"remap V's acceleration"

[tomos8304]

ive just booked my car in for a remap in leeds at RS Tuning, i would like too know what sort of 0-60 increase this will give me, i dont really undertand all this bhp, renault claim standard 0-60 is approx 7.1 secs,will the remap make it any quicker?

 

[Beef-Mc]

Think they quote about a 10PS increase so maybe about an extra 5-6BHP and an increase of 30NM in torque.

So yes it will be quicker

 

[24Seven]

what other mods if any have you got at the mo?

 

[bmh.01]

Its more a difference in the way it drives than being noticably quicker, its deffo better at higher speed though.

 

[allyrs]

Its more a difference in the way it drives than being noticably quicker, its deffo better at higher speed though.

how does it change the way it drives?

so is there no difference in 0-60. just a higher top speed?

i was under the impression that it gave more torque lower down in the revs. the bhp is hardly noticable through the rev range? but 0-60 would improve.

 

[GazM]

Less flat spots abit more torque and a few bhp. A higher rev limit is a really good plus imo. Also the idle revs are higher, its far to low standard

 

[tomos8304]

http://www.rstuning.co.uk/rollingroad.php so is this company any good he told me today over the phone that i could expect gains of 15bhp but ive been talking too someone on here who seems too know his onions that this wont be possible, and its not exactly cheap at nearly £400 beer tokens?

 

[MillerLight]

ive read over the years on here that most get 5-7bhp ish. and pay less than that. thats turbo re-map money!

 

[bmh.01]

For the 182 just get an rstuner kit, £140 and the same results plus the flexibility. I'm going to rstuning on saturday and paying 300 notes for a remap but i'm getting +40bhp/+80nm so its a bit more stomachable.

 

[tomos8304]

is it something totally different he's quoting me for i told him it's a standard 182but he defo told me 15bhp increase, dont know what too do now, because ive seen these remap's for a lot less than £400?

 

[MillerLight]

K-tec do maps for about 250 ish in dorset but even driving there is less in petrol than paying £400

 

[GazM]

yeah £400 seems alot for a remap when alot of companys do it for around £300

 

[bmh.01]

is it something totally different he's quoting me for i told him it's a standard 182but he defo told me 15bhp increase, dont know what too do now, because ive seen these remap's for a lot less than £400?

I'll say it now and plenty of people will agree, there is not way in hell you'll get 15bhp. 1-2bhp maybe! 15bhp on a 182 requires cams and more.

 

[lee_cup]

When i had my 182 i got a map from k-tec, i was happy with it, i only got one to compliment my other mods. I just enjoyed the raised rev limit

On a standard car, imo i wouldnt bother if your looking for a huge difference in performance

 

[RSTuning]

I quoted upto 15hp max, this has been seen on several cars but not all, torque is the biggest gain on these. The one we had in today started with a massive 152 lowest! This was due to heat soak in a big way, the carbon fibre engine cover was not helping! upto 70 degrees on the intake and lots of advance pulled from the map.

The final result was 169 i think with an ambient temp of 30 degrees. The most the stock map produced with a good intake temp was 158 so not a bad increase there.

Yes the rs tuner is cheap but nothing can compete with a proper map on the dyno.

 

[RSTuning]

is it something totally different he's quoting me for i told him it's a standard 182but he defo told me 15bhp increase, dont know what too do now, because ive seen these remap's for a lot less than £400?

I'll say it now and plenty of people will agree, there is not way in hell you'll get 15bhp. 1-2bhp maybe! 15bhp on a 182 requires cams and more.

Sorry you are wrong. the smallest gain we have seen on a 182 was 6hp as i remember, even then there was still 12lbs torque.

 

[RSTuning]

yeah £400 seems alot for a remap when alot of companys do it for around £300

Our reflash is £295.

This is a custom setup on the dyno for £395

 

[GazM]

yeah £400 seems alot for a remap when alot of companys do it for around £300

Our reflash is £295.

This is a custom setup on the dyno for £395

Ah ok cheers, do you think its worth a custom setup with no mods though?

 

[RSTuning]

Yes it certainly can be. It will also highlight any issues with the car that need sorting.

Sometimes a base map won't be improved on too much or at all but thats pretty rare really.

