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New tyres on front or rear?



Getting 2 new rear tyres as mine are cracking... but my question is this:

Do you put the new tyres on the rear, or swap them for the fronts?
 

DrR

ClioSport Club Member
  VW Golf GTD
Yeah newest, or I prefer the term "best" tyres on the back.
 

jenic

ClioSport Club Member
Noobish comment but why?

Someone told me a while back but then I was speaking to my college tutor (he works/has worked for the motorsport industry for a long time) and he disagreed.
 

ForceIndia

ClioSport Club Member
  Gentlemans spec 200
I always put them on the front. Newest on the driven wheels, the Clio tends to understeer, not oversteer.
But there's no right/wrong answer, different 'experts' will give different opinions.
 
Noobish comment but why?

Most people will find it easier to correct the front end losing grip than the rear end. I'm sure some of the trackday "heroes" will be along to tell us it's because we can't drive though.
 

Bluebeard

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
I personally prefer better tyres on the rear.

I can control understeer, but the once or twice ive had oversteer i've done a 180.
 

Pep

ClioSport Club Member
  M2,XJS,S1000RR
Search?! You are a mod afterall!

Every major manufacturer states that new tyres go on the rear of a car, be in FWD, RWD or 4WD. Places such as Costco refuse to fit new tyres to the front wheels on a car if you just replace a pair.

All to do with controlling understeer / oversteer.
 
  Ph2 172
I've always known it as newer on the rear. Advised for safety as most drivers find it very difficult (or impossible?) to control the rear if it loses traction.

Michelin advise it too if you check their site.
 
Search?! You are a mod afterall!

Every major manufacturer states that new tyres go on the rear of a car, be in FWD, RWD or 4WD. Places such as Costco refuse to fit new tyres to the front wheels on a car if you just replace a pair.

All to do with controlling understeer / oversteer.

I'm sorry, are mods not allowed to start new threads?

Thanks for everyone's advice, I'll be putting them on the rear as it's the rear ones which are worn anyway. Interesting to see differing opinions though, with different reasons.
 
  alien green rs133
i think the info we need to know is the condition on the other two tyres staying on the car

if they are only worn 1-2mm from new i would put new ones on the front.

if the other two tyres are within the last 40% of there life i would put them on the front to "wear them off".
that way once they are worn off, and your replace tyres again you will have equalish tyres all round :D

hutchie
 
  500 Twinair
This is interesting, i always thought you put the newest tyres on the front, if fwd, because you have the most grip on the front tyres...
 
  LY 182 FF CUPPED
would you ever go to a shop and buy just the one shoe?.......always change all tyres at the same time, something nice about leaving the garage and discovering the true handling characteristics of your car.

Changing rears/fronts only, has never filled me with full confidence.

But agree with the majority, changing the rears before the front if your budget permits just getting the two.
 

Scott S

ClioSport Club Member
  172 Flamer & ER-6F
I'd put them in place of whichever aren't legal anymore :rasp:

This has always been my approach when only needing to replace one or two tyres (this may change after reading this thread), however, most of the time I buy wheels and replace the lot at once.
 
I'd say new on the back, because the fronts wear out and the rears rot, so when the fronts wear out move the backs to the front and fit new rears.
 
  Better than yours. C*nt.
I'd say new on the back, because the fronts wear out and the rears rot, so when the fronts wear out move the backs to the front and fit new rears.

Good theory. I've seen so many rears that look like it's all gonna start peeling off!
 
i think the info we need to know is the condition on the other two tyres staying on the car

if they are only worn 1-2mm from new i would put new ones on the front.

if the other two tyres are within the last 40% of there life i would put them on the front to "wear them off".
that way once they are worn off, and your replace tyres again you will have equalish tyres all round :D

hutchie

fronts probably have about 60% left. The rears are pretty much rotten, covered in cracks on the sidewalls and ready to pop.

Interesting theory about replacing all 4 at the same time regardless... why would I waste tyres with 5mm tread left on them, seems like throwing away £200 imo.
 

Steve

ClioSport Club Member
  ST3 8.5
Depends on tread depth.
Just put 2 new mich's on front of wifes motor as the rears were hardly worn.
Then again fronts had 3mm+ left, just best to be safe this time of yr.
 
  alien green rs133
fronts probably have about 60% left. The rears are pretty much rotten, covered in cracks on the sidewalls and ready to pop.

in this case i would put new tyres on the front.
you are not going to feel the benifit from having more tread than 5mm on the back.
and that way you should have evenly worn tyres in circa 30k.
 
I've always been told to have the most tread on the rear, but having said that I've always replaced all 4 at once.

Oversteer in a FWD car is pretty easy to correct with some throttle and opposite lock, but having more grip on the rear is always a bonus IMO.
 
  Clio III RS 200
On my regular cars (Clio II, Megane III) tyres usually last around 35000 km (21 k miles) with one switch on 15 kkm - back go front and front (more worn out) go to the back. Then I change all 4.

However, if I would buy just a pair of new tyres they would go on the front wheels because the following logic:
1. I drive fwd cars - power goes on the road through front wheels.
2. 65% of the weight is in the front half
3. Front wheels direct the car
4. Front wheels cut the water for the car while driving on wet roads
5. Front wheels take most of the pressure while braking and need the best grip

IMHO, very bad rear tyres in combination with very good front tyres can be dangerous as the car can loose grip in all of the situations described above (turning, braking, aquaplanning etc...), but only if the driver is totally unaware of their condition and drives as if there are 4 good tyres on the car - this is because in a FWD you get all the feedback from the front wheels and everything seems great until the rear end goes in an uncontrolled slide.
 

Marky_

ClioSport Club Member
  182
The tyre guy advised me to have them on the front but I always have them put on the rear.

You've gotta have a good rotation sytem going.
 


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