NOTHING
you can pick up seat ibiza cupras cheap now, good cars , dont handle though
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Renault Clio 172 Ph2
they also break, vag or not. they are shite.
I had a Gti-6 before the Cup and its a very good car for what they are worth these days. IMO, a very well built french car.
Punto GT
to be honest, the only other car that i can think of in a simalar price range is the 306 gti6...
this is comparing it against a 172 cup...0-120 cup is ahead by a by about a cars lengh...but the 306 has a better top end as the clios limiter kicks in @ 140.
this is comparing it against a 172 cup...0-120 cup is ahead by a by about a cars lengh...but the 306 has a better top end as the clios limiter kicks in @ 140.
Punto GT
yep @ 141ish the rev limiter will kick in & the gear change light will come on...
IF ONLY RENAULT MADE A 6TH GEAR..........
IF ONLY RENAULT MADE A 6TH GEAR..........
Punto GT
by the speedo...
this is a standard 172 cup tho...& the same thing happened to a friends one im telling you, a standard cup cant do more that 140 lol...
this is a standard 172 cup tho...& the same thing happened to a friends one im telling you, a standard cup cant do more that 140 lol...
^ you can take the gti to 140 and practially roll a fag and adjust your seat at the same time.
In the clio it feels like your going to blow down the road like a bin lid in a gale
In the clio it feels like your going to blow down the road like a bin lid in a gale
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
FPMSL!! I'm glad i'm not the only one that feels VERY unsafe doing over 110 in a Clio.
Punto GT
but thats the phase 1 tho man...
phase1s in all cars are always faster...
small example: Punto GT's
GT1 136bhp
GT3 131bhp
phase1s in all cars are always faster...
small example: Punto GT's
GT1 136bhp
GT3 131bhp
lol well thats not always correct but i get what you mean fella
Honestly it shouldnt be hitting the limiter at 140 unless you have a really accurate speedo
Punto GT
the next time i do it...IF do it ill take a photo, WELL TRY...lol
immaculate clio 172
I just sold a mk5 golf gti and got my 2002 ph2 172 due too being sick of huge finance etc and il say the gti is a lovely car but my 172 would be all over it and so much more fun to drive and 172 is worth a qaurter of the gti lol gti = too sensible
Renaultsport 200
Ive driven one for long periods (my dads) and I agree it has no character, but it is quick.
Alright, its not going to set your hair on fire but neither does the 172. What it does have though is oodles more usable power day to day.
Press the loud pedal and in any gear it will pick up. It sounds pretty good too.
Admittedly though it doesnt take bends like little clios.
get a loan and buy a dc5 or CTR/197
Original quote:
'I know there are better cars out there for more money so the rule is for around £2000 something that offers EVERYTHING the Clio has'
how about if you cant keep on the thread line i asked then dont post. thank you
was suggesting that there was not really anything that would compare for the money
I was refering to the 7 seconds to 60 and under 18 to 100 thing mate.
VTS's actually handle better according to top gear at the time :quiet:
Doesnt really read that way matey
meh, swings and round abouts lol, some will say the clio's better, some will say saxo, i think they both handle brilliantly and i would have one if i could only fit in the flippin thing lol
Subaru Impreza P1
Wrong!
Lol personally i think the CTR is quote floaty, after doing a few hard miles in one i found it grips really well, but is a bit drab to drive. but im a clio owner your a type r owner so we could be at this all day so lets get back on topic , the CTR cant be in the equasion as they are tyo expensive
Fair do's mate
So short list is:
306 GTi-6 / Rallye
106 Gti/VTS, though smaller inside
MG ZR 160 - Slightly slower, but newer car for the money
Subaru Impreza P1
Tiff Needel cant drive for s**t, there is a difference between handling and grip, you have driven my car and i yours and i would say mine handles better because the CTR's steering is to light.
But credit where its due its got a cracking gear box, drives really well and just as quick in a straight line but i dont think it handles better.
So f'uck you stewart.
Renaultsport 200
To the op... You have got the perfect car now for your needs.
Don't waste money on a car thats isnt a step up that is only (probably) going to cause you grief. (that is if you are thinking of changing)
Your mates don't know what they are talking about. End of story imo
Don't waste money on a car thats isnt a step up that is only (probably) going to cause you grief. (that is if you are thinking of changing)
Your mates don't know what they are talking about. End of story imo
Im not planning on selling mate don't worry
its just an intertesing subject ,hoping il be able to fit a pushchair in the back then it will be fine lol
E90 320d M Sport
Controversial ^^
I think my old Saxo handles better than my 172. The 172 seems to roll a tad more but it sticks better than the Saxo due to the low profile tyres.
Both handle very well!
black gold 182
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1083279.htm
i think this would t**t all over a 182 lol
running costs would be slightly higher i'd expect.
my last car was a 306 rallye - you can tell much of a difference between that and my 182. the rallye pulled to 140 with 13 stone of ballast in the passenger seat!
i think this would t**t all over a 182 lol
running costs would be slightly higher i'd expect.
my last car was a 306 rallye - you can tell much of a difference between that and my 182. the rallye pulled to 140 with 13 stone of ballast in the passenger seat!
black gold 182
from 1st hand experience.....no lol. i was racing a civic type r at the time - i kept up til 130 ish then the rallye slowed right up and creeped to 140. the 182 probably is quicker up there.
the sound the rallye made was sexual though and it was so rare - i got car-jacked whilst driving it after only 3 months lol. peterborough s**t whole!!!
the sound the rallye made was sexual though and it was so rare - i got car-jacked whilst driving it after only 3 months lol. peterborough s**t whole!!!
s**t not good mate!
Love the noise, they always sound like they running t/bodies
i would have thought they would have a better top end, more aerodynamic
Just changed from a mk4 astra turbo mate. Can be had for a shade over £2000 now. Although not a good one i'll admit.
30 mpg all day long (till you press the right pedal)
7 seconds to 60
comfortable for longer journeys
not too expensive to run although more goes wrong IMO with a turbo engine.
Still the clio beats them on value alone though. So a little bit out of its league.
30 mpg all day long (till you press the right pedal)
7 seconds to 60
comfortable for longer journeys
not too expensive to run although more goes wrong IMO with a turbo engine.
Still the clio beats them on value alone though. So a little bit out of its league.
Subaru Impreza P1
He only did 2 F1 Grand Prix's both of which he didnt finish.
black gold 182
:nono:
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