www.japspeed.co.uk/Honda-Civ...r-Race-Manifold-and-Decat-Downpipe/p-5-1-160/

Worth a go?

 

[172Ben]

Anyone?

 

[172Ben]

Next mod arrived, RBC inlet with Hondata gasket -

DC manifold at the end of the month and then Mapping

 

[Firas]

Inlet manifold and hondata gasket should make a good bit of difference. Are you going kpro or just mapped on a chipped ecu?

As for the exhaust manifold on the previous page i would personally hold out for something a bit better with proven gains(eg toda) especially if your going to get it mapped as well. DC manifolds are good but do have a tendency to crack especially when heat wrapped. People have had more success with them on the k series than the b series engines but overall for the money its a good purchase though if you can find a second hand toda one for a reasonable price i would go for that.

Looking forward to seeing what numbers she gets on the dyno after the mapping session

 

[172Ben]

I'll be getting a DC sports manifold at the end of the month, as you say unless something pops up second hand, Then mapping end of April.

Be going KPRO yeh

Should see around 240bhp, some have seen 250bhp as well.

 

[_Tom]

Is that not a 50bhp gain on a na with basic mods?

 

[Christopher]

Yep. Shocking to Clio owners but they're expected gains for the K20.

Proper engineering.

 

[172Ben]

Is that not a 50bhp gain on a na with basic mods?

As Chris said, pretty standard gains really from just mainifold, exhaust and b pipe, air filter, inlet and KPRO.

Air filter - £330
Manifold £389.99
B pipe - £130
Spoon n1 - £250
RBC inlet - £250
K100 - £810 fitted and mapped

About £2100 all in for a great gain Transforms the car apparently Especially when they map in vtec a lot lower, as the change over at 6k is rubbish compared to with hondata.

I'll leave it as that then save for a supercharger

 

[Silent_Scone]

lol oh hello....can't say I'm suprised much

Should be a weapon when you're done with it

 

[172Ben]

Lol. I can't resit

 

[Bjorn]

Doubt you'll see a 50 bhp increase with that lot. As said I'd wait for a decent manifold to come up second hand with good gains. Although I've not heard anything bad about DC stuff.
After all that lot why not cam instead of SC, NA ftw. P

 

[Gaz.]

Ouch, £2100 for 50bhp. Reminds me why I went Forced Induction!

 

[Firas]

lol Gaz.

Yeh k20's respond well to simple mods (manifolds) and a remap. Seen many get over 250bhp without any major work.

 

[172Ben]

Doubt you'll see a 50 bhp increase with that lot. As said I'd wait for a decent manifold to come up second hand with good gains. Although I've not heard anything bad about DC stuff.
After all that lot why not cam instead of SC, NA ftw. P

They regularly hit 240bhp with the mods listed, as firas says seem some do 249bhp and one did 252bhp.

 

[Nashy]

Lovely example Ben! Great choice of mods too! Im currently saving for the kpro while trying not to buy other mods!!

 

[Bjorn]

They regularly hit 240bhp with the mods listed, as firas says seem some do 249bhp and one did 252bhp.

Yeah they do, but there's lots of variables. Im just going on personal experience.

Check out this list, i know its K20A, but theres not really a big difference once youve changed a few of the bolt-on's.

K20A - N/A Combinations without Cams:

