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Pedal box - OBP Track Pro



dmacmillan

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio Sport 172
Hi All,

Has anyone installed the Clio OBP Track Pro pedal box?

The product is marketed as 'plug in play' but has been anything but for the gent preparing my car (and he has 35+ years of race car prep).

Any assistance would be gratefully received.

Cheers,
David
 
Hi All,

Has anyone installed the Clio OBP Track Pro pedal box?

The product is marketed as 'plug in play' but has been anything but for the gent preparing my car (and he has 35+ years of race car prep).

Any assistance would be gratefully received.

Cheers,
David
Is it the 30 degree bulkhead angled one?

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dmacmillan

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio Sport 172
Hi All,

Has anyone installed the Clio OBP Track Pro pedal box?

The product is marketed as 'plug in play' but has been anything but for the gent preparing my car (and he has 35+ years of race car prep).

Any assistance would be gratefully received.

Cheers,
David
Is it the 30 degree bulkhead angled one?

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Is it the 30 degree bulkhead angled one?

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Yea
Is it the 30 degree bulkhead angled one?

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Hey Mash,

Gee wizz, that was quick.

Yes, I believe so. We have having serious issues. In discussion with OBP but no resolution yet. I can PM you observations from my guy.

Did the floor pans change at some point? I have a Mk 2 (Sept 2001).

Welcome any advice.

Cheers,
David
 
"Plug and play" thats where they went wrong.

Youll find that exactly the same set up on pretty much most cars pluug and play kit.

It being the looses term possible. Yeah chuck some pics up on here mate, but essentially I built a platform for mine out of some steel square bar. Then welded captive nuts in that to bolt it to the bar. Then bolted the backplate against the bullhead. It needed exta belly support for it also...

What i would suggest is sending it back and getting a billet one, pressed steel/folded steel ones bend, billet ones do not

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dmacmillan

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio Sport 172
"Plug and play" thats where they went wrong.

Youll find that exactly the same set up on pretty much most cars pluug and play kit.

It being the looses term possible. Yeah chuck some pics up on here mate, but essentially I built a platform for mine out of some steel square bar. Then welded captive nuts in that to bolt it to the bar. Then bolted the backplate against the bullhead. It needed exta belly support for it also...

What i would suggest is sending it back and getting a billet one, pressed steel/folded steel ones bend, billet ones do not

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Mash, you're a champ!

This from the guy (endeavouring to) install the pedal box ...

"On arrival, inspection showed it to be bent, it was missing hardware and quite frankly never looked like going to fit this car.
There were no instructions to fit a Clio, I believe there are for other models but not clio. Then I have an email from OBP stating that this is a universal unit ie it fits several cars ( but not particularly Clio )
It was clear firstly that the floor brace ( a long reinforcement about 13mm high had to be unstitched from the floor of the car....refer photograph # 2 that I had sent some time ago and Photo # 1 of this attachment
So after reshaping the pedal box frame which incidentally is nothing like the Floor to Firewall shape of the car, we assembled the cylinders to try to gauge the shape a little better. Still no joy with that either.
If you refer photos 2, 3 and 4 of this attacment I have bent a template of required shape of the unit versus actual floor / firewall shape. Absolutely nothing like it but could be made to fit at extreme with many hours welding and fabricating.
So we sat the unit in the car , roughly in a position that suited all the angles of the firewall ( roughly 45.6 degrees ) We could not live with the pedal angle at this position ( even allowing for pushrod and throttle stop adjustment.) the pedals leant back towards the seat severely , yes it could be understood that they might reach 90 degrees on full application but the angle of ones foot to start with would severely hamper ankle movement.
As this unit possibly is sold to club racers, we assumed the same club racers would have a race steering wheel, a race seat and a Roll cage so we bolted the seat into its rearmost position ( please note that the mountings for Davids seat are already some 100mm rearwards of the original mounts.)
This still made it impossible to withdraw our legs enough to operate the pedals yet clear the steering wheel ( which is already extended towards the driver )
So then we asked David for a measurement while seated in his road car from the rearmost squab corner of the seat to the centre of the mounted overhead brake pedal. We can't even get within 100mm of that.
So we held the standard pedal box to his race car, we measured directly from the firewall to the centre of the brake pedal....this was 225mm. We sat the OBP unit back in and performed the same measurement from the vertical firewall face....this was 312mm, we have lost some 87mm of foot space over original and yet this is advertised as a direct replacement unit, in fact I think the sales blurb says "no modification, no welding" "

I've loaded a couple of images for context.
In discussions with OBP. Racking my grey matter on what to do; your suggestions are top draw.

Many thanks for your input.

Kind regards,
David

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Yep if you were to bolt them floor to floor they sit at a f**king awful angle, they pedals are way to angled towards you and if you sit the pedals further back to allow for a less anklle breaking position it doesn't allow for full throttle application!

I raised the front up reltively high so it tipped the pedals backwards thats how I got round it.

Would 100% get a front facing/underheel mounted billet mc so your heels rest ontop of the master cylinders...

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Yep, positioning to allow for leg room while not having to extend your colum 50mm aswell as move your sesting position back 500 is near impossible in a clio with a rear mounted master cylinder pedal box mate :/ especially if your above 5'11

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dmacmillan

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio Sport 172
Yep, positioning to allow for leg room while not having to extend your colum 50mm aswell as move your sesting position back 500 is near impossible in a clio with a rear mounted master cylinder pedal box mate :/ especially if your above 5'11

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Many thanks Mash.

The guy doing the work has invested oodles of hours trying to solve this gordian knott.

Needless to say, I'm less than impressed.

Cheers,
David
 
  172
Curiously the same reinforcement isn't present on the passenger side though? (Unless I'm seriously blind) Perhaps it's a market driven thing & only required on the side where you put a big hole in the BIW for servo?
 


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