No decent Clio threads on here lately?

[theduck]

Agree with what your saying to an extent Barron, and everyone else, but even the people doing small things, its still a project for them. A project being 'An undertaking requiring concerted effort'

I think there should be a subsection to the projects bit for Builds like all the ones Barron has listed, and possibly even have threads moved into that section by mods if deemed apropriate?

Also think that things like r1xph thread should be allowed in such a section along with the clio builds.

 

[Will.]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6740561#post6740561

Lets hope for the best people

 

[Barron]

Agree with what your saying to an extent Barron, and everyone else, but even the people doing small things, its still a project for them. A project being 'An undertaking requiring concerted effort'

I think there should be a subsection to the projects bit for Builds like all the ones Barron has listed, and possibly even have threads moved into that section by mods if deemed apropriate?

Also think that things like r1xph thread should be allowed in such a section along with the clio builds.

Aye but where do you cut the line? whos to say ones a "project" and the other isnt? :S

 

[theduck]

Mods move threads that are in the wrong section now dont they? I just see it not changing anything if theres a new section without it being heavily moderated.

 

[Whiteley]

Amount of junk in the projects section is a joke IMO. I update mine less and less as it disappears onto page 3 within the hour. 95% of it should be in Clio Media.

There are quite a few good ongoing actual projects though as mentioned, just got to filter through the painted badges etc.

The posts about money.... big money isn't needed to fund an interesting car. A good project is about new ideas, creative solutions, the owner getting stuck in and DIY'ing etc etc, not handing such and such a 'tuner' 5k to make the thing go faster, there's no fun in reading that.

Appreciate the mentions of mine too, cheers

 

[DannyR]

Agreed with the previous posts. People think there car is a project when they change the alloys, add some silvervisions, paint an inlet and maybe change the suspension. This is NOT a project.

A project is about doing something unique, changing many different parts, a story (f0xys thread). Serious work.

Saying that there are some good projects still going on:

f0xy
Whiteley
Beaniemoo
Burpspeed
Ben_Stevo172 ( until hes sold it)
Andrew Cooke (twingo 172)
Floodie (clio TT)
Cro-Clio (5dr ITB)
geesus69
stevo172-RWD
DannyR
Hutchie
ph-reebone
D4ve
RStuning (SC Clio)

Going to blow my own trumpet a bit here though, i am trying to update my thread as much as possible to keep people updated. There has been approx £5000 spent on an engine, £700 on a cage, £600 on a dash, £800 on suspension and many more ££££'s spent. Not only money spent but also plenty of custom bits, such as cage and plenty of fabricating. I would say that its a high expense, high love and high labour project. (http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=364943&page=30)

Carl

Cheers for the shout out

Amount of junk in the projects section is a joke IMO. I update mine less and less as it disappears onto page 3 within the hour. 95% of it should be in Clio Media.

There are quite a few good ongoing actual projects though as mentioned, just got to filter through the painted badges etc.

The posts about money.... big money isn't needed to fund an interesting car. A good project is about new ideas, creative solutions, the owner getting stuck in and DIY'ing etc etc, not handing such and such a 'tuner' 5k to make the thing go faster, there's no fun in reading that.

Appreciate the mentions of mine too, cheers

I agree here, which is why I only update twice a month maybe unless I'm on the car everynight liek I have been the past couple months. Also know what your saying about the giving it to someone to get the work done and making a project thread, and thats it, nothing else but just chat about it! Thats for the media section TBH!

 

[Barron]

thats another thing...projects are good for selling cars too.

My road 172 was sold on here and gave the buyer a good idea of what had happened to the car and the amount of work that had gone into it.

Carl

 

[Jamie86]

Whats happened? Everyones just buying 172/182s and fitting 2118s and coilovers. there seems to be no proper builds going on?

Well I just bought mine as a daily while the proper project takes pride of place in the garage..

Seemed ideal for the job as it is so why mess around with it too much..

Not sure on everyone elses excuses

 

[T.Trophy]

It's a ballache running a project thread whilst actually doing something, I took loads of photos when I stripped the engine out of my car and fitted the low comp pistons and forged rods etc... at first I was taking photos every two minutes but towards the end I was pretty sick and was only grabbing the occasional shot.

I take my hat off to the lads who have the patience to actually write up everything they do in detail.

My project is nearly finished, so expect a turbo conversion that actually makes 300+bhp for a change

 

[Da]

To be fair, a decent project on here probably attracts less than 10% of all the active members.

The 'painted badge' brigade, as you put it, attracts the other 90%.

It's supply and demand. How many of the 10,000+ members would sit down to read a 30+ page story of an F4R'd Mk1? Hell, how many would even know what an F4R is?

