To you perhaps. To me, it does what I need it to do with no issues at all. Sorted. No need for me to look for something better. Leaves me more wanking time :approve:
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To you perhaps. To me, it does what I need it to do with no issues at all. Sorted. No need for me to look for something better. Leaves me more wanking time :approve:
Not a Clio
I don't understand these threads where people **** off something, call the company shite etc. I don't remember the government ever passing an act that states you HAVE to run a particular operating system. Each variant have its own positives and negatives. The guys that wrote the article is entitled to his opinion, but end of the day I don't understand why hes getting so emotional about it. Maybe MS sacked him or something.
Everyone lays into Windows quoting stability, the vast majority of Windows crashes are due to 3rd party driver code. The Mac doesn't suffer this problem because its pretty much an out-of-the-box product will very little to no way of extending its hardware base. My PC at home is nearly 5 years old, it hasn't suffered one crash yet but is coming to the end of its lift span as it can't meet the needs of todays software. You'll also find most companies running Windows Server with strict change control will tell you they've had very few issues apart from the pain in the arse security patching.
I think the fact Linux is there in the market is a good thing, it increases the need for innovation. Those of you that have stated Microsoft haven't provided any innovation either don't work in IT or are just being ignorant to the fact because its Microsoft. Regarding the Windows interface its pretty much the standard thats here to stay, most Linux flavors I've seen use the 'Windows' type shell and we know 100% they didn't invent it.
Everyone lays into Windows quoting stability, the vast majority of Windows crashes are due to 3rd party driver code. The Mac doesn't suffer this problem because its pretty much an out-of-the-box product will very little to no way of extending its hardware base. My PC at home is nearly 5 years old, it hasn't suffered one crash yet but is coming to the end of its lift span as it can't meet the needs of todays software. You'll also find most companies running Windows Server with strict change control will tell you they've had very few issues apart from the pain in the arse security patching.
I think the fact Linux is there in the market is a good thing, it increases the need for innovation. Those of you that have stated Microsoft haven't provided any innovation either don't work in IT or are just being ignorant to the fact because its Microsoft. Regarding the Windows interface its pretty much the standard thats here to stay, most Linux flavors I've seen use the 'Windows' type shell and we know 100% they didn't invent it.
not really, a pc has been synonymous with the IBM compatible personal computer invented by IBM, its competitor has been the Apple Mac, when people say PC they mean a Windows/Linux based computer with Intel/AMD architecture, people say do you have a pc or a mac, whether its technically right or not is neither here nor there, lets not pick.
The Core 2 Duo is a great product, dual core, powerful, and low wattage, they didn't go with it because it was sh1t dear boy!
MAC's have taken the best the PC has to offer and the only thing the MAC had was a different operating system that some people like so MS have mixed the best of both worlds there too, look and design of Mac OS and the compatibilty of Windows.
I know you will come back with some c0cky comment but you always will as you worship the non-windows gods, you are a minority and great for you, but I for one have never been able to bring myself to not go with windows when it works perfectly for me and brings me no compatibilty issues like comes with any other operating systems.
I couldn't care less where MS get their ideas either, as long as they bring it to market and make it available to the masses, whos to complain?
indeed they were, but there must be a good reason why they have started to offer Core Duo, its what the people want as they want the abilities of the latest pc processors with the look and uniqueness of a MAC, its like being in a special club, what with PC's having vista now though, there is little difference between the two, especially with MAC's now being able to run windows, its all about the design of the products these days and marketing.
i've never paid for windows, it always comes installed on my laptops so why look for a free alternative when i already have the product?
but if you buy a laptop it will come with it on so how can not using it save you money?
I always buy sony laptops and you can't buy one without windows installed.
oh and the reason there are so many security flaws found in windows is because its the most popular operating system so people are trying to bring it down and as so many people are using it they can attack so many more people, why would anyone want to find a security flaw in linux, if they implemented an attack they wouldn't get as mnay hits as compared to windows very few people are using it.
The biggest player will always get hit the most.
