Civic Type R EK9
oh ok i tried lol
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Civic Type R EK9
lol ok well my twin pipes might scare you off i dont know!!! LOL
ph1 172 Black
Everybody knows the ph1 is a poor man's ph2, even the SEAT boys
What ph1 is the original! They are lighter for a start. They had to change gear ratios on ph2 to keep 0-60 times. If you want a load of extra crap that don't make you go any faster then go ahead. I mean cruise control cause of electronic throttle, I'd rather have cable throttle response. Then the shoddy auto lights and that!
I got a ph1 cause I remember when they came out and what a stir they caused. 172 is a poor mans 182. I mean come on! Daftest comment ever. Matter of taste.
TBH honest the SEAT does look nice and I nearly got a Leon Cupra in yellow but always fancied a ph1 172 in black.
182 Trophy 019/500
The Leon was a nice 'lazy' car to drive, just float along on a bit of boost however it was not fun. When i was driving it i was always thinking back to the clio days - thinking if i was in the clio i would blip the throttle, change down and then speed up for roundabouts :evil: however the leon didnt really corner that well (big spanish arse).
I have a big grin each time i drive the clio! Which i never really got in the Leon. It was nice! Just wasn't fun. It would appeal if i had a wife and kids... But i don't... So... out go the rear seats in the trophy
Pajero 3.8 V6
Everybody knows the ph1 is a poor man's ph2, even the SEAT boys
What ph1 is the original! They are lighter for a start. They had to change gear ratios on ph2 to keep 0-60 times. If you want a load of extra crap that don't make you go any faster then go ahead. I mean cruise control cause of electronic throttle, I'd rather have cable throttle response. Then the shoddy auto lights and that!
I got a ph1 cause I remember when they came out and what a stir they caused. 172 is a poor mans 182. I mean come on! Daftest comment ever. Matter of taste.
TBH honest the SEAT does look nice and I nearly got a Leon Cupra in yellow but always fancied a ph1 172 in black.
Another thing to add to that is that I see ph2 172/182's every other day, The only time I see a ph1 172 is mine in window reflections!!!
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Civic Type R EK9
yeh the leon looks like it would handle well and stop with those brembos
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
Not really. Totally caining the thing, maybe - but StevieGreenstuff can easily stay with mine in his Ph1 172. And don't forgot the moving goal-posts of Reno performance figures. For all you know, your 182 might only just manage 170bhp? :rasp:
I personally think the Ph.1 172s look great - special, without being in-your-face. Rare to see them knocking about too, I find.
D.
Civic Type R EK9
Then yours maybe 160bhp lol ive chased a few 172's and after 60 i find they aint much work!! maybe because mine has only don 15k
Cookie
ClioSport Club Member
Everybody knows the ph1 is a poor man's ph2, even the SEAT boys
What ph1 is the original! They are lighter for a start. They had to change gear ratios on ph2 to keep 0-60 times. If you want a load of extra crap that don't make you go any faster then go ahead. I mean cruise control cause of electronic throttle, I'd rather have cable throttle response. Then the shoddy auto lights and that!
I got a ph1 cause I remember when they came out and what a stir they caused. 172 is a poor mans 182. I mean come on! Daftest comment ever. Matter of taste.
TBH honest the SEAT does look nice and I nearly got a Leon Cupra in yellow but always fancied a ph1 172 in black.
I <3 my cruise control, means I can sit on the M4 for hours on end and not get an aching foot
You enjoy your blue interior my love!
Civic Type R EK9
lol yeh i must admit cruise control is amazing never use the speed limiter tho
Civic Type R EK9
i never that often drive motorways and when i do there aint no specs cameras round here
106 GTi
Stray a bit futher south, M5 Junction 29 -31 and there are.
Civic Type R EK9
there gone now mate the exeter ones they were average speed check ones
106 GTi
aka as SPECS, nice to know they are gone now.
Civic Type R EK9
yeh sorry mate i didnt make myself clear then yeh the yellow average SPECS ones!!
Civic Type R
Clio RS vs Ibiza Cupra remaped
straight line (Ibiza) 0 -1
handling (Clio) 1 -1
Fun(Clio) 2 -1
long relaxed journey's e.g motorways (Ibiza) 2 -2
Comfort (prob say ibiza but clio has slightly better spec) 2 -3
Reliability (clio SO Far!) 3-3
It's interesting to read what people's views are on this point having owned both!
