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People selling clio's that are ''Finished''.



  ph1 track weapon
i just tend to buy them, swap standard parts for 'track parts', do a few track days and then swap the parts back again, usually selling the car for more than i first paid for it!

i never have and never will spend loads on a car as i just dont see the point, especially with clios as its so easy to swap parts with people!
 
I had this problem on my moped.
Typical 16 year old, new jets, new carb, 70cc kit, gienalli exhaust, new variator, new rollers, new belt, new shocks, body mods, etc etc.
I paid £550 for the bike, it had done about 4000 miles, is was mint.
I spent about £1000+ on it. Now its worth s**t and rotting in my garden.
I actually felt so guilty and wanting to apologise to the bike for what I'd done. LOL

Only 1 year older but I'm not bloody touching the engine on mine in terms of induction, valves, compression, TBs etc. Only thing I want from it is it to look nice, look clean and sound nice. (Hence KTec Exhaust).

I suppose its a learning curve. At the end of the day, if you've got your mind on something and someone says its a bad idea, are you going to give a feck? I know I didn't. Just let them learn the hard way, and laugh.
 
  260% JCW
It does seem a bit crazy to spend loads of money and then sell on but each to there own.

Ive had mine for 5 years now, Ive made some track orientated mods and bought the best i could afford at them time. Id love to do more track days in her but she's a hobby/project and other things come first IMO. Its all paid for and i know if i sell it i'll not get alot so now its just a weekend toy.
 

Tunst

ClioSport Club Member
  Focus ST225, Focus E
When i can afford it il be spending alot on mine :cool: for the price i paid for it, it would be pointless selling it standard or modded.. Il be running this thing till it dies. :evil:
 
  Black Gold Trophy
Agreed, people modify it to the point where it's either impractical, past the point of no return or they've just reached the point where there's nothing more they can do to modify it.
 

jenic

ClioSport Club Member
The problem is people modifying their daily.

Its just not practical and become tiresome quickly.

Mine would still be 100% standard if I had to use it daily I reckon.
 

gez 172

ClioSport Club Member
  Defender 110
same with me. Its worth more to me than the £££ its worth, i'll probably keep mine until the day a lorry has to come and collect it and take it to car heaven.
 
I'd like to go the other way. I've been considering a well sorted track Clio as a second car. Although it would have to be a proper setup car, not just a shed on faceland coilovers.
 
I dunno Roy, I kinda like what Kev has done with his cheaper than a bag of chips ph1. Total cost is under £1500 for a dedicated track car, nay bad imo.
 

Tunst

ClioSport Club Member
  Focus ST225, Focus E
I'd like to go the other way. I've been considering a well sorted track Clio as a second car. Although it would have to be a proper setup car, not just a shed on faceland coilovers.

Not like the RS on track?
 
Not like the RS on track?

Nah. It was fantastic on track, but too expensive to maintain as a regular track car. Tyres cost a fortune, and the consumables for my brakes are expensive. Not to mention it uses fuel at a laughable rate on track. 7.5mpg around The Rock last November. Plus white paint takes a battering on track with all the flying rubber and marbles hitting the bonnet etc. I'll still use it on track from time to time, but a dedicated Clio with cheap consumable costs would be an ideal track shed :)
 

ForceIndia

ClioSport Club Member
  Gentlemans spec 200
A cheap 172, kw v1's, whiteline arb. Sort the pads/discs and you're ready to go.
 

ForceIndia

ClioSport Club Member
  Gentlemans spec 200
Although if ultimate pace isn't your aim, but ultimate smiles are, a 306 rallye would be more fun.
 
I dunno Roy, I kinda like what Kev has done with his cheaper than a bag of chips ph1. Total cost is under £1500 for a dedicated track car, nay bad imo.

Yeah fair enough. I'm just saying it would have to be an actual track car. A car that has been setup and used on track by someone who knows what they're doing (not suggesting I do BTW). Not a car that's just been slammed on faceless coilovers so it 'looks decked y0).
 
