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Phase 2 172 Iceburg Silver



  Iceberg 172
Today i slapped a deposit down on a 172. Now i've been creeping on here for a while and the Type R forum too but i finally decided to dabble in a Clio for a few reasons:

Insurance cheaper, better MPG, Cruise Control, the seats are more comfy and the corning is just as fun.

A bit about the car:

£2400
2003 53 plate so has all the little gadgets minus sat nav.
37000 miles
FSH With belts done at 25k

Went through it thoroughly, i was there almost 3 hours going over stuff. No issues with the clutch, lights, sensors, engine mounts and the washers worked but it was more like a drizzle so thats something to look at.

But the two main things the car needs: A front tyre, any suggestions for a decent tyre for a good price?

And there is a scuff along the arch and this should be getting sorted at some point next weekend.

Pretty damn excited to have something different after 3 years of Saxo VTR. Noticed a few interior plastics fitted together oddly or seemed loose, so i'll probably be bugging you guys once i get the time to give it a serious once over and get picky with it all. But for the price i couldn't really complain about these minor gripes. Looking forward to the drive home tomorrow and a good clean assuming it doesn't rain. I'll try and drop y'all some photos.
 
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Adamm.

ClioSport Club Member
Welcome mate, looks like you got a good little bargain there.

I also came from a saxo vtr and I can guarantee you will love the 172.
 
  Iceberg 172
Here is said scuff and tyre:

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I've been told it would be about 100 quid by a sprayer i know. So thats not too bad. Hopefully it will come out ok!
 
  Iceberg 172
Dunno just yet there are a few little niggles and rattles where the chap who the garage bought it off had a amp in there. But I've sorted two of those out already just pannels and carpet loose. Got fresh p zeros for the front today to carry on the spending habbit! Going to get the arch sorted next weekend and then looking into some genuine cup turninis so I have a set for summer. Really don't want to touch the exterior to be honest I like it OEM.

So happy with it though the drive back was 3 hours even though it could have been 45 minutes :) took it through cheddar gorge for a bit of fun. Put it this way the break dust isnt anywhere to be seen anymore. Noticed that the petrol chap recommends 98 Ron, is it the general consensus that this is the only juice the Clio should be drinking?
 
  Iceberg 172
It's been bugging me that the ashtray is loose. I know this is suppose to come out but is there anyway to get this fastened in tight and fitted? Also the whole unit which surrounds the gear stick and holds the ashtray etc seems loose and is easily pulled away. Is this normal?
 
  Iceberg 172
Bit of a big update,

Right so first things first i spent the first month or so just enjoying the car and getting to know the ins and outs of it. Really enjoy the way it feels, it can be a real die hard drivers car when it wants to be and then a comfy cruiser when you want to just toddle about. I've been get about 40 mpg every tank which i'm pretty happy about. Honestly, most of those have been V Power because i feel the engine is smoother and the throttle is sharper. I'm not going to make claims that it makes the car faster than a S2000 just by changing the fuel.

So the first bit of sadness came in the form of heavy rain. In June there was some terribad down pours in Somerset. Low and behold i couldn't walk to the gym one day, so popped my bag in the passenger footwell and off i went. On arrival i realised that the bottom of my bag was damp, cue the horror. The passenger footwell was absolutely drenched, at this point my heart fell out of my ass and i wished i listened to everyone who told me to avoid all 172/182s like the plague.

Straight to the forum i went and found out it could be as simple as something as a blocked drainage hole rather than every sill and bit of rubber failing. Off to investigate: All credit goes to my old man, We had to take the whole wiper unit, windscreen water and plastics off to get to a bit of plastic probably less than 2 inches in diameter. It was absolutely clogged with crap and needed to be cleaned. Ever since doing this the footwell has been stone dry.

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http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j437/Leonzee/168838_10151022894372790_405794782_n.jpg This was the little bugger causing all the problems.



A few days after this the rear wiper stopped working, the water pump works but the wiper doesn’t. I haven’t got around to testing if there is power going to it and it’s a dead unit or it’s the UCH. Just a pity really because it’s could work out expensive for something that’s not really essential, but none the less a niggle.

Next thing you know it was my birthday, absolutely spoilt by my misses and family I got a registration and over £100 of detailing products. Over the moon, I went about giving it the best clean I had so far. In all I was out there about 7 hours. The pictures don’t do it justice but the only thing i had was my HTC, not some fancy Nikon. On inspection there were only 1 or 2 spots that i noticed once i got it down bare, really happy with the lack of swirls. Collinite wax is epic, no two ways about it. I applied two very thin coats to it at the end of the long list of applied products and it’s still beading water in uniform on 95% of the car over a month on. I have no doubt it will last the winter.

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So now i had done a thorough once over on it i could see that the scuff wasn’t going to budge, so i used some money i had from my birthday to get the arch sorted. Cost £100 and its actually a damn good job. However, the pleasant lack of stone chips to the front of my car makes me believe the front has been blown over before... Still a happy chappy though.

