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Nearly lost it today!



MEDD

MEDD

  172mk2 - flame
Back end stepped outday! car started like a snake type movement down the road! i thought I was bound to crash into the barriers! but managed somehow to control it without skidding!

f**king s**t myself big time what are you meant to do to control the car? I know I didnt brake, just eased off alittle and just had a fight with the car to keep straight!

5secs seemed to last a lifetime! lesson learnt :dapprove:

Anyone who knows the area! A66 roundabout Ford/Mazda shell! going from Redcar to Middlesbrough! lost it just after the corner!
 
Renault_Boy01

Renault_Boy01

  ATS CUP'd Dynamique
you should book yourself onto a skid pan course. ;)

you in theory should put the clutch down to get drive to all wheels and steer into the skid
 
MEDD

MEDD

  172mk2 - flame
ESP was on! will it of saved me?

The road is normally packed! in rush hour! I was so so lucky, not to go into someones side! I was over 2 lanes! fucked me up big time, didnt want to drive home!

I certainly didnt steer into the skid, would be more against it! As I didnt come to a halt, would be all at 40mph at least. Felt like the whole car was going to 180
 
Phoenix

Phoenix

  1.8 8v RSi
to counter u obviously need opposite lock btu not too much like most people do...thats what causes snaking...with a front wheel drive car u have to b dam good to not spin/crash.....seems you got very lucky...
as said....lesson learnt
 
LeeJSA

LeeJSA

  Clio 172 Sport Ph2
Renault_Boy01 said:
you in theory should put the clutch down to get drive to all wheels and steer into the skid
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.......erm pardon!!!??? :S:S:S Doing this would take away any control you have from using the power!!!

What you should do it steer into it but dont over do it as it will do what it did to you & cause it to flick back again sometimes taking you all the way round this time....

.....keep your foot planted on the power (as much as this seems like the complete opposite to what you head is telling you) & as you feel the car starting to straighten up bring the steering back inline....

Easy in theory, difficult to do in practise unless you are prepared for it or have had lots of practise.

Best advice I can give is to find a decent sized roundabout on an industrial estate/quiet area at night at some point and practice - wet weather is good for practising too!!!

.....or alternatively dont lift off round a corner in the first place! LOL!

:rasp::rasp::rasp:
 
Fletcher

Fletcher

ClioSport Club Member
MEDD said:
ESP was on! will it of saved me?

The road is normally packed! in rush hour! I was so so lucky, not to go into someones side! I was over 2 lanes! f**ked me up big time, didnt want to drive home!

I certainly didnt steer into the skid, would be more against it! As I didnt come to a halt, would be all at 40mph at least. Felt like the whole car was going to 180
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Maybe.

I only have my ESP on when it's raining.
 
MEDD

MEDD

  172mk2 - flame
No i didnt lift off in the roundabout, felt like my back end just went! it was kinda damp road, but nothing bad, felt like it slipped from right under me! I kept some power down when snaking.

All I could think about was my dad calling me a wanker!
 
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LeeJSA

LeeJSA

  Clio 172 Sport Ph2
Probably diesel spilt on the road too.....

Did you possibly brake, even the slightest lift off on a damp road can sometimes provoke it!!!
 
Ollie82.

Ollie82.

  Saab 93 Aero Wagon
Renault_Boy01 said:
you should book yourself onto a skid pan course. ;)

you in theory should put the clutch down to get drive to all wheels and steer into the skid
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You should do what??? Clutch DOWN to get drive?? And to all FOUR wheels?? :S
Did Renault sneak some 4WD clio's on the market when we weren't looking?
 