Good call on the 306! I sold one last year. Only an xSi 8v, but it would have been a great basis for a track chariot. The basic chassis was brilliant! Bodywork was spot-on too :(
 

ForceIndia

ClioSport Club Member
  Gentlemans spec 200
Still miss my rallye, and my ph1 172. Both awesome for different reasons. The 172 was superb, set up by guesswork and trial/error, and I just chanced on an awesome setup.
 
  197 FF Glacier White
Quite possibly :eek:

I love the fact that most of the people in this thread are the 'grumpy old men' of the forum.

Raise your hand if you're nearly 30 ...

Or 40 in Daniel's case

I AM 40, and I'm saying nothing!

Oh Ok! I have the same problem with my step lad, learning to drive, his dads bought him a 1.1 Saxo, now all he wants to do is modify it. I try to drive it home to him that he will be paying 3 times what the cars worth just to insure it for the first few years etc etc etc and not to waste money on the old s**tter, better to save for a better car for later OR better still, go out and enjoy himself on the town, take a few holidays with his mates etc. Waste of time opening my my mouth really, I know nothing! I try and support in so much as I'm willing to help him maintain his car, that way he'll save money and learn about the mechanical side of things, I've done pretty much every job on a car in my time so nothing is too much so long as it doesn't involve expensive special tooling, but he wants me to teach him how to wire up 'Subs' and 'Neons'!

However, some of the fault lies with me I suppose, I'm a petrol head on 50 plus cars since turning 18. Some of them have been naff, some have been dream cars, others have been dailys. All of them have cost me money or time one way or the other! They've all been maintained by me to the highest degree, now he can see me buying in small 'improvements' to prepare my Cup for a life of occasional commutes and track days, I'm justifying his train of thought somewhat!

One thing is for sure, any money you spend modifying a car might as well be shredded and burnt, it is lost. I do smile when I see lads modifying 1.2 Clios etc though, I bet their parents have given up on the preaching too!

Grump over! I'm off to 'adjust' my ECU.

G
 
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I'm 51 must be the oldest on this or any forum, but always been a petrol head/ motorsport fan, I always say advise once and then let them learn by their own mistakes,I don't work on the car any more except the small jobs, oil change keep it clean, I use it for what it was intended for, bean there done that, can't be bothered with lying on the floor working under the car and pulling engines out etc let others do it know, stated by gez 172 thats the way you should do it.

Regards Russ......



THIS makes sense.
 
  Westy. MX5
I'm 51 must be the oldest on this or any forum, but always been a petrol head/ motorsport fan, I always say advise once and then let them learn by their own mistakes,I don't work on the car any more except the small jobs, oil change keep it clean, I use it for what it was intended for, bean there done that, can't be bothered with lying on the floor working under the car and pulling engines out etc let others do it know, stated by gez 172 thats the way you should do it.

Regards Russ......

Sorry, you are not the eldest on this forum, I'm 59 and there is at least one other gentleman of 63+ with a RS Clio. Like you I am a petrolhead (and dieselhead ;))
I do do most of the maintainance on the cars but not making a a Horlicks of it on silly mods, have other things to spend money on like holidays and trackdays.
Once the pension starts in a year I'll be looking out for another track car, and Ariel Atom is on my wish list.
 

ado

ClioSport Club Member
  기아 &#4
I made the mistake on building a race car from scracth instead of buying a podium car which would have cost less. However I did it for the experience so I know to let someone else do it next time. I wouldn't go through the headache of sourcing parts, transport and storage etc.

When I sold it I didn't really lose much from what I spent on building it, £500 at max. Lesson from my experience? Race cars don't depreciate as bad as a track car.
 
  HyperAlloy Combat Chassis
I've had my 182 since new, 5 1/2 years now. Apart from an aftermarket exhaust that was purchased due to the original one rotting, it's pretty well standard. I've spent my money on trackdays, and more importantly tuition at trackdays. It's hilarious going past an M3 in your budget family french hatchback, all made possible because some people will spend £30,000 on a car and not £30 on a driving lesson. Yes, I've probably spent thousands on trackdays and lessons, but it's a lifetime investment and it's made me much faster than the same money on mods.
 
