ring lap times!!

[admob]

as the previous thread was deleted, does anyone know how the 172/182 does time wise round the ring, i saw one overtake clarkson when he was in the deisel jag....

 

[CocoPops]

around the 9min mark, give or take 10/20secs

 

[edde]

Its illegal and dangerous to time laps.

8.51 was the best time achieved in a Cup.

Regards lap time though its very much down to driver confidence in knowing the track and pushing the car. The ring is a very unusual track unlike any other race circuit. 172s could run between 8.30 and 11 minutes depening on driver. Also the advantages of none ABS cars are there but 172s and 182s full weight have IMO more flat stable platform.

 

[davyboy]

I think an 8.45 would be possible with normal tyres.

Dave

 

[y0z2a]

Doesnt eddd run around that time Davy?

regards to Claire BTW. Did you try the tyre pressures? or did you go for another tyre?

/y0z

 

[davyboy]

I think he got around that time.

I wouldnt think we would find many people quicker than him in a Clio either.

Not really messed about with tyres yet, thats something I still need to do!

Dave

 

[Clart]

didnt edde get 8:45 in his cup after 1000s of laps?

 

[EVOgone]

Quote: Originally posted by edde on 29 June 2005


Its illegal and dangerous to time laps.

8.51 was the best time achieved in a Cup.

Regards lap time though its very much down to driver confidence in knowing the track and pushing the car. The ring is a very unusual track unlike any other race circuit. 172s could run between 8.30 and 11 minutes depening on driver. Also the advantages of none ABS cars are there but 172s and 182s full weight have IMO more flat stable platform.



Personally i dont think not having abs is advantagous, i would prefer to have it especially at the Ring. It only takes one lock-up to get into trouble.

 

[blink172]

Agreed steve, to hot into one of the 90 or 180 degree corners and your eating barrier around there.

As said, anywhere between 08:**and 10 minutes is about right, depending on traffic, weather, car, confidence, hooking up the sections together and a million other things.


[Edited by blink172 on 30 June 2005 at 8:58am]

Ok, 08:30 might be a little on the low side. But 8:45 isnt going to be the quickest lap. Anyway, it should be about enjoying the circuit and improving your driving skills, not about who can go quicker as your just begging to stack you car around there

 

[davyboy]

A Clio cup/172/182 is not capable of an 8.30.

 

[fin_tm]

Quote: Originally posted by davyboy on 30 June 2005

A Clio cup/172/182 is not capable of an 8.30.

I think so too...

 

[y0z2a]

Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 29 June 2005
didnt edde get 8:45 in his cup after 1000s of laps?


Eddd doesnt time himself.

The only reason that i said he did about 8:45 was because daveyboy said to me when we were at the ring last year that eddd was about 15 seconds quicker than him... 9:00 - 0:15 = 8:45

/y0z

 

[y0z2a]

Quote: Originally posted by fin_tm on 30 June 2005
Quote: Originally posted by davyboy on 30 June 2005A Clio cup/172/182 is not capable of an 8.30.[/QUOTE]I think so too...


Eddd doesnt think he can go around there much quicker than he does without risking life and limb, so I would be inclined to agree too.

/y0z

 

[EVOgone]

Quote: Originally posted by y0z2a on 30 June 2005

Quote: Originally posted by fin_tm on 30 June 2005

Quote: Originally posted by davyboy on 30 June 2005

A Clio cup/172/182 is not capable of an 8.30.

I think so too...

Eddd doesnt think he can go around there much quicker than he does without risking life and limb, so I would be inclined to agree too.

/y0z

I agree 8:45 yes 8:30 nobody on this forum.

[Edited by EVOgone on 30 June 2005 at 2:52pm]

 

[Day]

I can see the headlines now...

Clios written off at the ring trying for elusive 8 min 30 sec lap.

 

[Clart]

so edd can do 8:45, and EVOgone can manage 8:51 2 up after 25 laps?

 

[Day]

To be fair, Jon did a 9.03 with me in the car, take off the 10 sec+ weight handicap and remove the traffic then 8.45 time is achievable with balls out determination.

 

[jon_r]

I would suggest 8:45 is the limit of the RS range.

Obviously factory standard.

 

[Ang]

Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 30 June 2005

so edd can do 8:45, and EVOgone can manage 8:51 2 up after 25 laps?



Yep..thats correct

 

[TheCake]

Quote: Originally posted by Ang on 30 June 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 30 June 2005so edd can do 8:45, and EVOgone can manage 8:51 2 up after 25 laps?Yep..thats correct

Seconded. As his passenger for the lap I can confirm an 8.51. Whats the problem?

