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re map on a 172



  172
If you have had a re map done on a 172 from K-Tec Racing (Group N) could you post me some feedback here for me. Thinking of having it done (as well as your other mods to suit the re map) just want the customers review! cheers hope to have some positive comments for me. Alistair
 
  172
Would this be @ any risk to the engine? not heard much about the RS tuner. And do it my self? how would this work. Any one got a review on this RS Tuner?
 
  172
How does it all work? just plug the rs tuner into my car and it updates? can i download my own files to suit what i want? just need some info as i know about 2% about this product!
 
  PH1 172 Sport
Do some searches there are plenty of threads on it. But to summarise.

You put the RStuner prgram on a laptop and connect the Hardware part of your RStuner to your laptop and OBDII port under the ashtray.

You then get the correct map for your car off of the rstuner website and you can upload this to your ecu. Depending what version of the sport you have there is probably a group_n map availible for the ecu.

If you want a custome map to suit what mods you have on the car this is also availible.
 
  172
Just had a look on the RS Tuner web site. Does seem easy enough to install. my only problem i cannot seem to find the right file for my car. maybe i am being thick but i dont want to blow my engine up :clown: i have a clio 172 2004. could any one help me out on this and recommend the right file. cheers
 
  PH1 172 Sport
Download the manual and give it a read. You will need your V/N to see what map is suited to your car.
 
  PH1 172 Sport
Yes that is the correct section for files. What you will have to do is see what version of software your ecu is on 6400 or 7300. You can't do that without the RStuner. Then you will have to use the file designed for 6400 or 7300. Its really not that hard!!!
 
  172
sounds good. i am sure some one can advise me further once i get the RS Tuner. So my next Question is it better (i know its a hell of a lot cheaper) than the K-Tec Group N Re Map?
 
  PH1 172 Sport
Group_N remaps are all very very similar. I dont use the group_N on mine I use the ron98 map which felt better on my car. Remember with RStuner you have the option to go back to the fatory map and also pay for a custom map if you get more mods in the future. Best mod I have done on my car by a long way.
 
  172
that's good to hear. just £130-£140 is a lot for a piece of junk! il give it a go! every one seems to rate it high with other re maps. plus its a lot cheaper! il keep you updated when ive got it installed. cheers lads / girlys
 
  e92 + E46 M3 + Cup
Oredered mine thursday last week, hopefully be here tomorrow :approve: .. still dont know if to go group n or 98ron though.. will the group n be over kill for an itg pannel filter & powerflow exhaust?
 
  172 A Cupwork Orange™
Oredered mine thursday last week, hopefully be here tomorrow :approve: .. still dont know if to go group n or 98ron though.. will the group n be over kill for an itg pannel filter & powerflow exhaust?


Should be ok,

Iv got a custom cat back, Decat + Induction Kit and im runnin the groupe_n tis nice :approve:
 
  172
just got in touch with K-Tec and they think its a bad idea. (Maybe they would as they want a sale) might be worth the extra money from K-Tec for a professional job. + I can tell them my mods there and then without having some bloke making me a custom. For me i think K-Tec would be the one for me. too much of a risk doing it myself and harming my clio. Thanks for all your help.
 
  e92 + E46 M3 + Cup
May go group n then :cool: , is there a guide line for the 98ron & group n for what mods your running? de-cat is on the list of too do's this month, also this 10 journeys to let the ecu learn, will there be no improvement untill say 8-10 th journey?
 
  e92 + E46 M3 + Cup
Thing is though mate for £140 you can also do performance checks on the car, find out whats wrong if some thing doesn't feel right & you'll have £150+left over compared to the k-tec map, but i under stand what you mean, things could go wrong then £300 could seem very cheap compared to a new engine
 

JMR

  RB 182 Cup
Oredered mine thursday last week, hopefully be here tomorrow :approve: .. still dont know if to go group n or 98ron though.. will the group n be over kill for an itg pannel filter & powerflow exhaust?

I have ITG panel and Powerflow cat back!:D

Mines re-mapped by Paul Murray at RS Tuning [Leeds] Don't get confused with the names. RS Tuning is a specialist tuning company and not linked to the RS Tuner product.

My custom map was LOADS better than standard ECU. Much more torque.
 
  e92 + E46 M3 + Cup
So there is room for improvment on my basic mods :D , is the map you hade made based on the group n then mate? may just load that up & see how it runs
 
  PH1 172 Sport
When I emailed fastchip henk said to try both the group_n and the ron98 and see what one you prefere. You can do performance runs with both maps also to see what one is better.

