RS Tuner, talk to me...

[Tommo.]

Ok so looking to get an RSTuner, but car currenty has a K-tec map on it, I hear K-tec lock the maps on making them difficult to change. Is there any truth in this?

 

[Chi]

If ktec have mapped it why would you bother with an RS TUNER map

 

[McGherkin]

If ktec have mapped it why would you bother with an RS TUNER map

Because the RS Tuner won't blow his car up.

 

[Chi]

I'd get it on a RR. .

 

[DomP182]

I must admit I'm a bit unsure what I need if I only want the 98 Ron map. Or rather what I need to spend my money on after I get a 2nd hand one. Think I'm over thinking it

 

[Chi]

Does the car drive ok?

 

[DomP182]

I'm looking forward to a little bit more torque, if I don't feel it I will be disappointed

 

[Tommo.]

Because the RS Tuner won't blow his car up.

This tbh.

But also the RSTuner is handy to have as a diagnostics tool. In the last 6 months i've probably spent £100 on diagnostic checks @ £30 a time, so it will more than pay for itself i'm sure.

 

[Chi]

£30 get it on a RR

 

[matt911]

My understanding was the RS Tuner is for a stock car, + decat if you want pops and bangs. You have any modifications?

BTW why on earth do you have to buy extra modules for ABS etc? :banghead:

 

[Chip-mk1]

My understanding was the RS Tuner is for a stock car, + decat if you want pops and bangs. You have any modifications?

BTW why on earth do you have to buy extra modules for ABS etc? :banghead:

The RStuner can upload one of a series of maps that are written for the standard car. It can also diagnose and delete trouble codes/faults.
Abs is an add on module that allows you to diagnose and clear abs faults too.

 

[GCC]

Don't think it's been answered already, so thought I'd ask again.
There is an unlock for fault codes on other manufacturers, this one I know.
But does the abs and airbag add ons get locked to the car like the pop and bang? And if I get one with all three unlocks does it also work on other manufacturers for the abs and airbag?

 

[matt911]

The RStuner can upload one of a series of maps that are written for the standard car. It can also diagnose and delete trouble codes/faults.
Abs is an add on module that allows you to diagnose and clear abs faults too.

I mean why dont these modules come complete with the thing?

 

[GCC]

I mean why dont these modules come complete with the thing?

If you made it wouldn't you have extras for the people that wanted them for a little extra cost?? I sure would lol

 

[Chip-mk1]

If you made it wouldn't you have extras for the people that wanted them for a little extra cost?? I sure would lol

Also a way to reduce the cost of the basic unit so you can sell more. If you include everything the price has to go up.

 

[Steven103]

So, by way of

1) Summarising what's been confirmed
2) Waiting for gaps to be filled in

I must admit I'm a bit unsure what I need if I only want the 98 Ron map. Or rather what I need to spend my money on after I get a 2nd hand one. Think I'm over thinking it

As per this ^^^. AFAICMO (as far as I can make out )

* You need an unlock code (£33) if you want to remap (regardless of 1*2, rs tuner version, or desired map.)
* You don't need an unlock code for general fault reading.
* Depending on what you what to do (ABS, airbags etc) you may need to purchase the additional module.


Then according to Thomas:

It's not about what rstuner is, it's more to do with the map.

I could use the 98Ron map that Pat 182 (still need to give you the disc back) gave me. However I couldn't use the pops & bangs map that @adamjcat had just brought.
@-Danman- also bought a RSTuner and could use the 98Ron map I gave him, but couldn't use my P&B map that I had just purchased.

Basically Henk has started including the VIN (at a guess) in the map so it will only write to that car. The older maps are fine but ones purchased recently are not.

* You can "file share" old maps regardless
* You can't file share new maps as they are locked by (?) VIN

Still leaving slight uncertainty:

* All pops & bangs maps are "new" therefore can't be shared? needs confirmation
* What (date of purchase of map?) counts as "old" and "new" ? needs confirmation


But you STILL need to match the map to the ECU version, according to Chip:

As for if you can use the map, only if their car is the same revision as software as yours, so no good trying to put a ph1 map on a 182 etc.

* Where there mid-manufacture revisions? needs confirmation

e.g. does an 04 plate 182 have the same ECU revision as a 55 plate 182 (and just for the sake of clarity this is the version of ECU hardware or software? But nothing to do with the lookup tables that constitute a standard map as these didn't change mid production, only between ph1 172, ph2 172 and ph2 182?)



Potentially (any RS tuner + unlock code + sufficiently "old" map that it doesn't lock to vin from someone friendly + map sourced from car with same ECU revision as yours) = map your car for a net £33 (40E)

Failing that (any RS tuner + unlock code + new map from fastchip.nl website so guaranteed to work) = map your car with 98ron for a net £57.80 (70E) or £66.06 (80E) for P&B

Yaya? Nay?

 

[Steven103]

* "Were" not "where."

Kill me now.