The biggest player will always get hit the most.
This threads got quite good since I popped out to the shops.
true, but if you read up on the architecture of a linux based system you'll see it is technically harder to damage a linux box.
lol, I've used it for a fair few years, it's just recently I've made a full switch.
I hardly think highlighting an alternative is spouting rubbish. I think being so narrow minded people cant appreciate an alternative is rubbish.
Not a Clio
Macester - MS is rubbish and you're lying if you say that your windows experience is a dream. This isn't my first time with Linux either, as my sole OS I've been using it 14 months and dabbled with it for about 6 months before that.
Spoonie - I think most Linux users have a copy of Windows in their cupboard somewhere, if we wanted to use it we would. I don't know where you get jealousy from... why would we ditch Windows if we secretly want it?
Not even sure how this got onto Linux, the original post was outlining how shite Vista is, it's not saying move to Linux.
Spoonie - I think most Linux users have a copy of Windows in their cupboard somewhere, if we wanted to use it we would. I don't know where you get jealousy from... why would we ditch Windows if we secretly want it?
Not even sure how this got onto Linux, the original post was outlining how shite Vista is, it's not saying move to Linux.
185lb/ft dCi
Fair play to you. I am not narrow minded like that.
@Violent, stop with this MS is rubbish, because purely and simply it isn't. If it wasn't for them, you probably wouldn't know how to use a computer. If for the first time you used a computer, you used linux, you would be like "ehh whats this crap?!?!".
Anyway I know whats good and whats bad, I'm no novice with these things, I regularly use auditor and backtrack to test systems security and to backup files easier. I agree that linux is good, yes it gets down to business and it does what you want it to do and doesnt have any of these little extra's that hurt your cpu. But then again I don't go round hating microsoft for making a supposedly bad operating system?(not pointed at mells)
I think you should maybe reread my responses, I haven't told anyone to move to Windows. I've given my reasons for not using Linux and I feel they are valid.
I far from hate MS. I have used it for years. I grew up with it and have every copy of windows back to Windows 3.0 in my draw (I'm quite proud of that!!), bar Windows 2000 Server edition. I have random versions of NT ffs.
I've just become more hypercritical in my old age. Put it this way. I used to use windows at home and I am forced to use it at work. Now, I am just forced to use it at work.
This is a massive debate. I'm not anti Microsoft, I've just made an educated decision to stop using it at home. I think MS do allot of good in the world i.e the Gates foundation, but also do allot of bad i.e. some of their business practices e.g. Netscape saga etc.
Anyway, thats off topic. I do think that the review in the original thread probably is written by a Mac or Linux fanboy. I'm sure there is top quality parts to Vista - there should be becuase MS spent billions of $ on it.
A random point: It will be interesting in the future with regards to MS as China gets more and more of an economy and technology spreads through the rest of the developing world how MS will fair. It's a well documented issue but China is far from happy with letting MS develop products for China due to the close-source status.
I've just become more hypercritical in my old age. Put it this way. I used to use windows at home and I am forced to use it at work. Now, I am just forced to use it at work.
This is a massive debate. I'm not anti Microsoft, I've just made an educated decision to stop using it at home. I think MS do allot of good in the world i.e the Gates foundation, but also do allot of bad i.e. some of their business practices e.g. Netscape saga etc.
Anyway, thats off topic. I do think that the review in the original thread probably is written by a Mac or Linux fanboy. I'm sure there is top quality parts to Vista - there should be becuase MS spent billions of $ on it.
A random point: It will be interesting in the future with regards to MS as China gets more and more of an economy and technology spreads through the rest of the developing world how MS will fair. It's a well documented issue but China is far from happy with letting MS develop products for China due to the close-source status.
