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Love the bit about the nice power curve and beyond it pulls nicely - LOL
Then the bit about why you do not need climate!!!!
And then, less to go wrong - LOL
Dear oh dear - its a good car, don't need to make things up!!!! LOL
Turbo LY R27
My brakes are on 31k and i haven't changed them once. Its never been tracked ill admit, bit it has been given some real stick, def did last summer. Tyes wear, but no worse than any other RS.
As for stone chips, just make sure your in front lol!
Black 197
When did i make something up or i did i miss something reviewing my own car ?
Clio 197 08
Alright mate, let me no! Did you check the 25th?
Black 197
F me mate shall i buy a calendar to put it all up ?? You lot meet every week or something ?
BMW 320d M-Sport
Glad you're enjoying the car. Had mine 7 1/2 months now and absolutely love it - people look and wonder what it is, it has good road presence, drives lovely and feels quite solid. You've bought a great car, only thing I'm unsure of is the Cup spoiler without the rest of the carbon pieces, but it is growing on me slowly.
Once again, enjoy!
Once again, enjoy!
Black 197
Dont worry the skirts and splitter will be added very soon, Got a baby on the way so cant go mad but need to be discrete in the £££££ department too lol
Black 197
You sure your meeting for cars or is it a place for dogging ????
Dogging im all in pmsl
Black 197
Sign me up !
Will let you know for sure come sunday morn mate, as i say i'll let preggers have her say then take it from there
Black 197
Gift of the gab son ! If i can talk her into getting the 197 im sure the meet will be a piece of cake - "hoping hormones are sane" - pmsl
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Pretty confident not so long ago when the 182 came out, all the 172 owners who went to the 182 were chanting this same noise.
Should be intresting to see how so much super dooper'erer (sp) the Clio 200 will be
Yep
182 Trophy
i can see where your coming from with what you have said and congrats on the 197 too mate
my dad had a white 197 cup and i must say it looked stunning, the problems lied in the driving, the box is way too short if you ever want to go on a long journey as motorway drives = headache, the mpg is absalutey awfull and we couldnt get the 197 above 29 no matter how slow and high geared we drove, so people saying they get high 30s are talking shizer,
my dad got sick of it and for the money it cost it wasnt worth keeping, hes just collected his 55plate 182 today which cost half the price and is allready proving to be a much nicer car to own/drive for him
torque wise the 182 has it in bags compared with the 197, the power is all over the rev range and not only at 7k unlike the 197
it all comes down to 'different strokes', but imho the 197 would have suited a 1600 turbo lump better, as the mpg and driveability would have been way better, low down torque etc. i think renault have realy messed up with adding so much more weight for little extra power
i do still love both, bhp per tonne is better in the 182 yet the 197 handels better
im loving the understated look of the 182 a lot more allready.
is the 197 worth double the price of the 182 is the question
my dad had a white 197 cup and i must say it looked stunning, the problems lied in the driving, the box is way too short if you ever want to go on a long journey as motorway drives = headache, the mpg is absalutey awfull and we couldnt get the 197 above 29 no matter how slow and high geared we drove, so people saying they get high 30s are talking shizer,
my dad got sick of it and for the money it cost it wasnt worth keeping, hes just collected his 55plate 182 today which cost half the price and is allready proving to be a much nicer car to own/drive for him
torque wise the 182 has it in bags compared with the 197, the power is all over the rev range and not only at 7k unlike the 197
it all comes down to 'different strokes', but imho the 197 would have suited a 1600 turbo lump better, as the mpg and driveability would have been way better, low down torque etc. i think renault have realy messed up with adding so much more weight for little extra power
i do still love both, bhp per tonne is better in the 182 yet the 197 handels better
im loving the understated look of the 182 a lot more allready.
is the 197 worth double the price of the 182 is the question
Rally bus
are you sure you were reading the mpg and not the average mph?
clio 172 cup
+1
Golf 7R
Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
I wouldnt buy a new 197, the rate in which there depreciating is eye watering
Black 197
+1 in every shape and form, sure it's not any faster but for everything else it's win win IMO, I'm loving my 197 and wished I'd traded my 182 in years ago
I had a drive in a 197 before buying the BMW. I was impressed, mostly by the improvement in quality but also the overall feel - like everything had been tightened up. I didn't get a chance to boot it as it was very busy on the roads but first impressions; it was nice.
