steering rack 182 & 182FF difference?

[joe81]

Is there a difference in the racks?

the reason being i have just changed mine with one out of a 182, and i've had to wind the track rod ends out a fair old bit

please tell me this is not so, and that all 172 - 182ff racks are the same:dead:

i ain't goin through te pain of lyin on my back on a cold concrete garage floor t do it again.

its tracked up some where near righ, gunna take it to ATS bu i'm sure i have wound the rod ends nearly as far as they ought to go.

need some deffo answers asap

 

[joe81]

just to clarify, my car is a 182ff, fitted a standard 182 rack

 

[DrR]

I'm pretty sure the cups have shorter steering ratios, don't know about the cup packed though.

 

[Henry]

may be wrong but i thought they were all the same lock-to-lock (is it 2.7 turns?), but that there are four different manufacturers (TRW, SMI, can't remember others - Fred posted a list of the part numbers a while ago)

i don't know how those four racks differ

feel your pain if it's got to come off again - worst of the small number of jobs i've had to do to mine

 

[ForceIndia]

I've not heard of them being quicker on the cups.

 

[Henry]

here it is: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=418805&highlight=smi+trw

maybe you can get away with changing the track rods?

 

[joe81]

i know its deffo a 182 rack, but if this is so then i shouldn't have needed to wind the track rod ends out as much as i have, in theory it should have been perfect, had to wind each end out over half an inch

surely this ain't right.

I might just be being paronoid, i put one in a meriva a while back and some fekka sold me a corsa sterring rack, looked exactly the same and fit perfectly but the rods where just a little longer:dead:, nightmare job

 

[pip.]

Considering how much car companies love generic parts, I would expect all MK2 racks to be the same.

 

[joe81]

here it is: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=418805&highlight=smi+trw

maybe you can get away with changing the track rods?

cheers Henry, gunna get back under it and have a look for the serial numbers, i did think about changing the track rods originally and leave the existing rack in place as one rod was bent, just couldn't get it out, and by god how hard i tried.


any suggestions on this?

thanks in advance

 

[Henry]

are the hubs further out on some?
could be why there appear to be different length track rods
ed. timing error. not sure how you'd go about attacking a stubborn track rod

 

[sideways danny]

are the hubs further out on some?
could be why there appear to be different length track rods
ed. timing error. not sure how you'd go about attacking a stubborn track rod

this

cup pack includes different hubs for a wider track

 

[clioruss]

the cup also has different mout holes for the hubs, easy to spot a cup to a standard when you look at the holes. 172 and non cup have 54mm centres on the suspension legs. the cup and cup pack & trophy have 60mm centres.