Part number help

[Adey.]

sorry, superchargers going on both our cars as lots keep slipping the bottom pullys we thought fitting the meggy items would save a costly rebuild later on

 

[bomber]

Supercharging it, I knew something was going to go wrong. Like you say Adey, we'll try the key part number and see where it takes us. Fred, do you have a part number for the bolt off hand? No worries if not, haven't measured imthe old one yet

 

[Fred@BTM]

na mate, everything is at work

 

[Adey.]

P/N 7703070007 for the woodruff key

 

[bomber]

Ok thanks for the help on the rest of it, hopefully have some better luck with it in the week

 

[Gray]

Something was bound to go wrong! FFS

 

[Adey.]

Just bombers not normal 172 to blame lol

 

[Gray]

hahaha... This is really random!

I've never heard of a different crank fitted to an F4R :S

 

[ditz]

Got to admit I've never seen a 172 crank like that

 

[bomber]

Wonder if quades does too, the 2 cars with silly power for the mods lol

 

[Adey.]

Nah ures was just built by the yts kid and he put a williams crank in lol

 

[ditz]

French yts kids building engines christ!

 

[sideways danny]

i dont understand why you have that crank. WTF

 

[Fred@BTM]

laguna bottom end me thinks (or some other F4R non RS)

 

[Gray]

Good call that Fred.. Could be a possibility?!

Are the cranks interchangeable on F4R's


Proper random this :S

 

[bomber]

Cambelt pulley is different to the one in the gates kit as well...

Left came off the car, right is the one that came with the kit. Wrong kit or wrong car? It's the pulley with the groves in it, the rest all match

 

[Fred@BTM]

phs2 on the left, phs1 on the right

 

[Adey.]

so he has an oddball crank and ph2 pullys? proper weird

 

[Gray]

The plot thickens...

I thought the PH-2 cambelt pully / idlers did not fit "directly" on the PH-1?

 

[Fred@BTM]

probably a bottom end off a laguna/megane i reckon, ever had a compression test?

 

[Fred@BTM]

The plot thickens...

I thought the PH-2 cambelt pully / idlers did not fit "directly" on the PH-1?

aye you can run a phs1 cambelt kit on a phs2 engine (and vice versa) if you use the correct pulley spacer for the idler, i'm pretty sure i've done it before

 

[Tom@JMS]

I'd suspect it has had a rebuild / replacement. We had an early ph1 with a similar pulley oddity a couple of months ago, didn't check the crank however. It had an engine replacement on the service history from a main dealer and as such ran ph2 type pulleys with the associated spacers.

 

[bomber]

Oh FFS, do Renault sell the ph2 pulley and bolt on it's own? Who the hell built this bloody car, it's only had 2 owners before me will all receipts, unless the random engine rebuild reciept went missing. Never had comp test, but makes good power at least

 

[Fred@BTM]

don't you mean you need the phs1 spacer and bolt?

 

[Tom@JMS]

No, the ABS pulleys are only avaliable as a complete kit - the spacers I'm not so sure about.

 

[Fred@BTM]

No, the pulleys are only avaliable as a complete kit - the spacers I'm not so sure about.

na you can buy them seperate (all of it)

 

[bomber]

So in theory I can get the spacer for the ph1 and get it back together..... minus the small issue of the crank key

 

[Tom@JMS]

mmm that's not what dialogys tells me, are you talking non OEM (as in OEM without Reno logos)?

 

[Fred@BTM]

hang on start again, this is confusing!

what lower idler came off the car?

 

[Fred@BTM]

mmm that's not what dialogys tells me, are you talking non OEM (as in OEM without Reno logos)?

oem from the dealer, diaologys is s**t, you need P@rts system (yes that's how its spelt)

 

[Tom@JMS]

ph2 idler was on the car.

For reference:
Ph1 gates code: k025507xs
Ph2 gates code: k035507xs


You can either carry on as you are or move it over to ph1 spec, I wouldn't be too bothered tbh.

 

[Fred@BTM]

i can post you out a phs2 ilder as a swap for a phs1?

 

[bomber]

Left came off engine. Now I've confused myself, I need phs2 spacer/idler

 

[bomber]

Cheers Fred, will get mine in the post Tuesday. Shall I ring Tuesday to give you my addy?

 

[Fred@BTM]

no, you just need a phs2 idler, easy i can sort that, got them on the shelf

 

[bomber]

Ah yea of course, already a phs2 spacer on it. Thanks for the help. Want to come down and finish all for me lol?

 

[Fred@BTM]

not with that crank! LOL

how much power did it make?

 

[bomber]

174 pretty much standard, then 192 with matches inlets, remap and v6 airbox etc. Both at Powerstation on rr days with everything making 'normal' power. Was still making power at 7800 when it hit the limiter weirdly

Worried about charging it now...

 

[Fred@BTM]

don't listen to powerstation figures, load of crap!

 

[bomber]

Appreciate that, but before and after both on same rr for some reference. Being mapped by Matt eventually so cab get a true figure afterwards, if it ever gets done. This isnt helping my 4th feb deadline lol