Paint the badges, do other styling mods and people can instantly appreciate it. Hence the 1000's of threads with basically the same 'projects'.

I think the audience on here has changed of late.

 

[Whiteley]

Assume that was in reply to my post.

Agree with what you've said. Unfortunately that's the way this forum seems to have gone of late. How many know what an F4R is... probably less than we'd both like to think.

Good projects have their own set of followers, in the same way some do nothing but spam away in GC. Shame with it being a Clio/car enthusiasts club, it's not more of the former.

Also, 30+ pages, it's 220+ in f0xys case, the loser :star:

 

[theduck]

Just realised its not a members only section, thats a big surprise tbh.

 

[Da]

It wasn't aimed at anyone specifically, but yeah I agree with your points 100% Chris

 

[Gaz_]

Amount of junk in the projects section is a joke IMO. I update mine less and less as it disappears onto page 3 within the hour. 95% of it should be in Clio Media.

There are quite a few good ongoing actual projects though as mentioned, just got to filter through the painted badges etc.

The posts about money.... big money isn't needed to fund an interesting car. A good project is about new ideas, creative solutions, the owner getting stuck in and DIY'ing etc etc, not handing such and such a 'tuner' 5k to make the thing go faster, there's no fun in reading that.

Appreciate the mentions of mine too, cheers

Very true!!

 

[.Kev.]

F4r in a twingo with itbs, that would be epic.

 

[adam172]

i like the idea of a diary section - i update my 'project' so i and others can see and give opinions on how my cars going and how it started ect and to show updates and little things im thinking of (just like a diary really)

im one of the ones that has a thread in projects but its not a project, well not like some on here but i feel if i put each entry in media it will just disappear and i will never see it again + i never know when my car will become a project- surly after pages and pages of updates the car becomes something of a project, no ?

 

[Will.]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6740561#post6740561

if you look, revels says they have plans. Let's just hold on til it happens

 

[f0xy]

Assume that was in reply to my post.

Agree with what you've said. Unfortunately that's the way this forum seems to have gone of late. How many know what an F4R is... probably less than we'd both like to think.

Good projects have their own set of followers, in the same way some do nothing but spam away in GC. Shame with it being a Clio/car enthusiasts club, it's not more of the former.

Also, 30+ pages, it's 220+ in f0xys case, the loser :star:

At least I can say - 'been there, done that' to every single problem imaginable LOL :clown:

 

[Tom@JMS]

Although I understand peoples frustration with the lack of heavy duty projects - I still think there are a good few floating about on CS compared to many other manufacture specific forums!

It comes back to the market profile for the Clios, most are under 25-26 in age and subsequently don't have £kkk's to throw at their cars, so stick to the reserved stuff that can be returned to standard with ease. I think you'll see an increase in PH2 modification as they reduce in value over the next couple of years - take a look at the Ph1's; over the last year I have really noticed a rise in people buying them purely for track use.

I think when you open a project thread you can very quickly realise if it is a bit of badge painting, or if there is some proper home grown design work going on - which I personally find really interesting.

I think so called 'tuner projects' would be really interesting - like the development of new parts/products and what goes into them, some of the bits and pieces I've played with recently could fill quite a number of solid forum pages in pics/text/cad/diagrams etc - but unfortunately not many companies will do this because it gives away a lot of the knowledge & info gathered during a development process.

 

[Tom 46]

This is so true, I haven't been on here that long, 1 year I believe, but I noticed very quickly that if you spend a lot of money on something different or extreme, especially something different, then people slate you!

I admit that im not perfect but if someone has tried something different and they like it praise them for being different, don't tell them they are fools. Constructive criticism is fine.

I remember one thread about someone talking bout fitting a sc and he just got a fair bit of s**t, luckily he did it and his car goes like hell and looks amazing!

Tbh if I did something that cost a lot of money to my car I could think twice about starting a project thread, because I know I would get s**t for it! Having said that when I start my job and buy a second car :evil:

<3

I agree exactly, its always good to see something different. Mine has always been a marmite car, but i like to think it goes against the grain really.

But i also think that because its how i want it, of course not everyone is going to like it....im almost suprised with how much people like my car sometimes lol

I know what you mean Tom, and agree (again lol) Those sort of projects will always cost ££££, and i dare say the average clio owner hasnt got thousands to spend on say a £5k car.

 

[Greeny.]

End of the day, if someone posts up a project thread that someone else see'ss as s**t/lame/budget/etc (mine for example) then I dont really give a s**t, dont post in the thread, go and read something else and get off your high horse. Its still that persons project even if it isnt pushing the Clio bounderies. I would love to waste thousands on my Clio for instance but its just isnt going to happen even if I had the money. My thread just keeps track of what im doing to it which some people might enjoy reading.