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thecremeegg
Its not a case of "being able to chose" because you cant....install linux and you need a computer degree to use it, plus because work/uni etc will all use office it'll be incompatible and can't play games
I'm not slating microsoft for the sake of it, it just annoys me that with so much money they produce such laclustre software year on year, and then charge you ridiculous money for the privilege. Fair enough if windows was working properly out of teh box, but its not - its full of design flaws and security loopholes, the sort that should be fixed prior to release. If microsoft bothered to code things properly then Vista would be brilliant - as it stands, its not
I'm not slating microsoft for the sake of it, it just annoys me that with so much money they produce such laclustre software year on year, and then charge you ridiculous money for the privilege. Fair enough if windows was working properly out of teh box, but its not - its full of design flaws and security loopholes, the sort that should be fixed prior to release. If microsoft bothered to code things properly then Vista would be brilliant - as it stands, its not
Revels Mum & Sister
LOL I dont think you appreciate the monster task that goes into a perfect OS. In a perfect world then yes it would NEVER need an update or to be fixed.
Same with cars in an ideal world a ferrari would NEVER break down or need improving/changing/fixing. But it does LOL.
Thats life
Plus if your that bothered about it why did you buy a clio
Because it met your needs!Jesus!!!
Calm down ladies!! Its only an operating system (maybe crap but who cares)
If you havent experienced something how can you slate it? Like s**ging a "rather large" lady! I aint done it so dunno if I like it!!
At the end of the day every1 has there way of doing things dont they?! You like blondes or brunettes, Windows/linux, Clio's/saxo's etc!
Personally i dont like windows, it does what what i need it to do, play games internet etc, but not sure about all this linux thing (I dont like change! im local!) and i wouldnt discourage any1 from buying/using it. I would however love Billy boys money for selling a product that every1 hates!! (or so it seems)
I think a "Operating System" celebrity deathmatch is in order here!
Calm down ladies!! Its only an operating system (maybe crap but who cares)
If you havent experienced something how can you slate it? Like s**ging a "rather large" lady! I aint done it so dunno if I like it!!
At the end of the day every1 has there way of doing things dont they?! You like blondes or brunettes, Windows/linux, Clio's/saxo's etc!
Personally i dont like windows, it does what what i need it to do, play games internet etc, but not sure about all this linux thing (I dont like change! im local!) and i wouldnt discourage any1 from buying/using it. I would however love Billy boys money for selling a product that every1 hates!! (or so it seems)
I think a "Operating System" celebrity deathmatch is in order here!
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thecremeegg
I do appreciate the work, but im sorry 5 years and they cant get it near perfect? its a joke. they can hire who they want and yet it still ends up being XP with a few different features!
Anyways
that was a fun argument lol
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rich[182]
lol @ all the anti-MS people arround, who by the way are prob running a PC on XP to post in this very thread, and may even own a 360
www.fickle.com is where its at
www.fickle.com is where its at
Mitsubishi Colt
I reckon Vista would have Linux in the twisties though....
For what it's worth, I'm running Ubuntu on my good lady's laptop, XP Tablet on my Tablet and Vista on the box I'm using now. Each does what we want it to do and suits our needs pretty damn well.
Unbuntu won't stream to my 360 how I'd like, whereas Vista and XP would kill the laptop. I'm happy, hope you're all happy too....
For what it's worth, I'm running Ubuntu on my good lady's laptop, XP Tablet on my Tablet and Vista on the box I'm using now. Each does what we want it to do and suits our needs pretty damn well.
Unbuntu won't stream to my 360 how I'd like, whereas Vista and XP would kill the laptop. I'm happy, hope you're all happy too....
Mitsubishi Colt
alcohol multipost
Have you actually used it? Its not on sale until the end of the month so I doubt you and many of the others on here have. You have no argument.
Audi TT Stronic
Audi TT Stronic
Not true in the slightest.. the entire OS design (based of a 35 year old unix os) is inherintly more secure by design. I wont go into specifics as its a far too boring read but trust me when I say it is !
Also the server market is dominated by linux and unix.. and server systems with static IP's are the ones that get targeted for attack the most.. but its always the windows servers going down quicker than the titanic lol
Audi TT Stronic
Im so proud my young padewan... your training is now complete..
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thecremeegg
Spoonie;2359095l[/quote said:
I've used vista corporate.....
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