Oil Coolers

[T.Trophy]

Anyone have any idea on the best/cheapest place to get a mocal 19 row oil cooler with braided hoses and a thermostat plate?

Cheapest place I've found so far is on ebay at £163 + £10 P+P

Cheers

Steve

 

[Jonny1*2]

ebay mate, one sec....

..... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CLIO-1-8-16V-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5ad8ce7946

Cheapest I've found them. You having to mod to get the 19row in? thought 13 was all you could get on the cross member?

 

[Earpl]

no thermostat with that though?

 

[Jonny1*2]

scroll down, its an option

 

[b33fy172]

Surely 19 rows is a bit of an overkill?

You don't want to overcool the oil!

 

[DMS]

Bear in mind his car's turbo'd.

 

[b33fy172]

Ah right didn't know that. Still I've heard a few horror story of cars overcooling even when the coolers are taped up etc!

 

[Luke.]

are there any advantage to fitting an oil cooler to a standard 182?

 

[GodSpeed]

are there any advantage to fitting an oil cooler to a standard 182?

If you give it hell on track it is a must IMO, oil temp got very close to 140C on track after 10minutes. I now have thermo plate and a 13row. No way a 19row will fit under the cross member.

 

[richard691]

Would a 16 row fit under cross member?

 

[GodSpeed]

Would a 16 row fit under cross member?

If you use banjo connections it may fit.

 

[Nick r26r]

i have a 16 row oil cooler for sale , and it sits fine on the cross member , you want a 16 row if your running over 200bhp , 19 row is a bit overkill even for a clio turbo , i think 19row is for big turbo cars

 

[Mark One]

An oil cooler is well worth it for track work IMO. It's a must on older F7Ps and F7Rs

If fitting, a thermostatic plate is a must. It prevents overcooling of the oil.

 

[richard691]

anyone know what thermostatic plate is needed for a 16 row oil cooler, not sure of what fitting i need from the following web page:

http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/On_line_shop_Oilstats_30.html

 

[Sargara]

Sorry to go offtopic but how vulnerable are the Clio 1*2 to this problem. I mean the whole thinning of oil under heavy track use to cause engine damage?

 

[Fred@BTM]

^decent oil, no problem

 

[T.Trophy]

Right after a little bit of trial and error a 16 row oil cooler is to big. Unfortunatley with me having an intercooler under the front cross member the only options were above the cross member or behind the drivers side fog lamp. I even went to pirtek to see if the could swage some low profile unions onto my hoses. However they dont have anything smaller than the mocal kit. It is literally 5-10mm to tall (thanks to the hoses and unions). I did consider ditching the fog lamps but I'm trying to retain OE looks, So I now have a 13 row cooler en route

 

[scotty2hotty81]

let me know how you get on mate, thinking of getting one for mine.

 

[T.Trophy]

No probs mate, I'll take some snaps and email them to you. I'm glad I didn't opt for the 19 row LOL. I could of trimmed the grill/bumper to get the 16 row in but it would've looked poo whe you opened the bonnet.

 

[Coops Mk1]

i have a tiny little one.......oil cooler i mean..........ahem

13 row but only about 20cms wide, more than sufficient for my f7p turbo ;-)

 

[LeeJSA]

One of these is what you want....

together with a sandiwch thermostat plate....

 

[Coops Mk1]

mine has same thermostatic plate, but its half the width of that

 

[LeeJSA]

I've got 2 plates on there - ones thermostat and the other is take offs for gauges!!

 

[Martin.]

@GrahamS two plates on this one above.

 

[Laine_16v]

I've got a 13 row cooler @ 400bhp. It's of course thermostatically controlled, but it still cools toooo much, used to struggle to get it over 75 deg even when driving hard. I've now fitted a slideable cover on the front so i can cover 50% of it for everyday use, then uncover it if needs be on a track day e.t.c

 

[scotiamr2t]

@Laine_16v surely if its thermostatically controlled the oil will bypass the cooler until the valve in the sandwhich plate opens? which i assume will be at 80 or 90 degrees which is the usual temps for sandwhich plates

 

[GrahamS]

@Laine_16v surely if its thermostatically controlled the oil will bypass the cooler until the valve in the sandwhich plate opens? which i assume will be at 80 or 90 degrees which is the usual temps for sandwhich plates

Mocal thermostatic plates are 82deg IIRC

 

[Laine_16v]

@Laine_16v surely if its thermostatically controlled the oil will bypass the cooler until the valve in the sandwhich plate opens? which i assume will be at 80 or 90 degrees which is the usual temps for sandwhich plates

YOu would think so yes. I am using a normal Mocal plate and stat (not an ebay billet job). But the SPA oil temp gauge just shows it doesnt reach temp adequatley. SO either its a faulty thermostat, or the thermostat naturally never fully closes and has a small bypass allowing a small amount of oil to be chilled regardless. It doesnt bother me that much if im honest though.

 

[16v-clio]

YOu would think so yes. I am using a normal Mocal plate and stat (not an ebay billet job). But the SPA oil temp gauge just shows it doesnt reach temp adequatley. SO either its a faulty thermostat, or the thermostat naturally never fully closes and has a small bypass allowing a small amount of oil to be chilled regardless. It doesnt bother me that much if im honest though.

I could be wrong here as it was some time ago I was looking into it but I believe you are right when you say the thermostat is never fully closed and there is always a small bypass

 

[MarkX]

I could be wrong here as it was some time ago I was looking into it but I believe you are right when you say the thermostat is never fully closed and there is always a small bypass

my cooler also with a mocal thermostatic plate gets heat in it very quickly so I'd say you're right