 

[Adey.]

you got 169lbft? ive seen fully maped standalone ecud itbd motors not make that torque

 

[RSTuning]

No, 169hp!

 

[Adey.]

ahhh rite, sorry my bad read it wrong lol

 

[RSTuning]

Average mapped torque is 155lbft +-

 

[Fastchip]

Yes the rs tuner is cheap but nothing can compete with a proper map on the dyno.

Except for a RSTuner custom remap.

 

[RSTuning]

Unless you have logs a mile long it's still better on a dyno

 

[tomos8304]

so what actually is the best,rs tuner or RS tuning not taking the price into consideration which gives the best gains??????????????????????

 

[tomos8304]

dont want too cause a arguement just would like too know as ive got too choose one??????

 

[RSTuning]

For proven gains on many many dyno's our remap is hard to top

 

[Adey.]

easy enough to get a dyno to read what you want, ask about read some peoples opinions of what each goes like on the road.

 

[RSTuning]

easy enough to get SOME dyno's to read what you want. I have always backed my gains, if i can't do it then i wont quote it

 

[Adey.]

wasnt i direct dig at you bud, i use alot of different dynos and have been shown what can be done lol, how it drives on the road is more important than the figures, as alot of people just look at the peak values too. at the last rr i overlaid a stock dyno plot and my own, the peak values on ly differd slightly but i had over 20lbft more straight off the line

 

[tomos8304]

easy enough to get a dyno to read what you want, ask about read some peoples opinions of what each goes like on the road.

what would you choose mate?

 

[Adey.]

easy enough to get a dyno to read what you want, ask about read some peoples opinions of what each goes like on the road.

what would you choose mate?

cant comment as i havent tried both really, i can if you pm me tho give u a description of what the setup i have goes like

 

[RSTuning]

wasnt i direct dig at you bud, i use alot of different dynos and have been shown what can be done lol, how it drives on the road is more important than the figures, as alot of people just look at the peak values too. at the last rr i overlaid a stock dyno plot and my own, the peak values on ly differd slightly but i had over 20lbft more straight off the line

Of course yes, the inertia type dyno is so easily cheated, pull the wheel or anything and bang you have more power!

Like you say the road is the test, and yes people are too hung up about the "hp"

I have seen some maps that are only touched to give a little extra power at the top to give the pub figures and nothing in between!

When mapping a car properly each load site is setup to be optimised, thats where the big difference is found.

 

[Adey.]

wasnt i direct dig at you bud, i use alot of different dynos and have been shown what can be done lol, how it drives on the road is more important than the figures, as alot of people just look at the peak values too. at the last rr i overlaid a stock dyno plot and my own, the peak values on ly differd slightly but i had over 20lbft more straight off the line

Of course yes, the inertia type dyno is so easily cheated, pull the wheel or anything and bang you have more power!

Like you say the road is the test, and yes people are too hung up about the "hp"

I have seen some maps that are only touched to give a little extra power at the top to give the pub figures and nothing in between!

When mapping a car properly each load site is setup to be optimised, thats where the big difference is found.

exactly, like ure style

 

[RSTuning]

here's one review of our basic reflash

Pound for pound the best modification you can do in my experience.

Went down to see paul this morning and in 30 mins the new map was on and we were out drivng, didn't get to see much difference around Leeds but the drive home was a different matter.

The car has never been so smooth, power delivery is all over the rev band and the new top limit is the dogs (although the car does start to shake a little nearing the limit).

Foot down in the higher gears was great, even got to cream an old style VR6.

End result in another very satisfied customer.

 

[RSTuning]

and a 172 from a long time ago, used another dyno to map this
http://www.rstuning.co.uk/trax2005/...bum=/Rolling Road Results&image=172 Power.jpg

 

[Jay Payne]

Interesting thread

and a 172 from a long time ago, used another dyno to map this
http://www.rstuning.co.uk/trax2005/...bum=/Rolling Road Results&image=172 Power.jpg

Any other mods on that? ^

 

[RSTuning]

Magnex backbox i think, it was len_beach's car on here

 

[Jay Payne]

So do you have 'stock' re-maps that u just put on a car or do u make a custom one for each car?