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Non-franchised dealer servicing



  The Jinx


Should be ok. Shouldve been dropped as part of the scrapping of "block exemption."

I think it tends to apply more to the extended part of the warranty, i.e. the 3rd year.
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


I have searched and found messages like this one, regarding Good Independents v the Main Stealers!!

Here is one girls experience - (I can vouch for the good local garage too!)

"I have had some bad experiences when I have taken my car- a Peugeot 206 into garages to be fixed/ serviced in the past. Being ripped off has been my speciality! Though not any more!!! I had been taking my car to the main dealers, because I didn’t want to break the warranty! The last time I took it, it was for a service, a run of the mill oil service. Three days later and £200 spent, my car was ready! I thought this couldn’t be right, but they know best, it is their job after all, and I was used to paying quite a lot for anything on my car when I had been to see them previously. Well now my warranty was up, would i continue going to this main dealer or do I try my luck with another garage, who deals with all cars, so I asked a lot of people.

What I found was a garage in north London. a modest family owned business. Very helpful, very friendly- especially as they didn’t treat me like an idiot because I was a girl. I had my car finished by the next day, fab! Everything was explained to me, about why the problem had occurred; I felt that I could actually ask a question no matter how inexperienced it sounded! They told me how they could fix it, but gave me a choice of what I could do. I got the idea that they didn’t actually want to rip me off, that they understood that people are not made of money, therefore customers like myself don’t want to throw their money away.

I told the mechanic there about my experiences with the main dealer and he couldn’t help himself but laugh! Laughing about how devious the main dealers are plus a lot of other garages! He said that the last service I had, the oil service should have cost at maximum £60-70! Not £200 charged by the main dealer!

Well now my car runs like a dream. I have sent so many people to them and have only heard praises about the garage. I just needed to tell the world that there is hope. if you want to find out about the garage the website is http://www.milesaheadmotors.co.ukwww.milesaheadmotors.co.uk - You will not be disappointed!"
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


Maybe we could compile a list of good local garages, as alternatives to Main Stealers!
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


Heres another review I found:

"Crestwood Motors Ltd are an independent garage situated in Halesowen within the Black Country area of the West Midlands. This garage really comes into its own in respect of servicing and repairs of your car.

I have used them now on about three occasions for servicing and the repair of mechanical faults and on each occasion I have found the service excellent, honest and of very good value. The staff are only too happy to give advice without payment and I can state that nothing that is not broken does not get repaired to your cost.

As an example, I went to a large franchise garage to have a service carried out and was informed by this franchise that i had faults which would have cost me nearly £300. I stated that I did not want the work carried out and I took my car to Crestwood garage for a second opinion and guess what - all my problems were solved for £50 which I was very impressed with, as you can imagine.

In this day and age, its a worry for any car owner to take their car to a garage and wait for that dreaded phone call stating that you need a bank loan for the repairs needed. If you think your car is falling apart, Crestwood will tell you if all it needs is more water in the washer bottle, and it will do that and not even charge you!

Crestwood Motors are situated at Unit 2 Vine Lane, Halesowen, West Midlands Tel: 01215503900 - Happy Motoring !!"

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Another review!

"I work part time at an independent garage (I am a student), and from first hand experience, I have seen just how much better the quality the work is, rather than that of main dealers and cut price places like Kwik Fit and Hi-Q. We have had many cars in which need repairs, having had parts fitted badly by other garages. The level of training at independent garages is higher than at the big chains, and the level of staff turnover is much lower. I know of a local main dealer who have a staff turnover rate of about one every 3 weeks.

Staff at independent garages seem to care much more about their customers as well. I know who I would rather have repair my car, when safety is important - the good independent garage!"
 

GR7

  Shiny red R32


Quote: Originally posted by mike8579 on 18 December 2003

Should be ok. Shouldve been dropped as part of the scrapping of "block exemption."
I think it tends to apply more to the extended part of the warranty, i.e. the 3rd year.
FROM AN OLD POST: "Jason Dawes of The Sunday Times (September issue) asks ”Are drivers being held to ransom by The Warranty System?”

