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  Titanium 182
Am with Gally on this one!

You've really got to drive one to appreciate a decent FRP

If I actually had a garage I'd buy one.
 

Gally

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The problem with judging the Frp before driving one is you have it in your brain that it's just going to be like a Puma, no bad thing but it's just so far removed from one it's scary.

If it was anywhere near as close i'd be in a Puma just now.

Again what I would say is it maybe felt more special, more of an occasion because I love Ford's and the whole heritage that goes with it. The colour and the looks in person just looks so so good. Can you tell I want another!
 
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  Titanium 182
The problem with judging the Frp before driving one is you have it in your brain that it's just going to be like a Puma, no bad thing but it's just so far removed from one it's scary.

If it was anywhere near as close i'd be in a Puma just now.

Again what I would say is it maybe felt more special, more of an occasion because I love Ford's and the whole heritage that goes with it. The colour and the looks in person just looks so so good. Can you tell I want another!

Awaits trophy for sale thread! ha
 

Ph1 Tom

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It doesn't feel like it should have a turbo though.

It maybe should have had more power but these days i'm glad it didn't. Cheap tax, insurance, fuel and easy engine to fix.

I know where you're coming from. Perhaps a Duratec with cams and ITBs would be more suited to it.
 

Gavin.

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Personally i'm just not a Ford fan, I have never understood the fascination with them. Even down to the old Sierra Cosworth's. Each to their own and all that and some are kept in immaculate condition for their age, just not my thing.
 
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Price doesn't seem to bad, Currently one on eBay with 41k for £9500.

Surely the value will only go up, well I would presume so anyway going off fords history. Still I would rather have a mk1 FRS.
 

Ph1 Tom

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I always wanted to see the standard engine on itbs! ;)

They're not bad in ITBs tbh but the blocks have Nikasil liners and they don't last for long at high revs. Decent engine until they start going through 15w50 like its using it for fuel. Duratec is very similar and a much better option.
 
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  09Accord 2.4 3.0i Z4
and and Tunst just so you know Gravy says an Ek9 definitely isn't just an old Honda...

Clearly my K*ob is massive for a EK9 and Honda in general for me to supposedly state an EK9 is not a old Honda, congrats on that buddy.

Just to clarify, I have driven one, and a very good car.

Clearly using the EK9 as an example escaped a few minds, saying I rather spend much less on an old Honda which will be an great example (And I've seen a fair few examples for much less), then 10k for a what is a Puma.

Daniel, I totally agree, RS500, escort cosworth, they're great cars I wish I could own one day, and happily pay today prices for them, They're cars that will only go up in price, But a Puma...Cmon!

Sorry for the double post, (please merge if possible)

I think I've got the wrong end of the stick from one of the posts "Have I actually driven one" In my mind I thought you ment the type R, not the FRP, sorry for that.

No I haven't driven one, and its probably an excellent car to drive, but in my eyes its just a nice looking Ford Puma that looks like its just come out the factory, and i'll happily pay maybe 3k for.

I was just stating I rather spend less on a different car where people won't just stereotype it as "Its just a Ford Puma."

Didn't mean any offence by it, its just my personal feelings towards that car.
 
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  Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
It doesn't feel like it should have a turbo though.

That is a very strange comment to make IMHO.

What do cars that need a turbo feel like?

With a proper set up with throttle angle waste gate duty cycle mapping and a turbo spec that doesn't run out of puff with high revs I think it would be a fantastic set up.

The trouble with the FRP in standard form is and handling massively massively out performs the engine so it makes it feel like the engine under performs more than it actually does.

Imagine a Clio trophy with a mildly tuned K4M (1.6) and that's a bit like the racing puma in my eyes.

280bhp would be absolutely perfect I think.
 

Gally

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Agreed in a way mate. Well put.

I always think Frp, light and nimble, highly strung. Vtec yo etc! ;) Frs and ST suits the turbo engine.
 

Ph1 Tom

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Clearly my K*ob is massive for a EK9 and Honda in general for me to supposedly state an EK9 is not a old Honda, congrats on that buddy.

Just to clarify, I have driven one, and a very good car.

Clearly using the EK9 as an example escaped a few minds, saying I rather spend much less on an old Honda which will be an great example (And I've seen a fair few examples for much less), then 10k for a what is a Puma.

Daniel, I totally agree, RS500, escort cosworth, they're great cars I wish I could own one day, and happily pay today prices for them, They're cars that will only go up in price, But a Puma...Cmon!

Sorry for the double post, (please merge if possible)

I think I've got the wrong end of the stick from one of the posts "Have I actually driven one" In my mind I thought you ment the type R, not the FRP, sorry for that.

No I haven't driven one, and its probably an excellent car to drive, but in my eyes its just a nice looking Ford Puma that looks like its just come out the factory, and i'll happily pay maybe 3k for.

I was just stating I rather spend less on a different car where people won't just stereotype it as "Its just a Ford Puma."

Didn't mean any offence by it, its just my personal feelings towards that car.

The Racing Puma was the last car out of Tickford, there are very few of the original 500 remaining. The box is very close ratio and even better if you get the LSD version. The brakes are superb, proper motorsport squeeling spec Alcons. The standard suspension is Sachs/Eibach. Alcantara Sparco interior. Brilliant car out of the box

Get some good tyres on it and it'll out handle most cars around. All it needs imo is more power. Tuned Duratec would be ideal as its not much heavier than the Zetec SE lump (both being all alloy) but it can handle prolonged revs much better.
 