 

[Brett]

I think people are running out of ideas. The tuners have made things like ITB's, Turbo's and SC's common and easy to achieve with a few quid.

I remember Ryan from NW Performances turbo build thread back in 2008, it was something relivately new and people where interested. Now its just i've spent £4K and now I have a 172 Turbo it took a few days at ktec.

 

[Whiteley]

I think people are running out of ideas. The tuners have made things like ITB's, Turbo's and SC's common and easy to achieve with a few quid.

I remember Ryan from NW Performances turbo build thread back in 2008, it was something relivately new and people where interested. Now its just i've spent £4K and now I have a 172 Turbo it took a few days at ktec.

The fact it blew up 5 times and cost £10k also made it interesting!

 

[Rob]

As much as I understand the "not a proper project" attitude, its nice to look through how other people have delveloped their car's and it's a good place to get inspiration, especially for new members etc.

I think a simple split with "projects" and "progress diaries" or something would do the job tbh.

 

[Andrew Cooke]

The posts about money.... big money isn't needed to fund an interesting car. A good project is about new ideas, creative solutions, the owner getting stuck in and DIY'ing etc etc, not handing such and such a 'tuner' 5k to make the thing go faster, there's no fun in reading that.

Quite right, I'm in the fortunate position now of having acquired most of the toys I need to make fun things, and could afford to get seriously carried away with expensive conversions. As it happens I prefer to make my own stuff, and generally on the cheap, true, I'll spend the money on some parts, but on the whole it gets done on a budget. I didn't always have the toys, it's taken a long time to accumulate them.

20 years ago I was running around in a matt black MK1 escort, stripped bare, lowered as much as any escort I've ever seen, lotus steel wheels with hubcaps, rust, yellow headlights. Most the world thought I was mad, cost me £50, and I wouldn't have spent more than £100 on it. I had it with me in Germany for a year where it raised a few eyebrows, I think it might cut quite a dash these days.

When I sold it on I bought a primer grey skoda estelle with a vinyl roof. Again, stripped it bare, just a single Corbeau pro race seat that was so low I looked out under the wipers when driving. 15" BBS wheels, slammed, rose jointed dampers, and I'd moved the suspension pickups around and rose jointed everything. I was busy building an all singing all dancing EFI engine using GSXR bodies until I lost interest.

That's just 2 cars I've played with, neither cost much, but both were made of stuff I could find cheap at the time.

 

[Nafoff]

Thats an epic build tbh!
Have to agree there was quite a few epci builds going on last year. Ph-reebone, Burp, Beaniemoo, foxy, whitely, Bazzon/Barron, but there hasnt been really anything new cropping up on the clio front.

Ph-reebone has the stuff happening to his that we all wish we could afford to do/ pay for

cheers for the mention guys, made me giggle the second one

I think people are running out of ideas. The tuners have made things like ITB's, Turbo's and SC's common and easy to achieve with a few quid. .

not sure i agree with that at all to an extent, agreed that the tuning has taken a little bit of a downturn but how you tune it with the mentioned parts, how you can customizeparts to make these work / look better is still growing.

the projects section as said by many is good but does have alot of pap in, but thats the nature of CS...lots of people who don't want to go crazy

sadly the turini brigade is ever growing

 

[Daniel]

People on here are thicker than Hovis sometimes honestly.

I can't even be bothered to post anymore. Fcuking meekons the lot of you.

 

[Tunst]

People on here are thicker than Hovis sometimes honestly.

I can't even be bothered to post anymore. Fcuking meekons the lot of you.

Someone needs a hug :dapprove:

i have a few ideas brewing just need the funds to go with..


also me and my old man might be building a kit car with a v6 or v8 in it this summer :evil: this just depends how the rest of his divorce thing goes..

 

[Jay Payne]

What about classic Volvo thread? Im still waiting

 

[.GAZ.]

People on here are thicker than Hovis sometimes honestly.

I can't even be bothered to post anymore. Fcuking meekons the lot of you.

Fvckin LOL!!!! Now i know why a <3 you!!!!

 

[Gally]

I have heard Admin/Mods mention you could have bought this or something faster for x amount so don't blame just the members.

 

[Rob]

People on here are thicker than Hovis sometimes honestly.

I can't even be bothered to post anymore. Fcuking meekons the lot of you.

Oh you do make me chuckle (and tent)

 

[Will.]

People on here are thicker than Hovis sometimes honestly.

I can't even be bothered to post anymore. Fcuking meekons the lot of you.

c**t

 

[badgerbite]

+1 on do it

honestly how funking rapid would that c**t be.

I think it would explode with awesomeness!!! :approve:

 

[daydotz]

what happened to your new garage project