 

[Clart]

nothing im just confirming it

 

[Tom]

Do we really need to go through this again?

If we cant be sensible and discuss things like adults then, this and future topics about ring times will be removed.

 

[Clart]

yeah

 

[davyboy]

Quote: Originally posted by jon_r on 30 June 2005

I would suggest 8:45 is the limit of the RS range.

Obviously factory standard.

I agree. Although there maybe someone out there who can give it everything and get an 8.40. R rated tyres and suspension could get you down to 8.30-8.35.

Dave

 

[EVOgone]

Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 30 June 2005

so edd can do 8:45, and EVOgone can manage 8:51 2 up after 25 laps?

8.45 is an estimated time according to the thread, if it was verified then well done as that is a good lap.

I hear Edd has done 1000 laps not cheep at 15-20 Euro a lap..!

 

[Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 30 June 2005

yeah

That includes you.

 

[Clart]

bite me

 

[TheCake]

Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 30 June 2005
nothing im just confirming it
Im glad we managed to clear it up then.

 

[jon_r]

Quote: Originally posted by EVOgone on 30 June 2005
Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 30 June 2005so edd can do 8:45, and EVOgone can manage 8:51 2 up after 25 laps?[/QUOTE]8.45 is an estimated time according to the thread, if it was verified then well done as that is a good lap.I hear Edd has done 1000 laps not cheep at 15-20 Euro a lap..!


Edd lives nearby, so he has a Jahreskarte.

 

[EVOgone]

Quote: Originally posted by jon_r on 30 June 2005

Quote: Originally posted by EVOgone on 30 June 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 30 June 2005

so edd can do 8:45, and EVOgone can manage 8:51 2 up after 25 laps?

8.45 is an estimated time according to the thread, if it was verified then well done as that is a good lap.

I hear Edd has done 1000 laps not cheep at 15-20 Euro a lap..!

Edd lives nearby, so he has a Jahreskarte.

Lucky guy, i would be having one of those also if i lived within 100 miles of the place.

 

[Tom]

im tempted to get a 25 lap pass now! it would still save me money.

 

[y0z2a]

would it teach you to drive ;-)

/y0z

 

[Dan##]

Maybe hes going to buy it for jon!

 

[edde]

Quote: Originally posted by EVOgone on 30 June 2005

Quote: Originally posted by edde on 29 June 2005


Its illegal and dangerous to time laps.

8.51 was the best time achieved in a Cup.

Regards lap time though its very much down to driver confidence in knowing the track and pushing the car. The ring is a very unusual track unlike any other race circuit. 172s could run between 8.30 and 11 minutes depening on driver. Also the advantages of none ABS cars are there but 172s and 182s full weight have IMO more flat stable platform.




Personally i dont think not having abs is advantagous, i would prefer to have it especially at the Ring. It only takes one lock-up to get into trouble.

Yep I agree Id always prefere it for safer laps however Im inclined to think for all out fast laps none ABS is better. Its not as safe though for definate for most drivers.

 

[davyboy]

Quote: Originally posted by jon_r on 30 June 2005



Edd lives nearby, so he has a Jahreskarte.

I live miles away, but I still have one. 60 laps breaks even.

I reckon I have already done 10 free laps this year

Dave

 

[fmp_]

i did a 9.34 in my 182 cup, 4 up, and we where slowed by a bit of traffic.

that was on my 6th lap ever round there.

when i go back soon, i will be going solo, and aiming for a sub 9, which should be easy.

 

[blink172]

Quote: Originally posted by fmp_ on 30 June 2005




i did a 9.34 in my 182 cup, 4 up, and we where slowed by a bit of traffic.

that was on my 6th lap ever round there.

when i go back soon, i will be going solo, and aiming for a sub 9, which should be easy.

And this year Cliosport Award for services to comedy goes too.........

 

[fmp_]

eh?

 

[seb]

i did a 10.15 approx after 12 laps...

and no i wasnt timing... my mate told me afterwards as he kept it a secret... lol

 

[davyboy]

I blame Jeremy Clarkson for this timing stupidity.

At the end of the day its all about fun, and the way you buy your tickets makes yo uwant to get the most out of every lap. With a Jahreskarte I always have another lap....

If you can do 8.50 after 10 laps and crash on you 50th, then the driver who has done 50 laps but only timed a lap at 9.15 is the better driver. Gradual improvement is the key.

Dave