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  Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
Clearly my K*ob is massive for a EK9 and Honda in general for me to supposedly state an EK9 is not a old Honda, congrats on that buddy.

Just to clarify, I have driven one, and a very good car.

Clearly using the EK9 as an example escaped a few minds, saying I rather spend much less on an old Honda which will be an great example (And I've seen a fair few examples for much less), then 10k for a what is a Puma.

Daniel, I totally agree, RS500, escort cosworth, they're great cars I wish I could own one day, and happily pay today prices for them, They're cars that will only go up in price, But a Puma...Cmon!

Sorry for the double post, (please merge if possible)

I think I've got the wrong end of the stick from one of the posts "Have I actually driven one" In my mind I thought you ment the type R, not the FRP, sorry for that.

No I haven't driven one, and its probably an excellent car to drive, but in my eyes its just a nice looking Ford Puma that looks like its just come out the factory, and i'll happily pay maybe 3k for.

I was just stating I rather spend less on a different car where people won't just stereotype it as "Its just a Ford Puma."

Didn't mean any offence by it, its just my personal feelings towards that car.

The EP3 is one car that was almost so good but IMHO failed.

Ive had a lot to do with these recently and as standard the handling is disappointing, the rear end feels very disconnected.

The engine is an awesome unit but IMO the Vtec comes in too late as standard making them terrible if you miss judge a gear change and it drops out of the magic.

I think all issues with the EP3 are more that fixable but its just so damn expensive to do so. K-100 or K-Pro is loads of money, cams give epic improvements but again, cost loads, by the time you've got progress anti rollbars and coil overs you've spent more than the cost of buying another 2 EP3's.
 
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  09Accord 2.4 3.0i Z4
The Racing Puma was the last car out of Tickford, there are very few of the original 500 remaining. The box is very close ratio and even better if you get the LSD version. The brakes are superb, proper motorsport squeeling spec Alcons. The standard suspension is Sachs/Eibach. Alcantara Sparco interior. Brilliant car out of the box

Get some good tyres on it and it'll out handle most cars around. All it needs imo is more power. Tuned Duratec would be ideal as its not much heavier than the Zetec SE lump (both being all alloy) but it can handle prolonged revs much better.

That's actually interesting to know, Just a shame as said its only pumping out 150BHP, At least 200BHP and I bet that would of been a cracking car.
 
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Hearing people use the ' it's just an old ford' card gets old real quick. Reminds me of when you hear old people talk about films on the train.


Eyes be rollin'
 

Tunst

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That's actually interesting to know, Just a shame as said its only pumping out 150BHP, At least 200BHP and I bet that would of been a cracking car.

Power doesnt always make a car fun though imo.. I had more fun in my 1.2 than i have had in my 172, 182 and megane...
 
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  09Accord 2.4 3.0i Z4
Power doesnt always make a car fun though imo.. I had more fun in my 1.2 than i have had in my 172, 182 and megane...

True, I have huge amounts of fun in my 1.2 on the twisties, still wish it had a bit more power. :cool:
 

Gally

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Turns out the one I linked earlier has 130k miles! :dapprove:
 
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cracking handling car, just lacks power and can't get any more power out standard engine unless spend mega bucks! Such shame, needed a turbo lump
 

Ph1 Tom

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Just out of curiosity how? I always thought the FRP lump was already quite highly strung.

Bigger cams (exhaust cam is quite conservative), ITBs, headwork or boost. Same as any other engine!

You're looking at 185bhp with cams, headwork and ITBs. Also decent torque as the VVT is continuously variable.

I'd expect them to respond very well to a rotrex with a better exhaust cam only. I haven't seen it done though.

There are a few turbo ones knocking around. Most I've seen is 280-300bhp with a full build. You can do 220bhp on low-ish boost with a decomp plate
 
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  Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
That engine makes the F4R look fit for a lawnmower.

Steel crank
Steel rods
Nicocil (sp) lined
Solid lifters
Girdle plate
Alloy block and head

These are just some of the plus points as standard.
 

Gally

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can't get any more power out standard engine unless spend mega bucks! Such shame, needed a turbo lump

Both statements are wrong. Does a Lambo need a turbo? Why does it need a Turbo? Why can't it just have more N/A power?
 

gez 172

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FLOL at the people saying its not worth 10K!

So what if you can buy a 400hp Evo for less than that?

​Not everyone wants an Evo...

I personally think an FRP is stunning
 

Adamm.

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Yup just take a certain unique type of person to pay the money I guess.

Also an f4r maybe only fit for a lawnmower but plenty of them still clock a fair bit over 100k which is most important no?
 

gez 172

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Huge arches, Alcon calipers, Recaro seats, stunning colour, rare, amazing handling, plentiful power. Option with LSD fitted.


Ohhhhh, and did i say stunning. I'd have one instead of my 200 if I didn't need a car everyday use.
 

gez 172

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I think the FRP is a car you don't come across often, being rare makes it that bit more of a special car, and will hold its value.

only issue, RUST.
 

Stefan.

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It is what a trophy is for a clio ​kind of, by the rarity, seats, special dampers etc

People saying you could get this or that for the money, you could but that isn't the point.

Gally will have another one by the end pf the year i reckon..
 


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