16vMK2 to 172Sport

16vMK2 to 172Sport

  Clio Sport xxx
Medd, if your asking people how to control a car, you seem far too inexperienced to be driving a car as powerfull as a 172. How long have you been driving? But i'm glad your came out of it ok and learnt a bit of a leason, its incidents like these that make a better driver. However, you should really be 'learning' how to control cars at speed in slower cars. As said above, when you get rear end action like you did and the car 'over steers', the thing to do is steer slightly in the opposite lock (to get the car pointing back the way you were heading) and accelerate out of it, to pull the front end back in front of the rear,if you like. If the opposite thing happens, and you get understeer where the front end isn't turning enough, and you find your self heading straight ahead, you carrying too much speed and/or applying too much throttle. Here you just need to back off the throttle and give very little correction to the steering, as when the front wheels gain grip you'll find the front end suddenly grips and snaps round the corner. If your not even on the throttle to start with when your understeering, you've simply overcooked the corner carrying too much speed and theres not much you can do, your simply a passenger and you (or your car) is doomed lol

What i can say is, its sounds like your a better driver then this guy...

Renault_Boy01 said:
you should book yourself onto a skid pan course. ;)

you in theory should put the clutch down to get drive to all wheels and steer into the skid
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he ovbiously cant drive
 
Rob's172

Rob's172

  mini cooper (RIP 172)
^^^ lmao, he's right:D best advice would be not to do anything fast or violent! just small movements, dont panic! hard to do, coz it's a reaction!

but like i said 1st just keep your foot down, ie not more or less throttle
 
S

stinka

  172 ff silver
steer into it a litle bit and apply a tad more throttle, once you get the hang you'll be able to flick it out on rounderbouts by chucking it in, lifting off mid bend and planting throttle :cool:
 
MarkCup

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
Correct, pause, recover.

There's always the slightest of pauses, and as soon as you feel that you've got to get the lock back off quickly.

Doing it too slowly or too late means it goes the other way.
 
G

GarethM

  Golf R/Leon FR
MEDD said:
Anyone who knows the area! A66 roundabout Ford/Mazda shell! going from Redcar to Middlesbrough! lost it just after the corner!
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yeah mate know it well

lucky bugger to keep it straight. you'll know for next time ;)
 
16vMK2 to 172Sport

16vMK2 to 172Sport

  Clio Sport xxx
ok, just thought it was a little bit of a pointless comment, as this can happen even with 4 of the best tyres in the world on your car...
 
Hawkeye

Hawkeye

  Damage repaired
I know the roundabout well,can be taken at a fair rate of knots IIRC.Face it MEDD,you suck mate..:rasp:



just jokin...Glad you made it out ok.
 
B

bmh.01

  BMW M135i
The trouble with ESP is that it counters you in this kind of situation as you try to correct it does too and it gets confused.

But as said foot down ftw!
 
CSX

CSX

  172 CUP!
Back end stepped outday! car started like a snake type movement down the road! i thought I was bound to crash into the barriers! but managed somehow to control it without skidding!

f**king s**t myself big time what are you meant to do to control the car? I know I didnt brake, just eased off alittle and just had a fight with the car to keep straight!
Click to expand...

Tell me bout it! same thing happened to me today, but i put the brake on and ended in the barrier! Got told afterwards not to do that.... opps!

2 tyres need replacing, Passenger Light (got replacement) and new bumper needed! won't be doing that again!
 
Renault_Boy01

Renault_Boy01

  ATS CUP'd Dynamique
LeeJSA said:
Renault_Boy01 said:
you in theory should put the clutch down to get drive to all wheels and steer into the skid
Click to expand...

.......erm pardon!!!??? :S:S:S Doing this would take away any control you have from using the power!!!

What you should do it steer into it but dont over do it as it will do what it did to you & cause it to flick back again sometimes taking you all the way round this time....

.....keep your foot planted on the power (as much as this seems like the complete opposite to what you head is telling you) & as you feel the car starting to straighten up bring the steering back inline....

Easy in theory, difficult to do in practise unless you are prepared for it or have had lots of practise.

Best advice I can give is to find a decent sized roundabout on an industrial estate/quiet area at night at some point and practice - wet weather is good for practising too!!!

.....or alternatively dont lift off round a corner in the first place! LOL!

:rasp::rasp::rasp:
Click to expand...

its what they told me to do on a skid pan course ...then you lift off the clutch and then plant the power on :eek:
 
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