SLR Opinion

[Marky_]

Send them both to me and i'll see what i can come up with

 

[JJ!]

Here are some D40 shots with 55-200 VR in overcast conditions, full size can be seen on my Flickr account.

And with 18-55 Lens kit

And nearly full size crop of the robin:

 

[andywright182]

I never implied any is crap, I am merely stating that for the money you pay ypu would be better with the cannon as you will get more value.

You can get decent results with a pocket camera if you are in the right place at the right time and use the correct post processing so its swings and roundabouts really.

 

[Lagerlout]

How can comparing images taken by two different people at different times in different locations be a fair comparison of a camera ffs!! Come on!!

He's implying the d40 is crap compared to the 400d, which i'm prepared to help prove isn't the case. I'm all ears to hear your better idea sweetness...

The D80 is about on par with the 400d according to dpreview.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos400d/page22.asp

Personally I don't like the way the Nikons I've used process images. Falsely over-saturated inmho, but that could well be a plus for some people!

Ultimately there's f**k all between them... but if you must defend your purchase then so be it.

 

[JJ!]

Ultimately there's f**k all between them... but if you must defend your purchase then so be it.

lol - so true!!!

 

[Lagerlout]

Oh and certainly the D40 lacks a few features that the 400d has.. but in terms of pictures, unless you were blowing up to A3 and beyond I doubt the pixel count makes any odds.

 

[JJ!]

In reality... its more about the glass! My lens cost more than the body!

 

[unofficialPete]

At low ISO you won't notice the difference between entry level and the high end bodies. 400D vs 40D and its near impossible to tell apart, same for D40 vs 400D, its functionality and features that matter as you buy/upgrade.

 

[terribleclio]

can i ask one thing? Why are you only looking at argos. Go to a proper camera shop or buy online. You can get the D40 kit for around £240 now days, 55-200vr is around £115 so for £355 you can get a D40 with the 18-55 kit lens and 55-200vr.

Against from argos you pay £490 and don't even get the VR version.

 

[Charlieboy]

can i ask one thing? Why are you only looking at argos. Go to a proper camera shop or buy online. You can get the D40 kit for around £240 now days, 55-200vr is around £115 so for £355 you can get a D40 with the 18-55 kit lens and 55-200vr.

Against from argos you pay £490 and don't even get the VR version.

I was only flicking through argos mate as my mate getting a normal digi-cam and I was having a look and then decided I need an SLR. Thanks anyways.

 

[Williams025]

Nikon D40/D40x

Canon 350D

Go into Jessops and have a play, see which you like the feel of and buy it.

Yep all good, but I'd go for the 400D over the 350D as they have come down in price recently and are a cracking buy!

 

[tonk_172]

The samsung dslr gx10 is the same camera as the pentax k10d and uses all the pentax lenses so basically its a good camera if you can live with not having canon or nikon on your camera same as a skoda to a volkwagan.

 

[McBunny]

The samsung dslr gx10 is the same camera as the pentax k10d and uses all the pentax lenses so basically its a good camera if you can live with not having canon or nikon on your camera same as a skoda to a volkwagan.

lol no its not at all

 

[tonk_172]

so you saying the samsung is not the same as the pentax could you please explain the difference as from using pentax forums they are regarded the same camera apart from the name.

 

[ukaskew]

pmsl at this thread, some quality comments/arguments. I'm personally looking forward to the Clart vs. S666 face off.

Closing comment: my K850i is only just shy of the resolution of my D50.

Closing comment 2: handling is everything. Really isn't much between Canon and Nikon at any level, but they 'hold' very differently and it's completely personal preference. There really isn't a valid argument of getting one over the other unless you've held both, and then it's a personal preference anyway.

 

[Lagerlout]

Summary ^^^

as a complete noob do you really think you are fit to comment on which is the better piece of equipment?

No but as a fast & wide prime user who likes auto focus I'm going to back him up :clown:

LOL

I'm with Pete :clown:

 

[McBunny]

so you saying the samsung is not the same as the pentax could you please explain the difference as from using pentax forums they are regarded the same camera apart from the name.

im not saying those arnt teh same camera. what im saying is that there is alot more too it than not having canon or nikon on your camera !!!

 

[tonk_172]

the plus point with pentax is that the body as shake reduction inside the camera body so you can buy long focal length prime lenses of ebay for peanuts and have shake reduction without paying hundreads of pounds.for example 200mm f4 prime £25.00 and a 135mm f2.8 for around £40.00 and these lenses are very sharp and built like a tank no plastic.

 

[theduck]

yeah but the pentax is pretty shitty. if you want in body image stabiliasation then there is only one, well no sorry, there is two answers... Olympus E3 and Olympus E510

 

[tonk_172]

could you explain pretty s**tty as they get good reviews and have you by any chance tried one......

 

[theduck]

Yes I have tried one, I found colour representation poor, auto focus slow, and dynamic range also pretty rubbish.

 

[tonk_172]

Few shots from the pentax k100d

135mm f3.5 prime very sharp

70-300 tamron 5.6

So you lot think they are any good...

Also worth reading
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Canon-EOS-400D---compared-against-rivals

 

[theduck]

random photos arent exactly great for saying how good a camera is or isnt. In a back to back test with my E1, an E420, a canon 400d and the Pentax, the pentax was imo noticeably poor.

 

[McBunny]

end of the day they are never all going to be shooting the exact same bit of glass so 100% comparisons cant really be made