To me spending twice as much money on a group_n remap with a tuning company when you can do it yourself with a group_n map which is probably so similar it would be hard to tell a difference is stupid. I like the idea of being able to diagnose the car myself and also being able to put it back to the stock map when I wish to sell it.

Its really not easy to mess it up providing you double check everything your doing.
 
  e92 + E46 M3 + Cup
Caister, what map do you run & what mod's have you got mate? Also what diffrences did you find between the 98ron & group n?
 

JMR

  RB 182 Cup
So there is room for improvment on my basic mods :D , is the map you hade made based on the group n then mate? may just load that up & see how it runs

Think so, yes. Paul has tweeked files if you have say, Induction kit, inlet work, sportscat/ de-cat etc etc.
 

JMR

  RB 182 Cup
....... also this 10 journeys to let the ecu learn, will there be no improvement untill say 8-10 th journey?

Disconnect the battery for half hour.;)

This resets the ECU for the mapping. Then you dont have to average anything out for such a long time.
 
  BMW M135i
Disconnect the battery for half hour.;)

This resets the ECU for the mapping. Then you dont have to average anything out for such a long time.

Not applicable to modern age ECU's.

+1 the difference was there straight away after remapping mine with my rstuner only drove say 10 miles or so to warm it up first. Also the service Henk gives is A* a lot of companies should take note, emails answered within minutes and always good in depth answers. Can't fault fastchip one little bit :star:.
 

fil_b

ClioSport Club Member
  172 FF and Fabia VRS
i want to get a remap

i have k tec stealth, itg filter and matched manifold

want to remap these but am thinking of a trip to RStuning to see what gets said and get advice
 

fil_b

ClioSport Club Member
  172 FF and Fabia VRS
saving money atm

silverstone this weekend so see how it goes
 
  RB Clio 182
i got a remap from K-tec, probably the best mod you can do to a cliosport. Granted it is a bit expensive from K-tec but you know its in good hands plus my mpg went up after having it done. I would defo advise on a remap
 
  172
its my bday today so ive had £200. just need to find another 80 odd ££ for the Ktec remap! can't wait! il keep you informed! any feeback on a ktec re map would be usful!
 
  Megane 225
its my bday today so ive had £200. just need to find another 80 odd ££ for the Ktec remap! can't wait! il keep you informed! any feeback on a ktec re map would be usful!

Get the fast-chip 1 and u'll have beer tokens left over!!!
 
  RB 182 & Lotus Evora
I dont see the point in going for the ktec one? They are all going to be base maps of sorts anyway. Without YOUR car going to ktec for a live map you will gain no advantage WHATSOEVER with spedning the extra 150 pounds with ktec. You will have a disadvantage though, because you wont have the diagnostics software or performance analyser to see any results and you wont be able to revert back to and fro from map to map.....Bascially your conning yourself. The risk of damaging your car is very minimal as long as u know how to read and ask questions,.
 
  172
I know its a extra £150 for some one else to do it. Yes i know how to read and ask questions but it could so easy go wrong. With K-Tec they know what there doing i don't with this budget RS Tuner. I know it would be good to see the Performance but at the same time both of these kits will give the same? for me i think id rarther leave it for some one else to do it. I don't fee confident enough to attempt this myself. Any ONe want to pop over? lol
 
  Megane 225
There are loads of people on here who have done the Rs-Tuner Map Including myself. It's so simple to use and the support is brilliant. Henk's instruction manual guides you through the whole process and makes it so clear to understand. If you sign up on www.fastchip.nl and go to the downloads section, you can look at the manual for yourself and see how easy it is to do!
 
  Golf GT TDI, IS220d
I know its a extra £150 for some one else to do it. Yes i know how to read and ask questions but it could so easy go wrong. With K-Tec they know what there doing i don't with this budget RS Tuner. I know it would be good to see the Performance but at the same time both of these kits will give the same? for me i think id rarther leave it for some one else to do it. I don't fee confident enough to attempt this myself. Any ONe want to pop over? lol


Im s**t with stuff like that and i managed it. Just read through a fair few times and read all the info on here about it, lots of tips. Plus fastchip customer service is excellent so if your unsure of anythink just drop them an email.
 


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