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Cue more spending. So my service interval comes up, due to get the Aux belt changed. The dephaser seemed a little clunky to me, so i asked them to have a listen. Immediately, the guy tells me that it’s definitely fucked and needs replacing. At this point i feel like i’ve gone down with an open cheque book and he has filled in his weeks wages. The service was brilliant, I spent the day in Southampton while the work was being done, blipping about in there banger 1.2. The joys, on returning they had checked the whole car over, changed all the belts pulleys and dephaser etc. The three things that came up were gearbox dogbone mount, engine top mount and the inner o/s gator on the drive shaft. The latter being urgent, the rest being something to do within next year to avoid any banging.

Ktec tell me none of this is a MOT failure. A week later I book it in for an MOT and low and behold the only thing that comes up is the split gaitor. What a pain, get on the phone to Renparts they tell me that they will guarantee it delivered to me within 5 days. I check up on the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] and 5[SUP]th[/SUP] day to be told its posted and should be with me. Come Monday it turns out its not even in the regional distribution centre if it gets to me the next day i’ll have a single day to get the shaft fitted and the MOT retest done.

So i ring up asking for the £10 postage to be refunded, still to this day i haven’t had that £10 back. Pretty poor service for such a big trader on the forum. Inbetween all of this which was around 1 week I changed the oil and the filter as is advised with the big service.

Happy as Larry with the car, engine definitely feels better after the service. Then out of nowhere the ESP light and SERV light pops on one day. Have no idea what it was about but haven’t seen it since. So it’s a bit of a weird matter. I’ll get it on a CLIP if someone can advise me somewhere cheap and local?

So next on my to do list are:
All three mounts, which should set me back around £100 for all the rubber etc, advise for the best place to get the various parts will be much appreciated.
Then i’ve got the right ELF gearbox oil i just need to get around to changing it, probably do it next Monday.
Still on the prowl for Speedline Turinis.
 

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  Iceberg 172
Yessir! Pretty crazy place, weirdest range of cars. Just replaced 3 of the mounts. Engine top mount, upper gearbox mount and the dog bone with powerflex. Wow what a difference, the only one that was really deminished was the top mount, which the bottom of it was litterally hanging out. The other two were pretty mushy, so on their way out.

So I'm very happy, while the air box was out I replaced the air filter with a ktec one, feels a bit more responsive low down, wouldn't say there is a real bhp boost. Best description is similar to vpower, obviously their is more of an intake noise but that wasn't the appeal. Meanwhile I had a woman reverse into the front of it at work doing paint damage ... Great! I'll upload some pictures but she's paid me enough cash to get the work done. While this is done I'm going to get the wing mirrors done too.

Next up I've got the fabia splitter at home to fit. And I'm probably get some cooksport springs fitted with a good old wheel allignment to get the car set up nicely. Then maybe squeeze in a final winter detail! Hopefully ill be happy then.
 
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Went and got the Cooksport springs fitted today. Absolutely great feel, not harsh at all. Intact they feel like the oem springs. There isn't any vagueness about them, not bouncing or any of the other negatives. They are low but that helps improve the feel of the car!
 
  Iceberg 172
So I’ve been casually ticking over this winter bar a few decent drives. This was made easy by all the work carried out as explained in previous posts. The springs have settled in well now and have a really decent ride height with enough clearance for practical every day use. The only thing that has cropped up is a slight knocking going over pitches and troffs in the road, took it to a garage today and it was found to be the steering rod end. That's going to set me back ££ to fix but should have the car handling perfect.

The other thing that came up was the budget tyre is now worn on the inner side and will probably need replacing before the year is out. So I’ll probably invest in a pair of Rainsports and keep the Hankooks on the back. Has anyone had any bad experiences with these? My sister has them on my old Saxo and they've seemed pretty good over the snow period.

The other thing that’s starting to bug me is the rear wiper. It's KO'd and I’m going to take a proper look at it tomorrow. If you have a look at the pictures you can see it's stuck in that position. Think I might just dewiper it as I wash the car once a week so the back window never gets dire. While I’m at it I’ll probably attempt to remove the RS badges. Any tips for these?

So more on my pathetic attempts at detailing the exterior. My first attempt was towards the end of July/August. The difference in the depth of colour and overall quality of look was amazing to me then. However, as we all know with detailing it gets better with time. There were a few more additions to the party of products this time.

1. So to start I rinsed with a hose to get any bulky debris off. Then i moved onto the Nilfisk to get any more stubborn bits shifted.

2. Once I did this I got out the Citrus Power and started to apply to the areas that needed more attention. Particularly the side trims, badges, handles and locks etc. Then after I let this work for about 15 minutes with the assistance of a bit of movement you could see these areas really being lifted of dirt.

3. Rinse again.

4. On close inspection the tar deposits on the paint weren't major and any real problem areas were attacked with Megs paint cleaner, which were literally a few spots. Then the whole car was Iron X'd for the first time. Needless to say there was purple everywhere!!