  Alpine GTA Turbo+182
Sorry, you are not the eldest on this forum, I'm 59 and there is at least one other gentleman of 63+ with a RS Clio. Like you I am a petrolhead (and dieselhead ;))
I do do most of the maintainance on the cars but not making a a Horlicks of it on silly mods, have other things to spend money on like holidays and trackdays.
Once the pension starts in a year I'll be looking out for another track car, and Ariel Atom is on my wish list.

You don't know how glad I am to read that! I am 57 and enjoy my newly aquired 182. I always say if you want to go faster, get some race instruction. Cheaper than mods to the car and worth at least another 50bhp!
Ben Collins got the 182 around the TG track in about 1:33 new and stock! What's not to like?

We all go throught the pointless mods stage of our lives. Then, hopefully, experience tells us what to do and what to leave alone. My Ford F350 pickup. Stock 7.3 t/diesel is 240bhp/350 llbs torque. Now chipped with different injectors and exhaust 425bhp/800lbs torque - fun! My Lotus Europa TC, engine dropped a valve. Sold the old engine fitted a Zetec engine with TB's etc for less than the price of a rebuild of the old engine and gained 80bhp and reliability! So some mods are ok.

Unlike us ,ahem, older ones, most of the Clio owners are very young and want to follow the crowd and have bragging rights when it comes to automotive willy waving at the pub ( if they are old enough) or on here. I reckon most of these mods like coilovers, carbon this and that are a waste of time as Renault got it so right in the first place. Funny how many wheel sets are for sale with cheapo sh*t tyres on!!!
 
  Listerine & Poledo
@Bassplayer

Original Europa!?!!!

You are a hero, no mistaking it. It's on my list of classics I must have.

Along with a Elan Sprint
 
  Westy. MX5
Bassplayer , perhaps Cliosport should have a Forum for 50 plusers where we can discuss sensible mods, and maybe warm beer, what the grandchildren are doing etc. ;)
 
  Alpine GTA Turbo+182
Bassplayer , perhaps Cliosport should have a Forum for 50 plusers where we can discuss sensible mods, and maybe warm beer, what the grandchildren are doing etc. ;)

OOh sounds good. Oh yes, brands of slippers, latest shades of beige cardigans in BHS, a poll Horlicks v Drinking chocolate, Viagra v cup of tea......;);)

Funny thing is though, as the Rock and Roll generation we still are about 25 in our minds for a lot of things.

Yup, let's have that "Senior Forum" !!
 
  Westy. MX5
Yes Russ, You have a lot to learn yet at your tender age. Better start doing Track Days with all that disposable income you should have. i start my my company pension next March and already contemplating a new track car. Zoom Zoom for now.
 
  Mazda 3 MPS Mk1
Just read the whle thread, and am feeling like im one of the "idiots" as im just spunking up a load of dosh for the TDF ITB Kit.

My car has a rerally nice interior, has a 197 wheel, recaros etc etc and is already fitted with cams etc.

I can see why people get rid, if i was to strip the car and fit a set of buckets, i think i would get so fed up. As the car is its perfect, with the bodies it can only get better. My car is personal to me, and i cant see how people can spend all this time and effort on a car that they must have cared about and then just forget about it all and sell it. My guess the majority on here have used loans and CC, realsied there up s**t creak and have to sell to clear debt. Mines been cash throughout, and only ever disposable income that i would have spent on the piss anyway!

After the ITB's i regard my car as finished, and i will then be at as many trackdays as i can for the next few years.

If i do anything, it will be buy a s**t diesel to use for carrying stuff for decorating my house! Cars not for sale :D
 
  Evo 5 RS
I put mine up for awhile, but was due to having to free up some cash, couldn't bring myself to do it. Won't ever be up for sale again!
 
  Evo 5 RS
lmfao...silence! Nah I had a buyer actually! if you could call it that. Was trying to sell his motor first.. I never got back to him.

I couldn't bring myself to do it, it was a half arsed ad etc. It'll be with me for a long while yet
 


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