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Renault Mégane R.S. Trophy-R 2019 Nürburgring Nordschleife lap record
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RSRowe
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Megane 250 Cup
it's already broke it..... just that the video is going live soon.
Civic's record time was 7:43.8
JamesBryan
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Yeah, should be in the 7:30's i'd imagine.
JamesBryan
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7:40
So 3 seconds quicker than the Civic.... for now.
So 3 seconds quicker than the Civic.... for now.
The Psychedelic Socialist
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I'd really like to see someone (Sport Auto?) take a good selection of older hot hatches and sports cars around the ring, all on Cup 2s.
The laptimes are getting crazy now but I really can't believe that the Megane is as capable as a 911 GT3 (997.2) which put in the same time or 4 seconds faster than a Pagani Zonda. Surely this is just all a case of really exceptional progress in tyres.
On a related note I watched this yesterday:
And going from Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport R to the RS model took nearly 4 seconds off a minute (ish) laptime on an identical car. And both of those tyres and brand new modern track biased tyres, never mind comparing to a tyre from 10 years ago.
NorthloopCup
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Couple of ‘interesting’ gearshifts in there. Nice to see they still can’t build a decent gearbox.
R3k1355
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and different drivers surely?
RSRowe
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Megane 250 Cup
Whilst it's an impressive time, i feel like the Civic will smash it given an up to date lap. There's been alot of fresh grippy tarmac added through the Kallenhard section (and others) since it did it's lap, and the Megane killing bump at Schwedenkreuz has been removed.
Was surprised to see the lap being set in the manual version. I thought they'd want to show off the new gearbox
Was surprised to see the lap being set in the manual version. I thought they'd want to show off the new gearbox
Akrapovik, ohlins, carbon sabelt seats, harnesses, no rear seats, 130kg lost. A good spec for a track car...
Then they said fourty eight thousand pounds?. Will probably be beaten around the ring by a civic with sticky tyres, +20bhp and a full interior and climate control and dab radio on?
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Then they said fourty eight thousand pounds?. Will probably be beaten around the ring by a civic with sticky tyres, +20bhp and a full interior and climate control and dab radio on?
Renault Megane R.S. Trophy-R sets new record at Suzuka
Renault's Megane Trophy-R has broken the front-wheel-drive production car record at Suzuka Circuit by more than three seconds
andybond
ClioSport Club Member
The civic also did its lap on tyres you cannot get as OEM ..
The meg had OEM tyres ..
The meg had OEM tyres ..
brisa4984
ClioSport Club Member
Thats awesome. really impressive.
130kg loss! how?!!!
130kg loss! how?!!!
Seats and sound deadening mostly I expect. They are probably comparing it to the edc kerb weight too.
massiveCoRbyn
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Several
The Civic wasn't a production car, so I don't think it's 'record' should be taken that seriously.
Though how close to production spec any of the record holding cars are will always be up for a date. At least the Mégane doesn't look like a total disaster though lol
Though how close to production spec any of the record holding cars are will always be up for a date. At least the Mégane doesn't look like a total disaster though lol
Definitely on a sticky Bridgestone tyre, the G it pulls though some corners are way up there with serious rubber
andybond
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The s007 is OEM for the meg I believe
Ricardos
ClioSport Club Member
LY 200 EDC
Pretty sure it is for the Trophy, I have the S001
R3k1355
ClioSport Club Member
Except the 48 thousand reasons not to buy one.
Most people spending that kinda money won't be looking to sit in a French hatchback.
Gaz_
ClioSport Club Member
Extreme mode
It's a marketing exercise, and a toy to those who can afford it. It's not going to be their everyday car ?
I'd love one
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Carbon Wheels and Carbon Ceramic brakes won't be cheap.
Leaving aside the argument about technicalities, we live in an age where a french hatchback with a warranty does the same times as a 640bhp lamborghini.
I’m sure the Civic could be faster but then if the Megane had a DCT box it probably could too.
I’m sure the Civic could be faster but then if the Megane had a DCT box it probably could too.
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
It does yes, but to do it in a FWD hot hatch on sticky tyres takes considerably less balls/skill than doing it in something RWD imho.
The lap time is very impressive, but it all just leaves me a little cold now ive done a couple of trackdays in something other than the Mini.
Nothing announced about what rubber it's on, I would be surprised if its not a new tyre or special sticky compound for it seeing as the last two R have been on track biased rubber, and I can't see a road tyre achieving the lateral grip in the lap
JamesBryan
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What is that time like compared to a Bridge to Gantry time.
Guessing BTG is shorter?
Guessing BTG is shorter?
massiveCoRbyn
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Several
It's definitely going to be interesting to see if they can sell them all, as they've obviously struggled in the past. We do live in an age of collectors and speculators, so maybe it will this time. If it had a Ford or BMW badge on it, it would sell out in an instant.
Until a few weeks ago I would have disagreed with this and did to an extent in a previous thread, but myself being new to RWD on track I agree that it takes much more skill and balls to pedal something RWD to its limit over FWD. I'm only driving something with the same torque as a lawnmower on very good modern track tyres so I cant imagine to level needed to pedal a ridiculously powered fat Lambo with 13 year old tech tyres around the ring in that time.
Oh, totally agreed on that one. The 130bhp MX5 is far more interesting to race than the 300bhp volvo even though the latter is way, way quicker.
Fletcher
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