5. Rinse again.

6. Starting with the wheels I broke out the Megs Hot Rims and allowed it to work away. Rinsed them down and proceeded to wash the whole car with Megs Gold Class (now have Wolf Chems White Satin) and the lamb’s wool mitt.

7. Rinse again and repeat 2 additional times.

8. Now I moved onto the clay (Megs clay kit, but bought Bilt for next time XD), the paint was already feeling pretty smooth but there were some areas that needed to be brought up to the standard of rest of the paint, these were the flatter areas of the car. Nonetheless, the whole car was done in the same manner. I done this with a single bar broke into segments.

9. Rinsed again to get off those white trails from the claying process and dried ready for the various stages of polish and protection.

Before I layered up the new protection I had to address the waxing errors from myself and the previous owner. The best way to do this is FAIRY WASHING UP Liquid. Yeah I said it. Now I’m talking the smallest dab ever on a microfiber and this stuff will literally eat the wax off the plastics.

Now this is the stage that I thought improved the most. It wasn't the products that changed quality, it was the way I applied them. The first time I did this I felt like I rushed it, I used old applicator pads that were misshaped and past it and my prep wasn't as thorough. This time, I had a whole set of applicator pads brand new and a lot of time with no distractions.

1. Polishing: AG Super Resin, I think next time I’ll get something like SSR unless you guys know of a better polish for the 'Berg? But it definitely does a respectable job at removing minor swirls and marring which all this paint needed bar one area on the roof. However, I feel like the depth of colour could be a little better for sure if it was slightly more abrasive to remove those more oxidised flat looking areas.

2. Glaze: PB White Diamond, now this stuff is beast, literally after just these two stages you could leave it. It really brings the paint to an even finish, with a wet look, while bringing out the blue flake in the 'Berg paint. A must for this colour.

3. Sealant: PB EX-P, a really decent product at getting the shine of the paint and reflection to a decent level. Maintains the groundwork of the other two products too while giving an initial layer of protection.

4. Wax: Collinite 476 Super, anyone with a light coloured car knows this stuff is like putting a top coat on your car. Nothing degrades it for months on end. Really finishes the shine to a great level and the beading as you can see is next level.


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On the tyres and trim I used CG New Look and this was great on the trim. Only lasted two weeks on the tyres but looked great the whole time. As you can see I went right up to the wire with light and if it was better lit the camera phone would have done it even more justice. But you can see almost how good it looks and how reflective you can really get silvers with patience.

Also got some silver visions and LED side lights, somehow managed to knock the xenon out in the process so it's aimed a bit low at the moment but nothing drastic. And the LED side lights are dead ... felt like a waste of time really. So yeah, now I just give the Clio a mop over once a week and most people that have seen this car will vouch for how great the paint looks all the time. Worth the work if you have the time to do it!
 
  Iceberg 172
So bit of a big big update. So far I've have the track rod and steering rack end changed. This didn't cure the knocking that I was hearing. Onto the next thing I put the ARB bushes on in the hope that any potential flex in this would be eliminated and also tried the top mount washer fix. However, this temporarily fixed it. It came back after a week or so and it was a pain in the ass to do!

So by this point I was frustrated by it all and took it to Dan one of the specialists based in Street on here. Absolutely cracking services, straight away noticed the front shocks were leaking. This was straight away suspect, so we went on and replaced these with some new updated top mounts (about time Renault!) However, once again this wasn't it! Grrr, although the shocks had it so it was worth upgrading to the cup ones ;) and the service was great at Dans place, plus I got to pick his brains!

This leaves it to pretty much one thing, the ball joints. So I'm just waiting on my front camber bolts to come and ill get these fitted and a full laser alignment for fast road set up. This should tighten up everything as its essentially a whole front end rebuild when you factor in all the top mounts too. On the plus side I now know i have the late/cup wishbones :)

In the meantime I got a little fed up with the OEM wheels. So I decided to go for some lighter wheels in the form of some 15" speedlines.
 
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So this is how its sitting at the moment. Really quite happy with it. The body work is in better condition than when I bought it too. I think on my next detail with some new techniques I've picked up and the swirls on the bonnet will be cured :) plan on keeping it for quite some time once I've set it up!

Next things to do are a big service with plugs etc and the rear pads need doing too. Then ill be happy.
 
  Iceberg 172
Both a sad and happy day today. After 2+ years of good service I can honestly say this car has been a pleasure to own. It's never let me down, even with the cars reputation. I didn't even need to advertise it and it's sold onto someone that I hope enjoys it as much as me. It hasn't even reached 50k yet, so still has plenty more smiles left.

The silver lining is that I've bought something with a little more poke and luxury. A 130i with only 37k on the clock. I made another car thread but after driving a whole host of things the 130i just seemed to fit what I needed. I'm sure I'll be lurking about here no doubt as it's a good forum and I'll no doubt own another Clio at some point!
 
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Here is a picture, spent over 200 miles in it today and it's been over 500+ miles to view and collect. Another member turned up to view as I was placing the deposit down. And another random as I was leaving. It was on sale a day and is absolutely spotless in condition.
 


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