Both cars have strong points and to say which is better depends on what you want as a driver. The clio handles alot better and is alot more fun, adjustable and involving on a spirited drive however, the Ibiza is quicker
in a staight line and there is a really big difference in the mid range. This also makes the Ibiza a more relaxed and comfortable partner on long jornney's esp with the higher gearing.
I owned a remapped Ibiza for 2 years and 45,000 miles and i found it great car and I now own a 182. There are times when I miss the SEAT and others when I really don't.
straight line (Ibiza) 0 -1
handling (Clio) 1 -1
Fun(Clio) 2 -1
long relaxed journey's e.g motorways (Ibiza) 2 -2
Comfort (prob say ibiza but clio has slightly better spec) 2 -3
Reliability (clio SO Far!) 3-3
It's interesting to read what people's views are on this point having owned both!
Both cars have strong points and to say which is better depends on what you want as a driver. The clio handles alot better and is alot more fun, adjustable and involving on a spirited drive however, the Ibiza is quicker
in a staight line and there is a really big difference in the mid range. This also makes the Ibiza a more relaxed and comfortable partner on long jornney's esp with the higher gearing.
I owned a remapped Ibiza for 2 years and 45,000 miles and i found it great car and I now own a 182. There are times when I miss the SEAT and others when I really don't.
Civic Type R EK9
remapped it may be quicker but not std for sure
Civic Type R EK9
and i doubt remapped theres loads in it
where in somerset are you? cos you really boring me and il merrily drive up to somerset from london to prove theres f**k all in between 172's /cups/182's. all down to driver ability(im down in taunton once a month so if your near we have a little meet up to say hello). only advantage i could see from 172's/182's to the ph1 172 is the better suspension set-up but if your still a crap driver (that better kully) you will stil get your arse raped if you dont know what your doing. jayxx83 of here who has a 182ff and we get about abit and we both shift through gears as good as each other everytime its the same story. 1st gear the ph1 172 is pulls a tiny little abit then in 2nd he pulls the gap back and by the time we get to speeds the car cant go any quicker his half a car length in front. but i wouldnt try it now if i was him....
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Civic Type R EK9
yeh im up nr weston-super-mare would be cool to meet
Civic Type R EK9
ive been banned from cyber arguing on other forums too much i will just ignore comments like that!! at the end of the day we are all enthusiasts so why not all get along
Civic Type R EK9
lol i dont worry i got broad shoulders LOL
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deadonkey
I would honestly say the seat looked more dated than the clio.
Ibizia's are pap, my Williams would keep up within about 4 car lengths 1st through 4th gear against my mates 260bhp one... although how it made 260bhp @ the fly with 198.9bhp @ the wheels I'll never know... not that impressive really for FMIC, bigger turbo and mapped and the handling is nothing short of abysmal (sp?)
I thought they were based on a canal barge looking at the way it pitches and wallows in the corners
I used to have a cupra 20VT which made 220BHP and 265 ftlbs and it was very quick, standard k03 turbo runs out of steam quickly and dies off at about 5k revs. I had brembo brakes with 303mm rotors so it did stop well too. Handling was shocking on std suspension though. Sold it to get a delta evo which had 260 bhp - the cupra kept up with it no problem on the straights.
For straight lines the cupra would leave the clio for dust (i own a ph2 172 now) but the Clio is much more buzzy and feels much better round the corners. The dash on the seats is awful and the engine management on them has a mind of its own.
All said and done, I regret selling my cupra and am thinking of selling my 172 to buy another cupra..
For straight lines the cupra would leave the clio for dust (i own a ph2 172 now) but the Clio is much more buzzy and feels much better round the corners. The dash on the seats is awful and the engine management on them has a mind of its own.
All said and done, I regret selling my cupra and am thinking of selling my 172 to buy another cupra..
133/225/CLS AMG
The Phase 1 Clio does look kinda dated, purely coz the Phase 2 172 came out and still looks fresh today.
People who own different cars don't necessarily know the potential of other brands/models.
In the same way I don't know much about Ibizas they clearly don't know much about Clio 172s!!! And why would they.
Only thing to say is, if they pull up next to any 172 or 182 they might get a surprise, even with the wheels being 'too small' and that its 'not low enough'!!! lol
People who own different cars don't necessarily know the potential of other brands/models.
In the same way I don't know much about Ibizas they clearly don't know much about Clio 172s!!! And why would they.
Only thing to say is, if they pull up next to any 172 or 182 they might get a surprise, even with the wheels being 'too small' and that its 'not low enough'!!! lol