Mikegsi - 262.2bhp, 181ft/lb torque. Toda mani, gruppem, rbc, spoon tb, kakimoto regu 06&r, hondata heatshield, earthing kit, grounding position moved, shiny bits
Zero7 - 262 (I think)
Davy 01cw5 - 261bhp 180lb/ft (proven)
monz - 261 (approx.)
LeeH 260.8bhp 179.7lb/ft TDi North 26/11/07 BC Spec IV, BC Mani, RBC Intake, GruppeM, KPRO, Spoon socks
C&S Evo 7 - 260.6
DC5Dub07 - 255.3BHP 169.9 lb/ft torque Ai Autosports NI - Kpro, Gruppe M, RBC, DC sports header, 5ziegen catback.
Rob84 - 254bhp, 172.9lb/ft - Unit 8 mapped, K-Pro, RBC with Hondata inlet gasket, Gruppe M, BC Pro Spec cat-back
jay82 - 253.3bhp (162.8 lb/ft torque) Ai Autosports 4/03/10 - Kpro, GM, RBC, DC sports header, mugen twinloop
Mark_teg - 253.2bhp (168 lb/ft) - Eightspeed 20/07/10 - Kpro, GruppeM, RBC with Hondata gasket, DC header, Spoon B-pipe, OEM Backbox
Neil_integra - 253hp (179lb/ft torque) 19.02.08 Kpro, Mugen manifold, mugen sports cat, mugen twinloop, AEM CAI, skimmed head, toda high compression head gasket, hondata intake manifold gasket, RBC intake + 440 injectors.
Lockwood77 - 252.9bhp (174.6 lb/ft), TDi North, 6/4/09 - GruppeM, J's TB, RBC, Hondata heatshield gasket, Toda exhaust manifold and cat-back
JCW - 252bhp (185.1 lb/ft torque) Kpro, GruppeM, Mugen Mani, Mugen exh, RBC, J's tb
Mikegsi - 251 (192 lb/ft torque too!!)
Turbo5 -250.9bhp (170.9lb/ft) Dasteck Mark @ unit 8. 4/5/10 Kpro, Gruppe M, Mugen manifold with Mugen sports cat, RBC intake, hondata heatshield gasket, Toda exhaust.
celox performance - 250 (178 lb/ft torque) Kpro, ITG Maxogen, BC Header, RBC
Jayk "DC5 3 - 250hp (177 lb/ft torque) - Fujita F5, Toda Mani, Supersprint B-pipe, OEM Back Box, KPRO
Zen1 - 250bhp (171.2 lb/ft torque) Kpro, GruppeM, Piper 4-2-1 Mani +sports cat J's 60RS Catback, RBC, Hondata Gasket, TDI North 14/12/09
BENNY 249.2 BHP (178 LB TORQUE) KPRO, RBC, DC SPORTS MANI, HKS SILENT CATBACK, AEM V2 AND THATS IT! NO MORE!
p_r_e - 248 (159 lb/ft torque)
Jayk DC5 2 - 248 (180 lb/ft torque) Gruppe-M, Toda Mani, Toda Exhaust, Kpro
webbie - 247 (199 lb/ft torque)
tron2k3 - 245.9 (175 lb/ft torque) KPro, GruppeM, Toda Mani, Toda Exh - TDi North 10/12/2007 Time:11:45:33
Integradan - 245.1bhp (165.8 lbft) Kpro, J's Racing CAI, DC Sports Mani, Unknown JDM Exhaust - TDi North (12.06.09)
The Mofo - 244.4 (170lb/ft torque) Kpro, Injen CAI, Toda Mani, Fujitsubo Legalis R cat back -
sydney- 242.7hp 223 whp (166lb/ft) proven. mugen n1 ecu, gruppe m, rbc with hondata heatshield, hks sparks, dc sports mani, j's racing exhaust (one that looks like toda)
TDI North 25/02/08
12T - 242.4 (170.3 lb/ft torque)
stoddie - 242.1 (164.8 lb/ft torque)japerformance. GruppeM, twin loop, rbc, maxim works manifold
milano_chris - 241.7 (170.4 lb/ft torque) KPro, GruppeM, Toda Mani, T1R 63mm cat-back - TDI North 18/10/07
Sinbad - 241.3 (171.7 lb/ft torque) Kpro, GruppeM, DC Mani, Apexi N1 - TDI North 02/11/07
BadBadtz - 241.2 (166 lb/ft torque)
linzi94 - 240.6 aem cai, full spoon n1
Newty: 240hp/168torque, TDI North 23/02/09...KPro, Toda Mani, BuddyClub Exhaust, GruppeM...
Jimmi27- 233.7 (170.5lbft) KPro, Mugen/5zigen, HKS cat back. System-R 2/5/2007
Gaz DC5 - 231.3 (168.3lbft Torque) TDI 11/9/09. Mugen N1 ECU, RBC inlet with Hondata Gasket, Spoon 4-2 & 2-1, ITG drop in filter
Newty - 230 (167.3 lb/ft), TDI North 25/6/08, KPro, Toda Mani, Powerflow CAT back, GruppeM...to follow, proper exhaust(!), RBC intake...more fidling!!!
Jayk "DC5 1- 225 (165 lb/ft torque) - K&N Panel Filter, Toda Mani, Spoon B Pipe
jay82 - 224.2hp (162.47 lb/ft torque) paul from tdi north at elite - Kpro, GM, RBC, mugen twinloop
Garytc78 - 224 (152 lb/ft ) - AEM V2 mugen twin loop awesome gti 27th Sep 2008
Gaz1- 222.8 (148.7 lb/ft torque)
Frank - 221 (156lb/ft torque)
Stuart_M - 220.3 (158.4lb/ft torque) DC Sports cat back. TDI 04/07
Dazza - 219.0(160.8 lb/ft torque)
gaz3434 - 218.2 (156.0 lb/ft torque) - stock except for Spoon drop-in filter!
RSX Type S - 215

 

[172Ben]

Its going to make 240bhp +

Standard

 

[Merk]

Yup, been in a 244bhp ep3 that had a Toda Manifold, Toda catback, inlet and gruppe M, oh and k-pro of course, FLEW! Brilliant engines, tempts me to put a K20 in my ek.

 

[172Ben]

Passed it's MOT first time today

Last minute ring trip next Friday now.

 

[Gally]

Superb Ben, I didn't think you would mod it much but nice to see.

 

[172Ben]

Cheers

Slight change of plan though, new manifold next week then ill be going S/C

 

[Dweeb]

sweet!