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Satellite or 4G Broadband



KitsonRis

ClioSport Club Member
I don’t have broadband at home and still using an ADSL connection, because rural life. While the speed is ok and I can stream films, join Teams calls for work and use my VM do do work (the virtual desktop is pretty much a no go though) it is the reliability which is the worst and makes it unusable at times. It will randomly drop out over the day from about 1 min to what I had last night over 2hrs. The router is still saying “you have internet” but there is no connection. And I’m going to be WFH for 12-18months it’s not good enough. BT have one more chance at resolving this, they have sent someone to the house over the summer and they did something with the box on the wall and a new router but it hasn’t worked, I think they need to check the external connection to the house. I’m pretty certain I can cancel my contract as they are not giving the service I am paying for.

So I have been looking at other options. Satellite or 4G.

I’ve tried a 4G broadband last year and as I don’t get 5G signal they wouldn’t give me a proper router, only the credit card sized devices. And I ended up giving that back as it wasn’t good - from memory the WiFi signal it gave wasn’t good. My 4G signal is ok (I ended up streaming most of Avengers Endgame on my phone last night while my internet wasn’t working and that was fine and no drop outs).

When googling for Starlink the things I’ve found are it’s expensive and there is a cap on priority data and then once that limit is used up it’s back of the queue and no speed. But pretty much most websites are like “satellite exists but why not use our 4G service”, this is a bit like a sales pitch of buy their product though. Although it is cheaper and no limits. The ones I have seen come with a 4G antenna that boosts the signal and you also get an actual WiFi router.

Has anyone got any experience of either?
Anything to look out for? The 4G with antenna option all looks to come from unknown providers and not the usual phone companies which puts me off a little. I am on Vodafone so I know that signal is good and work gave me one of their 4G devices a while back and that was EE and that had no signal - assume need to work out which provider is supplying the 4G.
 

Matt Cup

ClioSport Club Member
  Leon Cupra
I’d try a cheap mifi box with various contractless sims to see which is best first and see how you get on with it. From what you have said about satellite it seems a pita.

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botfch

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
We have Starlink at the farm and whilst it is expensive vs normal broadband it is generally decent apart from the upload speeds.

We tried a 4G router but since they started rolling out 5G it got really patchy so we gave up with it.
 

KitsonRis

ClioSport Club Member
How much is Starlink compared to regular bb?
It’s about £500 for the equipment and then the package I was looking at about £75 a month but that was for 65Gb data a month. Which I have no idea will be enough. The next deal up was £125 a month.
I don’t mind paying if it will do the job.

Wait, what?! What is that mifi box?! That looks exactly like I want at least to test! So it converts your sim into a router? Like if that works and I can upgrade my phone to unlimited 4G it could actually work…
 

Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
Starlink, no question.
We use it for business (backup). Id have no quarms about home use. It's even sound with cloud cover - obvs not amazing, but better than the 56k modem you're smashing.
30 day return if you're not happy. I'd plough it with data for 20 days on some russian torrent site and make your mind up.

Rural BB is a pig and I feel your pain. Until there's cable in the ground (not made of a Clio 182 loom, like you've got now) then I'd just go for the best.
Internet is too vital now.
I can't tug without it.



Edit. Gen2 kits on eBay for £100-150.
 

KitsonRis

ClioSport Club Member
Hmm I might have to go and work out how much data a month I use.
I don’t do gaming so the slow ping isn’t a problem with satellite.

It’s annoying as the main part of the village has actual broadband but I’m about a mile away and it doesn’t. We have managed as it is for a year but with WFH next year it is going to be a problem.
 

botfch

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 182
It’s about £500 for the equipment and then the package I was looking at about £75 a month but that was for 65Gb data a month. Which I have no idea will be enough. The next deal up was £125 a month.
I don’t mind paying if it will do the job.

Wait, what?! What is that mifi box?! That looks exactly like I want at least to test! So it converts your sim into a router? Like if that works and I can upgrade my phone to unlimited 4G it could actually work…

Starlink is unlimited for home use now unless your looking at buisness plans?

“Good news! Your Starlink subscription will remain unlimited and will no longer be deprioritized after 1 TB of data use.”
 

charltjr

ClioSport Club Member
I’d try a cheap mifi box with various contractless sims to see which is best first and see how you get on with it. From what you have said about satellite it seems a pita.

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Absolutely do this. It’s all about the network.

We don’t have 5G here, “just” 4G but here’s a speedtest

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That’s on EE but other networks here are dogshit. You need to try them to find the right one. We‘ve been using 4G as our internet for over a year now and can’t fault it. 4K streaming, video conferencing, it does the lot. 600Gb a month data allowance.

Be careful about the capability of your mobile router, some are very old and their chipsets can’t cope with higher speeds.

We run one of these

With this data SIM
 

riz

ClioSport Club Member
  Jaguar XFR
Has your village done the rural rollout yet?

Ours did, in Glos, and it's been great.

Starlink stuff often pops up On Marketplace
 

KitsonRis

ClioSport Club Member
Starlink is unlimited for home use now unless your looking at buisness plans?

“Good news! Your Starlink subscription will remain unlimited and will no longer be deprioritized after 1 TB of data use.”
I did chose home plan but that was with another provider and not Starlink. I’ll double check though.
Absolutely do this. It’s all about the network.

We don’t have 5G here, “just” 4G but here’s a speedtest

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That’s on EE but other networks here are dogshit. You need to try them to find the right one. We‘ve been using 4G as our internet for over a year now and can’t fault it. 4K streaming, video conferencing, it does the lot. 600Gb a month data allowance.

Be careful about the capability of your mobile router, some are very old and their chipsets can’t cope with higher speeds.

We run one of these

With this data SIM
I’ve just ran a speed test on my phone and it’s giving 32.6Mbps which is ok? Doesn’t say what the upload speed is, I know it’s not perfect as when I upload pictures on here it takes forever and I think it times out a lot (says “parsing error”) I think I might give this a go and take it from there, worth a try. I wonder if a package with those external antennas will be better.
Has your village done the rural rollout yet?

Ours did, in Glos, and it's been great.

Starlink stuff often pops up On Marketplace
Don’t think it has, unless to the main part of the village. I doubt we will get it to the house here seeing as it’s about 4 houses on the lane about a mile from the nearest cabinet.

Thanks for the suggestions and advice!
 

charltjr

ClioSport Club Member
We’re waiting for gigaclear full fibre to be connected for us. Most of the rest of the town got it well over a year ago but it’s yet to be sorted for the rest, was kinda frustrating but TBH since we’ve had this 4G setup I don’t think we honestly need any more.
 


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