Standalone ECU and ITB users / knowledgeable chaps-info needed

[Cro]

Been asked for advice from a mate but certainly isn't something I know too much about. So he has a couple of questions for the cliosport gurus:

ECU

- Whats are peoples opinions on the best value for money/ user/ installer friendly standalone? Omex seems to certainly be the most popular for clios.

- If a used one is bought from a clio or another car, is a new race loom straight plug and play or still need wired in and where can these be had?

- Can maps be loaded using the software by the user (i.e if a base map was sent by rstuning etc) or is it just .cal files?

ITB

- Aside from the tb's / manifold / injectors etc what new sensors are needed it any?
- How hard is it to change to cable throttle?
- Has anyone preferences as to the use of 1*2/ 197 / 225 / or peco injectors?

The help as always is greatly appreciated :approve:

 

[hissingsid]

Think before adive on ecu, injectors etc need to know more about what spec your engine is.

 

[Cro]

Pm'd you hissingsid

 

[Cro]

Wee bump

 

[sideways danny]

Been asked for advice from a mate but certainly isn't something I know too much about. So he has a couple of questions for the cliosport gurus:

ECU

- Whats are peoples opinions on the best value for money/ user/ installer friendly standalone? Omex seems to certainly be the most popular for clios.

Certainly the best support for a clio (and general techical support for the software and configuration)

- If a used one is bought from a clio or another car, is a new race loom straight plug and play or still need wired in and where can these be had?

There's a clio specific Omex loom that is VERY simple to fit, but is part of a kit

- Can maps be loaded using the software by the user (i.e if a base map was sent by rstuning etc) or is it just .cal files?
It's a very different system, Omex can give you a startup map (or a well developed kit map if you buy a new kit)

ITB

- Aside from the tb's / manifold / injectors etc what new sensors are needed it any?
- How hard is it to change to cable throttle?
- Has anyone preferences as to the use of 1*2/ 197 / 225 / or peco injectors?

The help as always is greatly appreciated :approve:

It's honestly cheaper to just buy a full kit, you get every sensor, bracket, p-clip, and bolt you need for the entire job, and a full set of instructions AND a good map for no extra cost.

Injectors, standard ones will be fine until you raise compression most of the time 172/182 uses pico 042 as standard

 

[Cro]

Cheers Danny, so the clio specific loom can't be bought seperately?

 

[sideways danny]

Cheers Danny, so the clio specific loom can't be bought seperately?

not last time i heard, but call the office. I dont deal with sales etc generally

 

[Cro]

No problem, will do

 

[Cro]

What is the story with sensors, are there extra ones needed?

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'd speak to emerald if you fancy some DIY work

 

[Cro]

Cheers fred will do, any idea how user friendly they are to map?

 

[Fred@BTM]

well i'm sure if you spoke nicley to the chap on here who runs an emerald he might sell you a copy of his map

if not they will be able to send you a base map

 

[Mark One]

go for Emerald or Omex 600. Very little to choose between them.
Loom - Could speak to wizard race looms in northampton if you want a really nice job, depends where your mate is based.
Maps are easily loaded using software specific to ECU (free from websites)

If it's for a clio, speak to GDI Omex directly. They'll do you the works.

 

[Cro]

Now that's what i'm talking about Fred!!! Can you pm me who it is?
Cheers Mark, good advice there about the loom!

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'll have to dig out his forum name, the irish boys love the emerald stuff!

 

[activ]

The standard 182/172 injectors 042 give the wrong spray patten
if used with ITB ,as you can see on this link. They do work but not
well. Use 043. + Emerald ECU.

http://www.mmcompsys.com/download_zone/4_fuel_parts/pico_spray_01.pdf

 

[Cro]

Are you running Emerald activ?

 

[activ]

Oh yes,

 

[Cro]

Mmmmm yummy!! What kind of bodies are they? and did you DIY?

 

[Dan R]

Cheers fred will do, any idea how user friendly they are to map?

Why mess around so much?? Buy the Omex kit and its all done for you and u havent got any stress then?? Makes no sense to me cos in the end it will probably end up costing you more doing it any other way.

 

[stan*]

Ive got Emerald maps if needed...

 

[Fred@BTM]

Why mess around so much?? Buy the Omex kit and its all done for you and u havent got any stress then?? Makes no sense to me cos in the end it will probably end up costing you more doing it any other way.

could work out cheaper too remember

 

[Icarus]

And I've got Pectel maps (SQ6/M and T2) if you win the lottery tomorrow night

Cheers
M

 

[activ]

At Power Direct to head ITB. Made just for the F4R engine.
AT are working on a kit for the Clio.

http://atpowershop.co.uk/catalog/renault-throttle-body-assembly-direct-head-p-91.html

 

[Cro]

Nice, what length trumpet are you running and have you had it roaded?
Dan I think the idea is to get it done as cost effective as possible and the fact that he already has some bodies to go on.

 

[Dan R]

could work out cheaper too remember

Is all the stress etc really worth it for a couple hundred quid max!

 

[Dan R]

Nice, what length trumpet are you running and have you had it roaded?
Dan I think the idea is to get it done as cost effective as possible and the fact that he already has some bodies to go on.

Just buy the rest of the kit then from omex and bolt it all on. job done

 

[Fred@BTM]

Is all the stress etc really worth it for a couple hundred quid max!

its called a challenge, bolt bits on is all well and good but also incredibly boring! DIY is what its all about, check out forum member "activ" thats a tidy job!

 

[Dan R]

its called a challenge, bolt bits on is all well and good but also incredibly boring! DIY is what its all about, check out forum member "activ" thats a tidy job!

can see what u mean if thats what ur lookin for

 

[fmp_]

Fred is a challenge lover!

check out his 225/Velsatis Turbo clio and his T/B'ed V6!