Phase 1 vs Phase 2 172 - Which Do You Prefer?

[hagglelad]

Apologies if this isn't the best place to ask questions on the 172, please can someone direct me to the best place if so (there doesn't seem to be a dedicated 172 forum which surprises me) - thanks.

I'm looking to replace my '96 Alfa 145 Cloverleaf and I've had a look at a few early 172 Clio's. My budget at present will allow me to get a phase 1 or a phase 2 at a stretch however I personally think I actually prefer the phase 1 since it doesn't look as bulbus and I think it has better alloys. I am still investigating the differences and history of the car but am wondering which do you prefer?

Also the phase 1 seems to have the dark blue leather interior which I'm not that keen on (its the colour I don't like). From what I can tell in some photos on ebay/autotrader it looks like the Phase 2 172's have a black leather interior, is this the case or my eyes playing tricks?

Thanks, hopefully this forum will be a usefull resource in future.

 

[Clio_Craig]

phase 2 for me, looks alot more modern and new

 

[nathanH]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=151763&highlight=ph1+vs+ph2

 

[Lagerlout]

There isn't a 172 forum, but there is a search button.

 

[Russ_16v]

Apologies if this isn't the best place to ask questions on the 172, please can someone direct me to the best place if so (there doesn't seem to be a dedicated 172 forum which surprises me) - thanks.

I'm looking to replace my '96 Alfa 145 Cloverleaf and I've had a look at a few early 172 Clio's. My budget at present will allow me to get a phase 1 or a phase 2 at a stretch however I personally think I actually prefer the phase 1 since it doesn't look as bulbus and I think it has better alloys. I am still investigating the differences and history of the car but am wondering which do you prefer?

Also the phase 1 seems to have the dark blue leather interior which I'm not that keen on (its the colour I don't like). From what I can tell in some photos on ebay/autotrader it looks like the Phase 2 172's have a black leather interior, is this the case or my eyes playing tricks?

Thanks, hopefully this forum will be a usefull resource in future.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=151763&highlight=ph1+vs+ph2

have a look in the above thread matey,most stuff is covered


oh and welcome to you too

 

[hagglelad]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=151763&highlight=ph1+vs+ph2

Thanks but this doesn't answer my question about the leather!

There isn't a 172 forum, but there is a search button.

Didn't realise there is an opinion search button, where can I find it? Thanks for the warm welcome.

 

[Lagerlout]

Right next to the sarcasm button. It seems you found that on your own

There are more opinions already expressed on this subject than you can shake a stick at. Use the search.

Oh and welcome to the forum

 

[TheJesus]

difference is that the Ph2 has black half leather and the Ph1 does indeed have the crappy dark blue half leather and worse looking dash... although externally they look a lot more agressive and not like a 1.2 which is good.

Ph1 is lighter and also runs a cable throttle, not the fly by wire too. Other than that I cant think of any other real differences. It's down to what is easier to live with looks wise, I've never liked the Ph2 due to the wheels and front end

 

[Neil G]

As above...personal preference really, probably b**ger all in it performance wise.

I do prefer the MK2 myself hence why I brought one and not the Mk1

 

[nathanH]

Hi, welcome to the club, sorry about my first abrupt post. ph1 FTW BTW

 

[DebV6]

Ph 2 for me

 

[Day]

Ph1.5 is best

 

[edde]

I'm looking to replace my '96 Alfa 145 Cloverleaf and I've had a look at a few early 172 Clio's. My budget at present will allow me to get a phase 1 or a phase 2 at a stretch however I personally think I actually prefer the phase 1 since it doesn't look as bulbus and I think it has better alloys. I am still investigating the differences and history of the car but am wondering which do you prefer?

Personaly get a phase 1

Servicing rules/time/whats done etc (172/182)
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=107873

Clio 172/182 differences/changes/facts on changes in production
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=162405

 

[hagglelad]

Thank for all your replies, you've been most helpfull.
Wish I could hand pick parts of the ph1 and ph2 and make my ideal car:
- Ph1 front end.
- Ph2 black leather seats.
- Cup alloys.
Has anyone got a photo (or link) of a ph1 with turini alloys?
IGNORE THAT JUST FOUND ONE: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=259050&highlight=ph1+ph2

Servicing rules/time/whats done etc (172/182)
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=107873

Clio 172/182 differences/changes/facts on changes in production
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=162405

PS: I can't see these links - guess its coz I'm not a full paid up member yet?

 

[Christophe]

phase 2 all the way for me. I find phase one looks dated and a bit more tinny. just my opinion though

 

[fuel_slut]

Ph1 is lighter and also runs a cable throttle, not the fly by wire too.

You mean drive by wire?? its not a plane is it lol..

Go for a nice 172 Ph2. Or a Ph1 if you wanna save cash.

 

[Se7en172]

Ph1 is lighter and also runs a cable throttle, not the fly by wire too.

You mean drive by wire?? its not a plane is it lol..

Go for a nice 172 Ph2. Or a Ph1 if you wanna save cash.

Drive-by wire? does this come with an Uzi?

 

[Rob Clark]

i think the full definiton is fly by wire actually
not for the purists but you wont get traction control without it !
Never liked the ph1's tbh but i would say that being a ph2 owner, depends if you want a bit more of a go kart or a few more toys tbh - each has their own merits.

 

[edde]

Phase 2 looks and body sheel

Phase 1 for everything esle.

O bar the toys the 2 has but they can be a more trouble than there worth.

 

[Wizbit]

If you don't like the colour of the seats in the Ph1 172, then maybe you should hunt out a 172 Exclusive.

 

[TheJesus]

Ph1 is lighter and also runs a cable throttle, not the fly by wire too.

You mean drive by wire?? its not a plane is it lol..

Go for a nice 172 Ph2. Or a Ph1 if you wanna save cash.

erm, it's actually called fly by wire according to Renault... the fact it says 'fly' is not a reference to the Clio being based on a Harrier Jump Jet oddly enough