Compared to the 172 Cup, which I owned at the time, I felt it was too 'safe' and grown up for my liking. The Cup was just so raw and special that I actually thought I might just keep it. I then thought about it a bit more and decided that there were not really any new hot hatches out there that had the same old-school buzz about them, that safety had taken over in terms of weight etc.
I also tried a Megane R26 which I liked but thought, if I'm looking at this size of car and price, I might as well see what else is out there...
...and hello 330ci! Okay, it's bigger but you get sooooo much more for your money. 30mpg, an awesome engine and even better build quality. RWD too!
So in a way, the 197 kind of put me off hot hatches. I don't feel like it would have given me the buzz I got from the Cup, so it was time to try something new. I do think they look fantastic though and I wish I'd had more time to try it but it was a bit of a sad day tbh.
All I can say now is, I will not be looking at French cars for a while.
Sorry for hijacking your thread!
Gaz
Compared to the 172 Cup, which I owned at the time, I felt it was too 'safe' and grown up for my liking. The Cup was just so raw and special that I actually thought I might just keep it. I then thought about it a bit more and decided that there were not really any new hot hatches out there that had the same old-school buzz about them, that safety had taken over in terms of weight etc.
I also tried a Megane R26 which I liked but thought, if I'm looking at this size of car and price, I might as well see what else is out there...
...and hello 330ci! Okay, it's bigger but you get sooooo much more for your money. 30mpg, an awesome engine and even better build quality. RWD too!
So in a way, the 197 kind of put me off hot hatches. I don't feel like it would have given me the buzz I got from the Cup, so it was time to try something new. I do think they look fantastic though and I wish I'd had more time to try it but it was a bit of a sad day tbh.
All I can say now is, I will not be looking at French cars for a while.
Sorry for hijacking your thread!
Gaz
good to hear your write up rossy, and nice to hear that your owner experience has lived up to your excitement and anticipation. The additional 7k i paid for my 197 when i traded in my 182 1 year ago has been well worth it and i dont miss the 182 at all.
I think the whole "grown up" comments around 197 ownership is where the 197 divides opinion. The 182 and 172 shape clios are 8 years old now (172 51 plates), and expectations of refinement, build quality etc have moved on loads since then. Some will still appreciate the rawness of the 182 and 172 (which i translate to lack of refinement and inferior build quality - no escaping this), but those owners who look for a bit more than an old school hot hatch cannot fail to see the appeal of the 197. It delivers a huge amount at a very competitive price.
I can also see where gaz is coming from, my 197 will be gone by the weekend as i too will be trading to a 3.0 BMW, but as there is no fair comparision to be made between the 2, i still believe in the hot hatch category the 197 offers the best all round package (including value for money against a mini cooper works for example).
I think the whole "grown up" comments around 197 ownership is where the 197 divides opinion. The 182 and 172 shape clios are 8 years old now (172 51 plates), and expectations of refinement, build quality etc have moved on loads since then. Some will still appreciate the rawness of the 182 and 172 (which i translate to lack of refinement and inferior build quality - no escaping this), but those owners who look for a bit more than an old school hot hatch cannot fail to see the appeal of the 197. It delivers a huge amount at a very competitive price.
I can also see where gaz is coming from, my 197 will be gone by the weekend as i too will be trading to a 3.0 BMW, but as there is no fair comparision to be made between the 2, i still believe in the hot hatch category the 197 offers the best all round package (including value for money against a mini cooper works for example).
What BMW you going for?
its a Z4 coupe 3.0si sport auto - pics and thread to follow in a week or so!
Good write up.
Be a little more time before you can objectively compare mind - a day isn't enough.
Sweet! You'll love the engine - I'm sure you've already tried it. I'm not a fan of the auto but the smooth power delivery is quality! It never feels like it's trying.
Switching from the Clio to this is such a difference.
Not so where I live. Seems there are loads kicking about.
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