"Car servicing seems to be one of those areas of commerce, like plumbing and wedding catering, where The normal rules of economics cease to apply. In The worst cases costs change arbitrarily, labour rates exceed your own salary by a factor of 10, and The price The customer pays for raw materials loses any relation to Their real value.

But things are about to change on 1st October. The Office of Fair Trading (OFT) has launched an investigation into The car warranty system to see if drivers are being ripped off by what might effectively be a cartel operation. The current status quo is well understood and accepted with resignation by most drivers. Fortunately, new cars typically come with a three-year warranty, covering The cost of labour and parts required to repair defects that come to light.

Manufacturers sometimes say that servicing outside their network is allowed and will not affect the warranty, provided it is carried out to an “equivalent standard”. But if, when something later goes wrong, a main dealer judges that the work was substandard, the warranty could be invalidated. The risks of leaving The franchised fold are therefore quite significant.

The OFT’s wide-ranging study will look at all aspects of The warranty system, but crucially it will assess The system’s impact on drivers — in other words whether competition is being stifled and prices hiked. A negative verdict from The OFT could lead to manufacturers being referred to The Competition Commission.

Last week we conducted our own survey and found that evidence of a significant price gulf between franchised and independent garages was immediately apparent and impossible to ignore. Franchised dealers were charging up to 74% more on average than independent garages in The same area to carry out The same service.

Researchers called three franchised and three independent garages to ask for servicing quotes for each of five different cars. In each case They used industry reference books to check that The service being quoted by The independent garage would include exactly The same checks as those made by The main dealer. For four of The five cars at least one franchised dealer quoted prices double those of The independent garage.

Sytner BMW in Romford, Essex, quoted £610 for a full service (known as “inspection 2” in BMW circles) of an M5 registered in 2000. Not far away, in Chelmsford, The independent BMW specialist MRR quoted £300 for The same service (although it suggested we should stick to a main dealer to protect our warranty, which from 1 October will change). Renault Stockport quoted £370 for a 36,000-mile full service of an Espace V6, while The local independent, Riverside, asked for £170. A 42,000-mile service of a Saab 95 SE turbo automatic was priced at £307 by a franchised dealer in Tunbridge Wells, and £140 by an independent in Hailsham.

Of course the main dealerships are likely to have higher overheads because they have plusher buildings in better locations. And a main dealer may well have greater obligations in some areas, for instance to keep spares in stock for old models, even if there is no profit in it. Car makers also invest more heavily in staff training. And the coffee may be better. But while the higher charges may be understandable, they still mean drivers whose warranties lock them into a franchised dealer network are being sentenced to paying much more.

There is also growing concern that as new-car prices are driven to record lows, dealerships are looking to servicing to soften The blow. Earlier this year a survey of hourly main-dealer labour rates found They had increased by an average of 44% over The past five years. The survey, by Warranty Direct, a company that insures against breakdowns, found a BMW dealer had The highest hourly rate, of £115 including VAT. “It’s ironic that labour rates have soared as new-car prices tumble,” says Duncan McClure-Fisher, The firm’s managing director. “The odds are clearly stacked against The consumer and in favour of The franchised dealer network.”

When The air-conditioning failed on his Mercedes E300, Jim Scott, a marketing consultant from Bradwell, Derbyshire, took his car to a main dealer who quoted £1,300 plus Vat to fix it. A local independent later solved The problem for £106. With that experience, would he allow The independent to service his new cars in future? “I think that if I had a warranty I’d be worried about breaking its terms because of The subsequent costs,” he says. "
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  i3


Be very careful about this. i would check from the horses mouth.
 
  172 cup,s2 rs turbo


block exemption now means if it is a vat registered garage and they use original parts,service it as per renault recommendations and use the correct oil etc it wont invalidate your warranty.
 


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